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Old 09-07-2025, 10:43 PM   #1
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Default The Never Too Early 2025 NFL MVP Thread

1. Allen
2. Rodgers
3. Herbert
4. Mayfield
5. Jackson









155. P. Mahomes
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Old 09-07-2025, 10:49 PM   #2
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1. Allen
2. Rodgers
3. Herbert
4. Mayfield
5. Jackson









155. P. Mahomes
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Old 09-07-2025, 10:50 PM   #3
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If Rodgers actually won an MVP that really would be crazy.

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Got LJax.


Doesn't turn the ball over. Highly favorable ROS.
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Old 09-07-2025, 11:09 PM   #5
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Got LJax.


Doesn't turn the ball over. Highly favorable ROS.
I wouldn't necessarily say favorable...but the Bills schedule is definitely ass lol
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Old 09-07-2025, 11:21 PM   #7
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I wouldn't necessarily say favorable...but the Bills schedule is definitely ass lol
Yeah they're probably neck and neck. Whole lotta Browns and no-d Bungholes for both.

I guess I'm giving Ljax the small nod here because if it's close I don't think they'll give it to JA b2b.
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Herbie!!
Harbaugh promised to make him a hall of famer!

MVP would be a great start!
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Harbaugh promised to make him a hall of famer!

MVP would be a great start!
Not sure if Harbaugh would know how to do this… has he ever coached or played with a HOF QB?
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Got LJax.


Doesn't turn the ball over. Highly favorable ROS.
Problem is, he has the NFL's #1 or #1A running back making life easy for him. That's why he didn't win it last year.
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I'm only here to make fun of the people who forget how it actually works and call it too early.....


And to remind everyone of the time a few years ago who proclaimed at the beginning of October that "The MVP is Tua's to lose!"
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Allen clearly has a leg up on MVP over Lamar at this point.

Lamar's numbers are going to be a lot better than Allen by a lot at this point.
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Problem is, he has the NFL's #1 or #1A running back making life easy for him. That's why he didn't win it last year.
I mean. Ridiculous 41:4 td:int ratio, 4k passing yards and 900 rushing.

That was all with Henry still going for 1900 and having the 2nd best season of his career.

Just 6 1st place votes out of winning it.


If there's any slow or regression in Henry's game, I like his chances even more. And even if there isn't, if Lamar repeats those numbers and it's anywhere close like it was last year...I think the b2b recency ant-bias is very real.
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allen over Lamar

he is just clutch in the key moments this season
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I mean. Ridiculous 41:4 td:int ratio, 4k passing yards and 900 rushing.

That was all with Henry still going for 1900 and having the 2nd best season of his career.

Just 6 1st place votes out of winning it.


If there's any slow or regression in Henry's game, I like his chances even more. And even if there isn't, if Lamar repeats those numbers and it's anywhere close like it was last year...I think the b2b recency ant-bias is very real.
I realize that and am sympathetic to his case. However, LJack was awarded 1st team All-Pro last year (aka, best QB), however, IMO, they did get the MVP correct. J. Allen was the most valuable to his team.
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I realize that and am sympathetic to his case. However, LJack was awarded 1st team All-Pro last year (aka, best QB), however, IMO, they did get the MVP correct. J. Allen was the most valuable to his team.
People seem to underestimate what having Derrick Henry does to make a quarterback's job easier.

1400 more yards and he's 10th all time in rushing. 2 more rushing TDs and he ties Walter Payton for 5th all time. With seemingly a lot of gas in the tank, it could be very soon that we all start talking about Derrick Henry among the all time great running backs.
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I mean. Ridiculous 41:4 td:int ratio, 4k passing yards and 900 rushing.

That was all with Henry still going for 1900 and having the 2nd best season of his career.

Just 6 1st place votes out of winning it.


If there's any slow or regression in Henry's game, I like his chances even more. And even if there isn't, if Lamar repeats those numbers and it's anywhere close like it was last year...I think the b2b recency ant-bias is very real.
Having Henry hurts Lamar chance not helping it. Even more if Henry balling out like he did last season
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I realize that and am sympathetic to his case. However, LJack was awarded 1st team All-Pro last year (aka, best QB), however, IMO, they did get the MVP correct. J. Allen was the most valuable to his team.
Oh yeah. I never in no way implied Josh didn't deserve it last year, because he did.

Only thing I stated was that, if the circumstances are anywhere similar to what they were in 2024 (and there's no one else in the equation), that I believe Lamar will get it this time around. Regardless what people want to think, voter fatigue exists and b2b mvp's are extremely difficult to obtain. The onus will be on Josh to widen the gap even more this year.

And yes, while he did win, Lamar still received 22 1st place votes to Josh's 27. Closer than a lot of people think.
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Having Henry hurts Lamar chance not helping it. Even more if Henry balling out like he did last season
Henry's 1900 yards didn't stop Lamar from receiving 22 1st place votes last year.

OKC having Jwill and one of the strongest supporting casts didn't stop SGA from winning.

That's such a played argument. Yes, Henry is tremendous and can only help Lamar as an individual talent, but Lamar still has to go out and execute and obtain the gaudy numbers.


FYI, Lamar only had less than a 10% boost in his rushing totals last year with Henry on board. His real strides came as a pocket passer, which has always traditionally been the biggest knock against him. He threw the ball as well as anyone last season, and his efficiency ranked him amongst the greats.
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Good chance Hurts is in the conversation by the end of the year.
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Henry's 1900 yards didn't stop Lamar from receiving 22 1st place votes last year.

OKC having Jwill and one of the strongest supporting casts didn't stop SGA from winning.

That's such a played argument. Yes, Henry is tremendous and can only help Lamar as an individual talent, but Lamar still has to go out and execute and obtain the gaudy numbers.


FYI, Lamar only had less than a 10% boost in his rushing totals last year with Henry on board. His real strides came as a pocket passer, which has always traditionally been the biggest knock against him. He threw the ball as well as anyone last season, and his efficiency ranked him amongst the greats.
Please don’t taint the football section with garbage nba stuff. Thanks.
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I'm guessing TuBerculosis12 received the same MVP pessism in '07 when 81 came to town.
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Henry's 1900 yards didn't stop Lamar from receiving 22 1st place votes last year.

OKC having Jwill and one of the strongest supporting casts didn't stop SGA from winning.

That's such a played argument. Yes, Henry is tremendous and can only help Lamar as an individual talent, but Lamar still has to go out and execute and obtain the gaudy numbers.


FYI, Lamar only had less than a 10% boost in his rushing totals last year with Henry on board. His real strides came as a pocket passer, which has always traditionally been the biggest knock against him. He threw the ball as well as anyone last season, and his efficiency ranked him amongst the greats.
Having Henry, and Saquon on the team change how defense played. It's also why Kobe couldn't get mvp when he had shaq
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Curry couldn't get mvp when he had KD too. MVP means value to the team, your value diminishes when yoi have another alpha in your team
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