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Old 04-22-2025, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default Panini just Announced New Patrick Mahomes Exclusive Auto Contract

What's going on behind the scenes at Panini that we don't know about? A bunch of big name exclusive deals recently but non bigger than this. Still trying to get all the details, it may not be exclusive but he will definitely have autos in 2025 Panini product.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/629...-cards-panini/
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Old 04-22-2025, 11:38 AM   #2
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What's going on behind the scenes at Panini that we don't know about? A bunch of big names exclusive deals recently but non bigger than this. Still trying to get all the details, it may not be exclusive but he will definitely have autos in 2025 Panini product.
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Old 04-22-2025, 11:44 AM   #3
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Here's a link on Panini's official site that includes the YT vid link at the bottom of the announcement.

https://blog.paniniamerica.net/panin...d-partnership/


Noticed that Paddy had autos in recent Leaf products as well, but highly doubt he'll be going back to his original "Patel Mel" sig anytime soon...
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Old 04-22-2025, 11:54 AM   #4
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Panini has to have some kind of strategy for the licensing at this point, there's no way they'd be able to lock down all these guys otherwise
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Old 04-22-2025, 01:06 PM   #5
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How does this mean anything? Panini has the license for 2025 NFL cards, all players.

They have the NFLPA termination thing, but that doesn't stop them. (clearly)

...still good to see Mahomes autos. As a guy who has a few, I want a few more... don't think it'll devalue my 2017, 2020, etc ones.
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Old 04-22-2025, 01:14 PM   #6
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So... there might be 500 Mahomes autographs thrown in across their entire 115 NFL products and 87 trillion parallels, maybe?
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He would still need to win another Super Bowl in his career for this to matter.
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Old 04-22-2025, 02:04 PM   #8
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He would still need to win another Super Bowl in his career for this to matter.
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Old 04-22-2025, 03:41 PM   #9
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Not if he has to play the Eagles again.

Maybe he'll put up more than 27 yards of offense and 2 INTs in the first half next time?
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Not if he has to play the Eagles again.

Maybe he'll put up more than 27 yards of offense and 2 INTs in the first half next time?
You are correct. He is a terrible American football player.
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Old 04-22-2025, 04:24 PM   #11
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He would still need to win another Super Bowl in his career for this to matter.
True, seems doubtful now. Dudes turning 30 this year. Ah well
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Old 04-22-2025, 07:23 PM   #12
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So... there might be 500 Mahomes autographs thrown in across their entire 115 NFL products and 87 trillion parallels, maybe?
It'll probably be more like half that, yeah.
It's basically just a sell point to say there are some Mahomes autos in the set (raises price of those boxe$).
Insanely low % chances of his auto, even with hobby boxes of primo Panini sets.

In 2020, it was maybe 30 total Mahoes auto cards in Panini Black (shadow ink /10, /5, /3, a few other /3 capstone, a couple 1/1, etc). There were about the same amount in Flawless, Immac, NT. Very, very few in mid sets (Phoenix, Select, etc. Prizm had almost 100 total with parallels, but just tons and tons of packs.

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He would still need to win another Super Bowl in his career for this to matter.
Lol, welp... he's been in the SB 5/7 years he's started and been in AFC champ game 7/7 years so far.

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He will
Yeah, I'd think that'd probably be +3000 or more to say he would not win another SB in his career... if there's anywhere dumb enough to offer that bet, lol.

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Old 04-22-2025, 07:37 PM   #13
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The word exclusive was not in the Panini announcement in regards to Mahomes.

It's just an announcement to say his ink is coming back.
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Old 04-22-2025, 07:40 PM   #14
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It's a win for collectors... No one wants Topps because they aren't licensed but Topps still wants high prices so they pimp out the latest rookie autos in mass quantities and start putting Brady autos in every sport/product.

Next year No One will want Panini for the same reason but they will have the rookie autos people want and they will pump them out in mass quantities along with Mahomes autos in every sport/product.

Basically just pumps more autos out there to get your player cheaper and the group breakers pay for it. Also makes the older cards that had integrity/game used of those players worth alot more.

Keep the hilarity/news coming.
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Old 04-22-2025, 08:07 PM   #15
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It’s a smart move by Panini and win for consumers. They have now locked in the top active veteran football player and two of the top rookies in the draft class for the final year of their licensed product. Panini makes more money and consumers get autos on licensed products with team logos

I think the other key motive in this move by Panini is to bring Topps back to the table for an M&A transaction. They are showing that they will be a thorn in the side of Topps for the foreseeable future and will likely continue to ink these players and take away demand in Topps product releases once the license expires.


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It'll probably be more like half that, yeah.
It's basically just a sell point to say there are some Mahomes autos in the set (raises price of those boxe$).
Insanely low % chances of his auto, even with hobby boxes of primo Panini sets.

In 2020, it was maybe 30 total Mahoes auto cards in Panini Black (shadow ink /10, /5, /3, a few other /3 capstone, a couple 1/1, etc). There were about the same amount in Flawless, Immac, NT. Very, very few in mid sets (Phoenix, Select, etc. Prizm had almost 100 total with parallels, but just tons and tons of packs.

Lol, welp... he's been in the SB 5/7 years he's started and been in AFC champ game 7/7 years so far.

Yeah, I'd think that'd probably be +3000 or more to say he would not win another SB in his career... if there's anywhere dumb enough to offer that bet, lol.
I'll take that bet, put your money where your mouth is
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Yeah, I'd think that'd probably be +3000 or more to say he would not win another SB in his career... if there's anywhere dumb enough to offer that bet, lol.
Vegas knows the Chiefs aren’t going to be as good this year as they have been the last 5 years. The odds for KC to win SB 60 are +850 - and dropping fast. That gives an implied chance of roughly 12% that KC wins the Super Bowl this year.

If we extrapolate that to mean KC has a 12% chance of winning the Super Bowl in any given future season, and generously assume Mahomes has 7 years left, then his chances of winning another Super Bowl at some point is roughly 60%.

After factoring in the juice, that implies a line of roughly -160 to bet he wins another one and +140 if you bet he doesn’t win another one.

Your +3000 line is suicidal.

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Old 04-23-2025, 08:28 AM   #18
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I'll take that bet, put your money where your mouth is
LOL

LOL

ROFLMAO

Should we discuss your betting history here? In particular your history of failing to honor lost bets against Mahomes?
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Not if he has to play the Eagles again.

Maybe he'll put up more than 27 yards of offense and 2 INTs in the first half next time?
Congrats on your 50% win rate against in Super Bowls against Mahomes.

Oh I see your team won 1 Super Bowl this decade. Must feel good. Wow congrats man.

Yeah so anyway my team has 3.
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Post of the MF year................this is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while
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Old 04-23-2025, 08:58 AM   #21
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On topic, good for Panini. A neccessary counter move to the Fanatics rookie deals.

Looking forward to the singles hitting. Hope they come strong with ON CARD, good designs, good photos, cool themes that celebrate his accomplishments.

Will provide a fitting end to the Panini era as he is the far and away the most iconic player to have Panini RCs.

Edit to add: I wouldn't hate a series of buyback autos.

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Vegas knows the Chiefs aren’t going to be as good this year as they have been the last 5 years. The odds for KC to win SB 60 are +850 - and dropping fast. That gives an implied chance of roughly 12% that KC wins the Super Bowl this year.

If we extrapolate that to mean KC has a 12% chance of winning the Super Bowl in any given future season, and generously assume Mahomes has 7 years left, then his chances of winning another Super Bowl at some point is roughly 60%.

After factoring in the juice, that implies a line of roughly -160 to bet he wins another one and +140 if you bet he doesn’t win another one.

Your +3000 line is suicidal.
Why would Mahomes retire at 36?
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Vegas knows the Chiefs aren’t going to be as good this year as they have been the last 5 years. The odds for KC to win SB 60 are +850 - and dropping fast. That gives an implied chance of roughly 12% that KC wins the Super Bowl this year.

If we extrapolate that to mean KC has a 12% chance of winning the Super Bowl in any given future season, and generously assume Mahomes has 7 years left, then his chances of winning another Super Bowl at some point is roughly 60%.

After factoring in the juice, that implies a line of roughly -160 to bet he wins another one and +140 if you bet he doesn’t win another one.

Your +3000 line is suicidal.
Okay, I wasn't sure if you were trolling before, but yeah, you've left reality. "Generously assume he has 7 years left" LMAO
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Why would Mahomes retire at 36?
It's all part of the wishcasted mythology they've built in their minds.

"Mahomes will retire early because he's a mobile QB" ...despite guys like Elway, Rodgers, Young thriving into very late 30s in a more punishing era.

"Mahomes will be done without Reid" ...despite multiple prominent examples, notably Manning and Brady, having late career success with other coaches

"Mahomes statistical down years prove he is on a permanent downtrend" ...despite down years being common, OL/WR issues providing an Occam's razor explanation and turning up in the playoffs

"Getting blown out in the Super Bowl means it's all over" ..even though the KC dynasty has already come back to win 2 SBs after a blowout SB loss.

There's no point in attempting rational conversation about the actual likelihood of it all. They want it to be true so badly they've all becomes articles of faith for Mahomes haterdom. Just gonna have to keep receipts and let it play out.
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Okay, I wasn't sure if you were trolling before, but yeah, you've left reality. "Generously assume he has 7 years left" LMAO
Assuming he plays to age 37 at his current level is indeed very generous.
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"Mahomes will retire early because he's a mobile QB" ...despite guys like Elway, Rodgers, Young thriving into very late 30s in a more punishing era.
Retiring at age 37 is hardly "retiring early". That is a generous assumption for a QB that he will make it that far. Just because Brady made it look easy to play beyond that doesn't mean anyone else can come along and do the same thing.

Were your examples supposed to disprove my point? John Elway played to age 38, and clearly lost a step at the end. Steve Young played to age 38, but was a backup for most of his 20's. He was 30 before he became a full time starter, so there was far far less wear and tear on his body than Mahomes has at the same age.

I honestly didn't think people would get so triggered over my suggestion that a QB will play to age 37. Any play can be a player's last in the NFL. Just casually assigning 7 more years for a QB 2 games away from being 30 is indeed generous.

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