Why is this card OC?

bonds0128 · 06-29-2025, 12:35 PM

Why is the first card considered Off Center and the 2nd one is not?

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mjohnatgt · 06-29-2025, 03:13 PM

A couple of reasons or none at all.

1) Left to right centering is more obvious and distracting to the naked eye (how most card are graded) than top to bottom centering.
2) They were graded at different times by different graders who both made a judgment call.

Since both are 9s and are over 60/40 off-centered in one direction, they should both have been graded as 9(OC) at the time or straight 8s if the off-centeredness is less than 65/35.

bonds0128 · 06-29-2025, 04:28 PM

Thanks for your response. That still doesn't make sense. This card here is not the opc version and graded a little later and looks a little more off center left to right.

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...7624767189.jpg

mjohnatgt · 06-29-2025, 04:32 PM

Important point to learn: PSA IS WILDLY INCONSISTENT IN THEIR GRADING. Trying to make sense of it will drive you insane.

For example, there have been PSA 7s with pinholes that weren't detected by PSA. They would have gotten 1 or 2s if they had been spotted.

There was a PSA 2 that was cracked out and then graded a PSA 7 later.

There are PSA 6s that were cracked out and later got 10s.

Do not expect anything but more questions if you're trying to understand PSA grading.

hxcmilkshake · 06-29-2025, 05:10 PM

You can't really tell online.

But beyond that there's a crapton of inconsistencies.

Make your peace with it and buy what makes you happy.

If you're buying to flip, and/or crack/resubmit, you'll drive yourself positively mad.

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RufussCkingston · 06-30-2025, 02:26 PM

Possibly the back is way off center, you have a pic of the back?

inaka · 06-30-2025, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

Important point to learn: PSA IS WILDLY INCONSISTENT IN THEIR GRADING. Trying to make sense of it will drive you insane.

For example, there have been PSA 7s with pinholes that weren't detected by PSA. They would have gotten 1 or 2s if they had been spotted.

There was a PSA 2 that was cracked out and then graded a PSA 7 later.

There are PSA 6s that were cracked out and later got 10s.

Do not expect anything but more questions if you're trying to understand PSA grading.

This is the correct answer.

dictoresno · 07-02-2025, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bonds0128

Why is the first card considered Off Center and the 2nd one is not?

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...2132761783.jpg

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...0527234911.jpg

honestly, the second one has much better appeal from the L/R centering even though they are both slightly diamond cut and the lower border on both show it.

thats why id imagine the second card, which is notoriously off center to begin with given the set, is still better than the first.

PLB9eight · 07-02-2025, 06:47 AM

At this point all one can hope for is that they didn’t fold it to fit in a’48 Bowman holder because it was what was nearest to them.

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06-29-2025, 12:35 PM	#1
bonds0128 Member Join Date: Jun 2025 Posts: 2	Why is this card OC? Why is the first card considered Off Center and the 2nd one is not? https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...2132761783.jpg https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...0527234911.jpg

06-29-2025, 04:32 PM	#4
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,471 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Important point to learn: PSA IS WILDLY INCONSISTENT IN THEIR GRADING. Trying to make sense of it will drive you insane. For example, there have been PSA 7s with pinholes that weren't detected by PSA. They would have gotten 1 or 2s if they had been spotted. There was a PSA 2 that was cracked out and then graded a PSA 7 later. There are PSA 6s that were cracked out and later got 10s. Do not expect anything but more questions if you're trying to understand PSA grading. Last edited by mjohnatgt; 06-29-2025 at 04:37 PM.

06-29-2025, 03:13 PM	#2
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,471 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	A couple of reasons or none at all. 1) Left to right centering is more obvious and distracting to the naked eye (how most card are graded) than top to bottom centering. 2) They were graded at different times by different graders who both made a judgment call. Since both are 9s and are over 60/40 off-centered in one direction, they should both have been graded as 9(OC) at the time or straight 8s if the off-centeredness is less than 65/35.

06-29-2025, 04:28 PM	#3
bonds0128 Member Join Date: Jun 2025 Posts: 2	Thanks for your response. That still doesn't make sense. This card here is not the opc version and graded a little later and looks a little more off center left to right. https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...7624767189.jpg

06-29-2025, 05:10 PM	#5
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,166 hxcmilkshake	You can't really tell online. But beyond that there's a crapton of inconsistencies. Make your peace with it and buy what makes you happy. If you're buying to flip, and/or crack/resubmit, you'll drive yourself positively mad. Sent from my SM-S928U using Tapatalk

06-30-2025, 02:26 PM	#6
RufussCkingston Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Uranus Posts: 1,269	Possibly the back is way off center, you have a pic of the back?

07-02-2025, 06:47 AM	#9
PLB9eight Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,226	At this point all one can hope for is that they didn’t fold it to fit in a’48 Bowman holder because it was what was nearest to them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk