What do you think THIS will end up selling for?

Bibbseat55 · 03-11-2012, 08:34 PM

Just came across it on eBay and thought the price was ridiculous...how far off do you think he is? FYI it's 23/99 in case you miss it

LEBRON JAMES 2003-04 EXQUISITE AUTO JERSEY # 23/99 *MIAMI HEAT* (3) COLOR PATCH | eBay

ebaycatdogoo · 03-11-2012, 09:08 PM

My guess is it probably won't sell, but if I was guessing I would say $23000

boxbust421 · 03-11-2012, 09:11 PM

I don't know where the market is right now but I'd hold it for the playoffs for sure. I can't believe it is raw as well. Possible just an attempt to see where the market is at right now or maybe someone is trying to hype the market. You never know anymore.

XARZY · 03-11-2012, 09:34 PM

card is probably slabbed. I agree he is testing the market

Orangejello727 · 03-11-2012, 09:56 PM

is it me or does the card look to be in rough shape? Idol, you seriously need to take better scans of your high end stash!!

ivbaseball06 · 03-11-2012, 11:01 PM

SHADY ALERT

This card did not grade well and the seller is trying to hide that in the auction. Here is the epic video of this guy's amazing LBJ collection. If you go to 11:30 you'll see the card in question, which he covers the grade up on. You can tell by the paper that's in the slab that it's at least a BGS 8 or below.

The VERY BEST LeBron James 2003 Autograph Collection! Exquisite!! #23 & 1/1 - YouTube

Looking at BGS Population Reports there are only 9 of these that have been under an 8.5. There are 3 of each 7.0, 7.5, or 8.0. So it's safe to say this card is between a 7.0 and an 8.0.

Since the seller says all of his auctions are NRMT-MT or better, it's probably safe to say it's a BGS 8. Anything below that is not NRMT-MT. Technically the seller is disclosing that it's an 8 or better, but still very shady for a very expensive card, especially with the purposely blurry pictures.

Cubs_rock21 · 03-11-2012, 11:07 PM

guy sounds like a creeper

XARZY · 03-11-2012, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivbaseball06

SHADY ALERT

This card did not grade well and the seller is trying to hide that in the auction. Here is the epic video of this guy's amazing LBJ collection. If you go to 11:30 you'll see the card in question, which he covers the grade up on. You can tell by the paper that's in the slab that it's at least a BGS 8 or below.

The VERY BEST LeBron James 2003 Autograph Collection! Exquisite!! #23 & 1/1 - YouTube

Looking at BGS Population Reports there are only 9 of these that have been under an 8.5. There are 3 of each 7.0, 7.5, or 8.0. So it's safe to say this card is between a 7.0 and an 8.0.

Since the seller says all of his auctions are NRMT-MT or better, it's probably safe to say it's a BGS 8. Anything below that is not NRMT-MT. Technically the seller is disclosing that it's an 8 or better, but still very shady for a very expensive card, especially with the purposely blurry pictures.

Who cares what the grade is when you have the jsy nmbrd Exquisite rc of Lebron..?

pingbling23 · 03-12-2012, 12:13 AM

that is a nice card either way, i asked him a question on his auction if it was graded or raw, well see if he replies.

houseofcards · 03-12-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by XARZY

Who cares what the grade is when you have the jsy nmbrd Exquisite rc of Lebron..?

exactly, screw the grade gimme the card.

mr_yoshi_san · 03-12-2012, 01:10 AM

LOL nice catch

Wonder what he will say when people refer him to that video of him covering up that slab. It's the same card serial #23 lol fail

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivbaseball06

SHADY ALERT

This card did not grade well and the seller is trying to hide that in the auction. Here is the epic video of this guy's amazing LBJ collection. If you go to 11:30 you'll see the card in question, which he covers the grade up on. You can tell by the paper that's in the slab that it's at least a BGS 8 or below.

The VERY BEST LeBron James 2003 Autograph Collection! Exquisite!! #23 & 1/1 - YouTube

Looking at BGS Population Reports there are only 9 of these that have been under an 8.5. There are 3 of each 7.0, 7.5, or 8.0. So it's safe to say this card is between a 7.0 and an 8.0.

Since the seller says all of his auctions are NRMT-MT or better, it's probably safe to say it's a BGS 8. Anything below that is not NRMT-MT. Technically the seller is disclosing that it's an 8 or better, but still very shady for a very expensive card, especially with the purposely blurry pictures.

blackbears86 · 03-12-2012, 08:47 AM

they guy in the video had gross creepy fingernails, but the cards were nice. Why cover up the grade? you have #23/99!!!!!!!

fullmetal · 03-12-2012, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by XARZY

Who cares what the grade is when you have the jsy nmbrd Exquisite rc of Lebron..?

Disagree. If I ran over the card with my car would you be willing to spend the same for said card?

SethMurphy · 03-12-2012, 09:07 AM

that is absolutely one of the ugliest Exquisite designs I have ever seen

Orangejello727 · 03-12-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmetal

Disagree. If I ran over the card with my car would you be willing to spend the same for said card?

Depends on the type of car you were driving when you ran it over

Bibbseat55 · 03-12-2012, 09:51 AM

Driving over the card with your car is VERY different than it being an 8 as opposed to a 9 or 9.5!! I mean c'mon...

fullmetal · 03-12-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bibbseat55

Driving over the card with your car is VERY different than it being an 8 as opposed to a 9 or 9.5!! I mean c'mon...

Okay. Would you pay the same for a BGS 8 Karl Malone RC as you would a BGS 9.5 Karl Malone RC?

Condition definitely comes into play. No matter the scarcity of an item, the better the condition the higher the commanding price.

fullmetal · 03-12-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Depends on the type of car you were driving when you ran it over

A brand new Fiat.

Orangejello727 · 03-12-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmetal

Okay. Would you pay the same for a BGS 8 Karl Malone RC as you would a BGS 9.5 Karl Malone RC?

Condition definitely comes into play. No matter the scarcity of an item, the better the condition the higher the commanding price.

The card is actually a BGS 7.5.

But without even looking at the BGS label, take a look at that scan. The card looks totally scuffed up in the black areas. THe edges look rough. If Im throwing 10K plus on card, Id definately put condition a top priority. While I understand the numbering is a big deal, in my opinion the condition should be even bigger priority with the $$ I would spending on it. I agree with Matt. Condition makes a big difference in the case of this card

dmogull · 03-12-2012, 10:31 AM

by the time his career is over, Lebron would have played the majority of his years as #6 and if he breaks and records or wins any championships it will be wearing #6, so the JSY# on this card means nothing to me....

Orangejello727 · 03-12-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dmogull

by the time his career is over, Lebron would have played the majority of his years as #6 and if he breaks and records or wins any championships it will be wearing #6, so the JSY# on this card means nothing to me....

Most people attribute Lebron to #23 than #6. Those who pay premiums for jersey numbered rookies also put an emphasis on having the players jersey number from that year as well as that depicited on the card itself.

You may not care for Jersey #ed cards, but there is no doubting a community of collector that will pay premiums and top dollar for jersey numbered cards. In this case, the #23 is more premium than #6 amongst those collectors.

dmogull · 03-12-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Most people attribute Lebron to #23 than #6. Those who pay premiums for jersey numbered rookies also put an emphasis on having the players jersey number from that year as well as that depicited on the card itself.

You may not care for Jersey #ed cards, but there is no doubting a community of collector that will pay premiums and top dollar for jersey numbered cards. In this case, the #23 is more premium than #6 amongst those collectors.

I'm not saying I don't care for JSY# cards, I am saying when Lebron's career is over and done with, he will have broken records and won championships (hopefully) with the Heat and wearing #6. Maybe right now, people still associate #23 with Lebron and that makes sense as he was in Cleveland for many years to start his career and has only been with the Heat for a couple, but when all is said and done, Lebron will be remembered as #6 and that is the JSY# they will retire. Which Exquisite rookie serial# will be more valuable at that time? #6.

Orangejello727 · 03-12-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dmogull

I'm not saying I don't care for JSY# cards, I am saying when Lebron's career is over and done with, he will have broken records and won championships (hopefully) with the Heat and wearing #6. Maybe right now, people still associate #23 with Lebron and that makes sense as he was in Cleveland for many years to start his career and has only been with the Heat for a couple, but when all is said and done, Lebron will be remembered as #6 and that is the JSY# they will retire. Which Exquisite rookie serial# will be more valuable at that time? #6.

No. His #23 will always be more prevelant than #6 when it comes to 03 Exquisite RAP. I cant tell you which one will sell for more, because I honestly dont know who is payinig what for whatever they want. Thats subjective.

Just look at the 03 Exquisite RAP. You tell me if 23 or 6 comes to mind. You also tell me if Cavs or Heat come to mine when you specfically look at that card. His Rc yr is Cavs and #23. It will always be that. Even after he wins championships and MVPs with the Heat, his rookie year will always have 23 and Cavs associated with it.

Ill take #23 / xxx over #6/xxx all day every day for Lebron Rookies from 2003.

forgiven1 · 03-12-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

No. His #23 will always be more prevelant than #6 when it comes to 03 Exquisite RAP. I cant tell you which one will sell for more, because I honestly dont know who is payinig what for whatever they want. Thats subjective.

Just look at the 03 Exquisite RAP. You tell me if 23 or 6 comes to mind. You also tell me if Cavs or Heat come to mine when you specfically look at that card. His Rc yr is Cavs and #23. It will always be that. Even after he wins championships and MVPs with the Heat, his rookie year will always have 23 and Cavs associated with it.

Ill take #23 / xxx over #6/xxx all day every day for Lebron Rookies from 2003.

i agree 100%!

sportzluvr1 · 03-12-2012, 02:12 PM

His best card. Bar none.

I'd personally take the MJ/Lebron Exquisite dual logoman auto 1/1 over this.

03-11-2012, 08:34 PM	#1
Bibbseat55 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 981	What do you think THIS will end up selling for? Just came across it on eBay and thought the price was ridiculous...how far off do you think he is? FYI it's 23/99 in case you miss it LEBRON JAMES 2003-04 EXQUISITE AUTO JERSEY # 23/99 MIAMI HEAT (3) COLOR PATCH \| eBay __________________ Always collecting Redskins, Wizards, Orioles, and players in Maryland Terrapins uniform!! LOOKING FOR ANY 2009 DONRUSS ELITE THROWBACK THREADS PRIME 2 OR MORE COLOR DUAL PATCHES!!

03-11-2012, 09:11 PM	#3
boxbust421 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,711 dewitt415	I don't know where the market is right now but I'd hold it for the playoffs for sure. I can't believe it is raw as well. Possible just an attempt to see where the market is at right now or maybe someone is trying to hype the market. You never know anymore. __________________ 1/26--Just listed a bunch of auctions. Click the ebay icon to check them out. Football, Basketball and Hockey http://s1080.photobucket.com/home/boxbust421/index

03-12-2012, 09:07 AM	#14
SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,506 smurf_8 sethmurphy	that is absolutely one of the ugliest Exquisite designs I have ever seen __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

03-12-2012, 09:51 AM	#16
Bibbseat55 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 981	Driving over the card with your car is VERY different than it being an 8 as opposed to a 9 or 9.5!! I mean c'mon... __________________ Always collecting Redskins, Wizards, Orioles, and players in Maryland Terrapins uniform!! LOOKING FOR ANY 2009 DONRUSS ELITE THROWBACK THREADS PRIME 2 OR MORE COLOR DUAL PATCHES!!

03-12-2012, 02:12 PM	#25
sportzluvr1 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the blue waffle of the Great Midwest Posts: 7,809	His best card. Bar none. I'd personally take the MJ/Lebron Exquisite dual logoman auto 1/1 over this. __________________ PSA 10 is a LIAR……(sometimes)

03-11-2012, 09:08 PM	#2
ebaycatdogoo Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: AR Posts: 698 freemaximum	My guess is it probably won't sell, but if I was guessing I would say $23000

03-11-2012, 09:34 PM	#4
XARZY Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 8,729 Xarzy	card is probably slabbed. I agree he is testing the market

03-11-2012, 09:56 PM	#5
Orangejello727 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 19,096	is it me or does the card look to be in rough shape? Idol, you seriously need to take better scans of your high end stash!!

03-11-2012, 11:01 PM	#6
ivbaseball06 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,663 ivbaseball06	SHADY ALERT This card did not grade well and the seller is trying to hide that in the auction. Here is the epic video of this guy's amazing LBJ collection. If you go to 11:30 you'll see the card in question, which he covers the grade up on. You can tell by the paper that's in the slab that it's at least a BGS 8 or below. The VERY BEST LeBron James 2003 Autograph Collection! Exquisite!! #23 & 1/1 - YouTube Looking at BGS Population Reports there are only 9 of these that have been under an 8.5. There are 3 of each 7.0, 7.5, or 8.0. So it's safe to say this card is between a 7.0 and an 8.0. Since the seller says all of his auctions are NRMT-MT or better, it's probably safe to say it's a BGS 8. Anything below that is not NRMT-MT. Technically the seller is disclosing that it's an 8 or better, but still very shady for a very expensive card, especially with the purposely blurry pictures. Last edited by ivbaseball06; 03-11-2012 at 11:07 PM.

03-11-2012, 11:07 PM	#7
Cubs_rock21 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,751	guy sounds like a creeper

03-12-2012, 12:13 AM	#9
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,001 pingbling23	that is a nice card either way, i asked him a question on his auction if it was graded or raw, well see if he replies.

03-12-2012, 08:47 AM	#12
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,371 blackbears86	they guy in the video had gross creepy fingernails, but the cards were nice. Why cover up the grade? you have #23/99!!!!!!!

03-12-2012, 10:31 AM	#20
dmogull Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 4,038 m3equals333	by the time his career is over, Lebron would have played the majority of his years as #6 and if he breaks and records or wins any championships it will be wearing #6, so the JSY# on this card means nothing to me....