eBay DSR question

alexlazarevich · 05-29-2011, 12:23 PM

I just received a low DSR for communication. I have no idea what I did wrong, and the buyer didn't tell me what I did to receive a low DSR. All feedback is positive, so I have no way of knowing why I got a low DSR.

I know for a fact that I had no low DSR's in communication this morning, and 1 feedback was left today, and now I have 1 low DSR in communication.

My question is this: does anyone know for a fact that low DSR's are added to your rating immediately as they are given? If so, then I know exactly who left the low DSR. However, I am under the impression that eBay can hold back low DSR's and doll them out randomly, so as to make them truly anonymous.

Does anyone know either way, for certain, how low DSR's are handed out? Immediately when given, or can they be handed out randomly thus hiding the person who gave them?

Thanks!

jacobbigshow · 05-29-2011, 12:28 PM

When you give feedback, there is a score of 1-5, some idiot probably gave you a 1 or a 2. If you get enough of those Ebay will stop you from selling or give you warnings, its totally gay, I got one of those warnings, and the next week I was a power seller????

go_steelers07 · 05-29-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobbigshow

When you give feedback, there is a score of 1-5, some idiot probably gave you a 1 or a 2. If you get enough of those Ebay will stop you from selling or give you warnings, its totally gay, I got one of those warnings, and the next week I was a power seller????

a rather long response that didn't even come close to aswering the question asked.

brianaz29 · 05-29-2011, 01:23 PM

I don't think that they are doing anything extraordinary to hide the DSR identities. There are a couple of guides on ebay that talk about how you can figure out who gave you low dsrs, which seem to hinge on it being chronological (given out immediately). Below are the links. Sorry to hear you got screwed; we had the same thing happen to us a couple months back.

eBay Guides - What Buyers Should Know About Feedback DSRs Stars

eBay Guides - DSR Are Not Anonymous How to Find It Out for Any Item

alexlazarevich · 05-29-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brianaz29

I don't think that they are doing anything extraordinary to hide the DSR identities. There are a couple of guides on ebay that talk about how you can figure out who gave you low dsrs, which seem to hinge on it being chronological (given out immediately). Below are the links. Sorry to hear you got screwed; we had the same thing happen to us a couple months back.

eBay Guides - What Buyers Should Know About Feedback DSRs Stars

eBay Guides - DSR Are Not Anonymous How to Find It Out for Any Item

That is IT! Thank you!

The two guides seem to suggest that DSR's are given chronologically, but are "...recorded according to their transaction dates instead of the dates that are left...". Even so, the guide in the second link gives you a way to find the exact transaction that has the low DSR, assuming you have some clue as to which one it is. You can generate reports with 10 transactions, put in the one you think has it, then remove it and add another, compare the results with a little math, and you have your answer.

Awesome, many thanks.

Screamer · 05-29-2011, 03:09 PM

Alex,

Please don't take this the wrong way but I see your threads about DSR and feedback all the time and I think you're putting to much effort into it. You can be the most perfect eBay seller and people are going to be a-holes about leaving proper responses. As long as you know you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, forget about the DSR bull cuz you can't do anything anyways

Just my opinion

BTW, eBay WILL NOT adjust a DSR rating, so when it's there, it's there forever

hhmag70 · 05-29-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Screamer

BTW, eBay WILL NOT adjust a DSR rating, so when it's there, it's there forever

Not 100% true. It is possible (but highly unlikely) to have a low DSR removed by proving that the person who left it also left positive feedback with no mention of the poor area of service. They will make it near impossible to have removed, but it can be and has beeen done in the past.

dreamweaver1984 · 05-29-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Screamer

Alex,

Please don't take this the wrong way but I see your threads about DSR and feedback all the time and I think you're putting to much effort into it. You can be the most perfect eBay seller and people are going to be a-holes about leaving proper responses. As long as you know you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, forget about the DSR bull cuz you can't do anything anyways

Just my opinion

BTW, eBay WILL NOT adjust a DSR rating, so when it's there, it's there forever

i had one guy who bought 10+ cards who left a low dsr on the communication, (fact is he never once contacted me about anything. i can only assume that he put a 1 because it was not needed??? anyway i contacted ebay and they reduced the # of dsr from 10 to 1, because it counted for 10 1s

alexlazarevich · 05-29-2011, 03:31 PM

Yeah, I know you are right Screamer. I take the ratings personally, which is the wrong way to think about it. I find myself having a hard time letting go of that personal connection. But I will have to.

And I know that losing the 20% on Final Value Fees is inevitable. But I have a plan: once I lose that 20% discount, then I'll start charging for shipping at cost, $1.75 per 2-3 oz. and then $0.17 for each oz above 3. That should help offset the loss of 20% on Final Value Fees.

37Jetson · 05-29-2011, 03:31 PM

Pass the Dutchie...I think you have taken on a little too much second hand smoke if you believe that Ebay is going to spend their valuable customer service time to remove a low DSR. This does not even happen in the land of Unicorns.

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Originally Posted by hhmag70

Not 100% true. It is possible (but highly unlikely) to have a low DSR removed by proving that the person who left it also left positive feedback with no mention of the poor area of service. They will make it near impossible to have removed, but it can be and has beeen done in the past.

Screamer · 05-29-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alexlazarevich

And I know that losing the 20% on Final Value Fees is inevitable. But I have a plan: once I lose that 20% discount, then I'll start charging for shipping at cost, $1.75 per 2-3 oz. and then $0.17 for each oz above 3. That should help offset the loss of 20% on Final Value Fees.

Sorry Alex... Didn't know you had the 20% discount. DSR is more important to you than me

go_steelers07 · 05-29-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 37Jetson

Pass the Dutchie..

fun song........ but it has nothing to do with drugs..... just so you know.

alexlazarevich · 05-29-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brianaz29

I don't think that they are doing anything extraordinary to hide the DSR identities. There are a couple of guides on ebay that talk about how you can figure out who gave you low dsrs, which seem to hinge on it being chronological (given out immediately). Below are the links. Sorry to hear you got screwed; we had the same thing happen to us a couple months back.

eBay Guides - What Buyers Should Know About Feedback DSRs Stars

eBay Guides - DSR Are Not Anonymous How to Find It Out for Any Item

Using the technique outline in the 2nd link (search by item #'s), I was able to determine exactly which buyer left the low DSR. And it's good I did that because I thought it was a different buyer than it turned out to be. Also, the low DSR did NOT appear in my feedback in chronological order, it was close, but off by a little bit which cause me to pin the low DSR on the wrong buyer.

The technique is pretty easy to use, but only works on single items. If you have an item that is actually sold in multiples, then the technique does not work, although the author of the document says there is a way to find that out as well.

Anyway, thanks again for the help, once again, this forum rules.

brianaz29 · 05-29-2011, 10:13 PM

Glad to help, and good to know moving forward, thanks for posting the follow up Alex.

I'm not sure why Ebay tries to put up a veil for this kind of information. As a seller the only way to know how to improve is to have transparent feedback. I think unfortunately, some people use the DSRs as a passive/agressive way to get at sellers, when all they really needed to do was communicate what they didn't like, so it could be fixed.

Anyway, ebay rant off. You obviously put a lot of effort in to being a responsible seller, so hopefully things work out.

05-29-2011, 12:23 PM	#1
alexlazarevich Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 4,038 alexlazarevich*cardboardaddict alexlazarevich	eBay DSR question I just received a low DSR for communication. I have no idea what I did wrong, and the buyer didn't tell me what I did to receive a low DSR. All feedback is positive, so I have no way of knowing why I got a low DSR. I know for a fact that I had no low DSR's in communication this morning, and 1 feedback was left today, and now I have 1 low DSR in communication. My question is this: does anyone know for a fact that low DSR's are added to your rating immediately as they are given? If so, then I know exactly who left the low DSR. However, I am under the impression that eBay can hold back low DSR's and doll them out randomly, so as to make them truly anonymous. Does anyone know either way, for certain, how low DSR's are handed out? Immediately when given, or can they be handed out randomly thus hiding the person who gave them? Thanks!

05-29-2011, 12:28 PM	#2
jacobbigshow Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 2,928 jacobbigshow Jacobbigshow	When you give feedback, there is a score of 1-5, some idiot probably gave you a 1 or a 2. If you get enough of those Ebay will stop you from selling or give you warnings, its totally gay, I got one of those warnings, and the next week I was a power seller???? __________________ checkoutmycards.com/Users/jacobbigshow

05-29-2011, 03:09 PM	#6
Screamer Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 7,283 drbaseball Screamer	Alex, Please don't take this the wrong way but I see your threads about DSR and feedback all the time and I think you're putting to much effort into it. You can be the most perfect eBay seller and people are going to be a-holes about leaving proper responses. As long as you know you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, forget about the DSR bull cuz you can't do anything anyways Just my opinion BTW, eBay WILL NOT adjust a DSR rating, so when it's there, it's there forever __________________ TRADING FOR: Bobby Witt Jr Nick Kurtz Buying: AUTO RESALE LOTS

05-29-2011, 03:31 PM	#9
alexlazarevich Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Champaign, Illinois Posts: 4,038 alexlazarevich*cardboardaddict alexlazarevich	Yeah, I know you are right Screamer. I take the ratings personally, which is the wrong way to think about it. I find myself having a hard time letting go of that personal connection. But I will have to. And I know that losing the 20% on Final Value Fees is inevitable. But I have a plan: once I lose that 20% discount, then I'll start charging for shipping at cost, $1.75 per 2-3 oz. and then $0.17 for each oz above 3. That should help offset the loss of 20% on Final Value Fees. Last edited by alexlazarevich; 05-29-2011 at 03:36 PM.

05-29-2011, 01:23 PM	#4
brianaz29 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 158	I don't think that they are doing anything extraordinary to hide the DSR identities. There are a couple of guides on ebay that talk about how you can figure out who gave you low dsrs, which seem to hinge on it being chronological (given out immediately). Below are the links. Sorry to hear you got screwed; we had the same thing happen to us a couple months back. eBay Guides - What Buyers Should Know About Feedback DSRs Stars eBay Guides - DSR Are Not Anonymous How to Find It Out for Any Item

05-29-2011, 10:13 PM	#14
brianaz29 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 158	Glad to help, and good to know moving forward, thanks for posting the follow up Alex. I'm not sure why Ebay tries to put up a veil for this kind of information. As a seller the only way to know how to improve is to have transparent feedback. I think unfortunately, some people use the DSRs as a passive/agressive way to get at sellers, when all they really needed to do was communicate what they didn't like, so it could be fixed. Anyway, ebay rant off. You obviously put a lot of effort in to being a responsible seller, so hopefully things work out.