Asante Samuel is the GOAT, Melt down complete...

7sinVegas7 · 03-25-2025, 01:23 PM

Who's following this melt down. Brother thinks he's Prime and needs a gold jacket. Not happen' partner.

Dude was nice as I remember, but not what Prime put up.

CTEspn is real.

Catch up here: "YOU'RE NOT PRIME:" Unc FIRES BACK at Asante Samuel

Get ready to laugh your asses off.

Have fun.

Stifle · 03-26-2025, 01:16 PM

I was laughing until I added the Post Season into the equation then it was a wake-up call. Samuels was a beast in the Post Season, ALL TIME Leader : INT YARDS, TD’s W/4 !, Pass Deflections.

Let’s add up the totals and his numbers become much closer than many would realize. Samuels was a far superior post season performer. I still believe Deion is better but Samuels dominated in the playoffs.

Both with 58 INT’s, Samuels 10 INT TD’s, Sanders 9, Samuels INT YDS is over 950 while Sanders is 1,400,

Bosoxfan5990 · 03-26-2025, 01:46 PM

If Samuel had one more postseason interception, he'd have 1 more championship too

Stifle · 03-26-2025, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

If Samuel had one more postseason interception, he'd have 1 more championship too

Bo - just stating facts. Samuels was a huge playmaker in the post season. That Lynn Swann & T. Davis were as well, facts.

Siberian13 · 03-26-2025, 04:22 PM

Who had the melt down? The OP or someone else. It’s all confusing

Seahawks fan · 03-26-2025, 04:27 PM

I will just say that collectively the 2003 CB class is one of the best of all time. Tons of longevity and solid stats.

boxbuster7 · 03-26-2025, 07:24 PM

I think the OP is having a meltdown

Stifle · 03-26-2025, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

I will just say that collectively the 2003 CB class is one of the best of all time. Tons of longevity and solid stats.

Great point and I agree.

CardClub2Elect · 03-27-2025, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

If Samuel had one more postseason interception, he'd have 1 more championship too

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

If Samuel had one more postseason interception, he'd have 1 more championship too

I always thought he caught way too much flak for that play against the Giants. In real time it did look like it went right through his hands. In replay and it's tough to find really good video but to me it looked to go right off the ends of finger tips, with his finger never being over the top half of the ball. It was a weird play as it was almost like a jump ball so I guess you could argue he mistimed his jump but it wasn't some bunny of a catch. Elite wide receivers are probably not making that catch (if they are getting the same amount of finger/hand contact on the ball). Just my opinion. If anyone has a link to a high quality video of the play, I'd love to see it.

Bosoxfan5990 · 03-27-2025, 08:20 AM

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I always thought he caught way too much flak for that play against the Giants. In real time it did look like it went right through his hands. In replay and it's tough to find really good video but to me it looked to go right off the ends of finger tips, with his finger never being over the top half of the ball. It was a weird play as it was almost like a jump ball so I guess you could argue he mistimed his jump but it wasn't some bunny of a catch. Elite wide receivers are probably not making that catch (if they are getting the same amount of finger/hand contact on the ball). Just my opinion. If anyone has a link to a high quality video of the play, I'd love to see it.

I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

I thought he was incredible CB and he was one of my favorite Patriots of that era.

CardClub2Elect · 03-27-2025, 08:35 AM

Yeah, I figured as much. Honestly that play was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread title. I think people were just really frustrated with losing the perfect season and that was the last big "missed" play of the game and the game would have been over had he made it.

As far as him vs. Deion. Judging players in different eras is always tough. I was a kid when Deion was in his prime and I will admit that I didn't really like him. I don't remember much about his big game/playoff performances. Samuel was definitely a very good high pressure performer.

CardClub2Elect · 03-27-2025, 08:36 AM

Now, Welker's drop against the Giants in 2011, not a perfect pass but that was a really bad one, more so given how good of a receiver Welker was.

7sinVegas7 · 03-27-2025, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Who had the melt down? The OP or someone else. It’s all confusing

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I think the OP is having a meltdown

Chill with the personal attacks. Go read the rules because your both breaking them.

IpcSteveYoung · 03-27-2025, 11:43 AM

duwal · 03-27-2025, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 7sinVegas7

Chill with the personal attacks. Go read the rules because your both breaking them.

nope, nope they are not

7sinVegas7 · 03-27-2025, 12:33 PM

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nope, nope they are not

Read.

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Bosoxfan5990 · 03-27-2025, 01:06 PM

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Read.

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You're facing "aggressive pressure or intimidation?"

boxbuster7 · 03-27-2025, 01:14 PM

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Read.

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bro...don't be so soft. are you part of the tik tok generation?

Jazz Chisholm · 03-27-2025, 02:39 PM

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bro...don't be so soft. are you part of the tik tok generation?

He’s also a self-professed alpha bro, which makes this infinitely more hilarious

TimBuckTwo · 03-27-2025, 02:44 PM

Umm, I have say no on the AS assertion. In a soft nurturing way.

Poorboy · 03-27-2025, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazz Chisholm

He’s also a self-professed alpha bro, which makes this infinitely more hilarious

he also loves to tell you what you feel and think
see ot foreman thread

JosieD · 03-28-2025, 04:16 PM

I loved when he played for the Eagles. He lead the league in interception one of the years.

starfox · 03-29-2025, 01:58 AM

This is all anyone needs to see. When you compare the two, there's just no comparison. I recognize that Samuel stepped his game up in the postseason, but he's still not close to Deion.
Just ask the Cowboys and 49ers what he meant to their respective defenses in 94 and 95. And we know Samuel is nowhere near the athlete Deion is. Should I explain why? Like Shannon Sharpe mentioned: Samuel wouldn't even be mentioned in the top ten if you mention the all-time corners.

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slyguy · 03-29-2025, 07:48 PM

Asante is fringe HOF... this kinda stuff will prob have him waiting a few more years. If he gets in...I'd say was 60% yes 40% no (needs weak years to have a finalist shot), now maybe 40/60?

Stifle · 03-29-2025, 08:01 PM

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This is all anyone needs to see. When you compare the two, there's just no comparison. I recognize that Samuel stepped his game up in the postseason, but he's still not close to Deion.
Just ask the Cowboys and 49ers what he meant to their respective defenses in 94 and 95. And we know Samuel is nowhere near the athlete Deion is. Should I explain why? Like Shannon Sharpe mentioned: Samuel wouldn't even be mentioned in the top ten if you mention the all-time corners.

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I agree that I wouldn’t have Samuel as a Top 10. I would select Ty Law and Mike Haynes as the best Patriots corners ever. As for stats, The Playoffs are when you need guys to step up and Samuel did that and more. I would take Samuel as a Post Season top 5 over Sanders!

03-25-2025, 01:23 PM	#1
7sinVegas7 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,753	Asante Samuel is the GOAT, Melt down complete... Who's following this melt down. Brother thinks he's Prime and needs a gold jacket. Not happen' partner. Dude was nice as I remember, but not what Prime put up. CTEspn is real. Catch up here: "YOU'RE NOT PRIME:" Unc FIRES BACK at Asante Samuel Get ready to laugh your asses off. Have fun.

03-26-2025, 01:16 PM	#2
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,216 Stifle	I was laughing until I added the Post Season into the equation then it was a wake-up call. Samuels was a beast in the Post Season, ALL TIME Leader : INT YARDS, TD’s W/4 !, Pass Deflections. Let’s add up the totals and his numbers become much closer than many would realize. Samuels was a far superior post season performer. I still believe Deion is better but Samuels dominated in the playoffs. Both with 58 INT’s, Samuels 10 INT TD’s, Sanders 9, Samuels INT YDS is over 950 while Sanders is 1,400, Last edited by Stifle; 03-26-2025 at 01:22 PM.

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03-27-2025, 08:35 AM	#11
CardClub2Elect Member Join Date: Feb 2025 Location: New England Posts: 48	Yeah, I figured as much. Honestly that play was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread title. I think people were just really frustrated with losing the perfect season and that was the last big "missed" play of the game and the game would have been over had he made it. As far as him vs. Deion. Judging players in different eras is always tough. I was a kid when Deion was in his prime and I will admit that I didn't really like him. I don't remember much about his big game/playoff performances. Samuel was definitely a very good high pressure performer.

03-27-2025, 08:36 AM	#12
CardClub2Elect Member Join Date: Feb 2025 Location: New England Posts: 48	Now, Welker's drop against the Giants in 2011, not a perfect pass but that was a really bad one, more so given how good of a receiver Welker was.

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03-27-2025, 02:44 PM	#20
TimBuckTwo Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,962	Umm, I have say no on the AS assertion. In a soft nurturing way.

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03-29-2025, 01:58 AM	#23
starfox Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,515 I don't have one at the moment, but plan to. I don't have one of these either, but we shall see.	This is all anyone needs to see. When you compare the two, there's just no comparison. I recognize that Samuel stepped his game up in the postseason, but he's still not close to Deion. Just ask the Cowboys and 49ers what he meant to their respective defenses in 94 and 95. And we know Samuel is nowhere near the athlete Deion is. Should I explain why? Like Shannon Sharpe mentioned: Samuel wouldn't even be mentioned in the top ten if you mention the all-time corners. Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk Last edited by starfox; 03-29-2025 at 09:26 AM.

03-29-2025, 07:48 PM	#24
slyguy Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jan 2025 Location: SW USA Posts: 976	Asante is fringe HOF... this kinda stuff will prob have him waiting a few more years. If he gets in...I'd say was 60% yes 40% no (needs weak years to have a finalist shot), now maybe 40/60? __________________ "The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never be sure that they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln