Grading Question

j22187 · 11-27-2011, 08:30 AM

Was wondering about when you get an auto graded. If the auto goes from a nice bold mark to the pen getting light and then back dark, is that going to knock the grade down to a nine. Trying to figure out what gets a 10 and what gets a 9 when graded. Thanks for any input.

MrSnyder · 11-27-2011, 08:41 AM

From the BGS Site -

Grading Cards - BGS
Certified Autograph Cards

Beckett Grading Services will grade cards with "certified autographs". That is, cards issued by major manufacturers that carry additional design elements indicating the manufacturer has certified the autograph of the card. The autograph itself will not be authenticated, but will be given a separate numerical grade based on the quality of the ink signature.

In grading the autograph itself on a card, the key feature being examined is the production quality and clarity of the signature (and other after-market ink, such as hand serial-numbering or inscriptions). This does not take into account the legibility of the player's autograph; rather, it involves aspects such as bubbling, smearing, positioning/location, etc.

The autograph subgrade will stand alone and play no part in determining the overall grade. Generally speaking, autograph flaws will only deduct from the autograph grade. For example, a card that was signed and immediately smeared will get a lower grade on the autograph, but the surface will not be affected. An exception to this rule would be if the autograph flaw affects both the signature quality and the card itself; for instance, a signed cut that creases the surface and also smears the autograph. The best rule of thumb is that any flaws related to the actual ink of the autograph will normally be deducted from the autograph grade, while other flaws generally are taken into account on the surface grade. When the signature is on a sticker or cut, and the sticker/cut itself is creased (or torn, stained, etc.), this is taken into account in the surface grade. Excess glue bleeding onto the cut is also counted against surface. If the flaw also damages the autograph itself, both the surface and autograph grade may be lowered.

j22187 · 11-27-2011, 08:46 AM

Thanks for the info. Will take that as a yes it would downgrade it to a 9 on the auto then.

JDK16 · 11-27-2011, 09:40 AM

Usually any streakyness or auto running out of the auto area will cause a lower auto grade

11-27-2011, 08:30 AM	#1
j22187 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 246 j22187 j22187	Grading Question Was wondering about when you get an auto graded. If the auto goes from a nice bold mark to the pen getting light and then back dark, is that going to knock the grade down to a nine. Trying to figure out what gets a 10 and what gets a 9 when graded. Thanks for any input.

11-27-2011, 08:41 AM	#2
MrSnyder Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,032 mrsnyder	From the BGS Site - Grading Cards - BGS Certified Autograph Cards Beckett Grading Services will grade cards with "certified autographs". That is, cards issued by major manufacturers that carry additional design elements indicating the manufacturer has certified the autograph of the card. The autograph itself will not be authenticated, but will be given a separate numerical grade based on the quality of the ink signature. In grading the autograph itself on a card, the key feature being examined is the production quality and clarity of the signature (and other after-market ink, such as hand serial-numbering or inscriptions). This does not take into account the legibility of the player's autograph; rather, it involves aspects such as bubbling, smearing, positioning/location, etc. The autograph subgrade will stand alone and play no part in determining the overall grade. Generally speaking, autograph flaws will only deduct from the autograph grade. For example, a card that was signed and immediately smeared will get a lower grade on the autograph, but the surface will not be affected. An exception to this rule would be if the autograph flaw affects both the signature quality and the card itself; for instance, a signed cut that creases the surface and also smears the autograph. The best rule of thumb is that any flaws related to the actual ink of the autograph will normally be deducted from the autograph grade, while other flaws generally are taken into account on the surface grade. When the signature is on a sticker or cut, and the sticker/cut itself is creased (or torn, stained, etc.), this is taken into account in the surface grade. Excess glue bleeding onto the cut is also counted against surface. If the flaw also damages the autograph itself, both the surface and autograph grade may be lowered. __________________ Collecting Ozzie Smith and Football HOF autograph articles... GO Bears (Hershey)! "You want to drag me down, as if I even care." - Breaking Benjamin

11-27-2011, 09:40 AM	#4
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11-27-2011, 08:46 AM	#3
j22187 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 246 j22187 j22187	Thanks for the info. Will take that as a yes it would downgrade it to a 9 on the auto then.