Any idea on the value of this card?

[rhigh2390]

All comments welcome. Will be selling, but didn't know the value. Its a 99-00 UD Game Jersey GJ61 Century Club Jersey. I know Beckett says its value is $120 but the last one like this sold for $150 and it was just a piece of jersey, this is a nice 3 color patch.

[Rare23air83]

With that patch and if the condition is Mint... I'd say more than $200 easy. Shaquille cards are quite hot right now. I'd post it up with a $350 BIN and see what type of offers you'd get. Good luck!

[rhigh2390]

Pretty funny you say $350 bc I put it up for that price with a best offer option. Thanks!

[hairyangryfella]

My concern is that it says Century Club Game JERSEY and it's a patch piece. I've seen the Century jerseys, I've seen the regular patch cards. I've not seen a Century Patch, or a card labelled as jersey but with a patch, unless it's a fake...

[rhigh2390]

There are alot of jersey card sets that have multi colored jerseys or patches that only say game jersey. But thank you for your oppinion. Usually when patches are fake, they put some crazy patch like a lakers logo or something.

[tristan20]

Should be a jersey as hairyangryfella said.

There are a ton with fake patches

[rhigh2390]

Thank you both for your input.

[Igman7]

The card has 100% been altered to include the patch. There was NO crossover in early jersey cards. Every single one that contained a patch was on a PATCH card by Upper Deck.

[forgiven1]

My thoughts exactly......The patch is most likely a fake....sorry!

[rhigh2390]

So is it worth nothing or what?

[Rare23air83]

Originally Posted by Igman7

The card has 100% been altered to include the patch. There was NO crossover in early jersey cards. Every single one that contained a patch was on a PATCH card by Upper Deck.

Whoah that's very interesting. I had no idea early UD Jersey cards never included a patch.

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Is that a faked card then?! I've seen the 1997-98 UD Jersey Auto Jordan have some color/patch in them. I would really like to know as I was planning to bid strongly on that. If that's a fake patch and PSA graded it being "altered," that's horrible.

[forgiven1]

Originally Posted by Rare23air83

Whoah that's very interesting. I had no idea early UD Jersey cards never included a patch.

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Is that a faked card then?! I've seen the 1997-98 UD Jersey Auto Jordan have some color/patch in them. I would really like to know as I was planning to bid strongly on that. If that's a fake patch and PSA graded it being "altered," that's horrible.

I believe that card is suspect as well..At least i think i remember reading that somewhere on one of the forums...

[rhigh2390]

I am with you RareAir. I have seen a bunch of Upper deck jerseys that include patches that aren't altered. They can have their oppinion but I just don't agree with them.

[forgiven1]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I am with you RareAir. I have seen a bunch of Upper deck jerseys that include patches that aren't altered. They can have their oppinion but I just don't agree with them.

Really? Oh, thats right your the guy selling it!....LOL!

[tristan20]

UD Never game patches out like they do now.

If it says Jersey it pretty much was, the multicolored ones are usually jersey cards that had prints like some Barkley and the Jordan all star prints. Those were legit.

The crazy patches that weren't labeled Patch were 99% of the time faked.

But who knows

[rhigh2390]

We are all able to have an oppinion. I don't mind if people don't agree with my oppinion, but don't jump all over me just because I don't agree with yours.

[forgiven1]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

We are all able to have an oppinion. I don't mind if people don't agree with my oppinion, but don't jump all over me just because I don't agree with yours.

sorry......

[Rare23air83]

Damn. Hmm... now I'm real curious if that Logoman Jordan jersey is real or fake. I was planning to bid strongly on that too. Now I'm a bit scared to even participate.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I am with you RareAir. I have seen a bunch of Upper deck jerseys that include patches that aren't altered. They can have their oppinion but I just don't agree with them.

There was one Jordan GJ with the bottom part of a logoman in it that brought on huge debate. Now there is PWCC's top part of a logoman. The logoman patches in both cards are not the same size (I believe there is a thread on HK with a post of the two pics showing this) so at least one, if not both, is fake.
97-98 Game Jerseys may have had some screen printed patches (Camby and Hill as example) but generally any other JERSEY set has not contained any PATCH.
You can believe what you want, but bear in mind if there is this much debate/questioning, then clearly it's not going to be as easy to sell as you thought it might.

[Rare23air83]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

There was one Jordan GJ with the bottom part of a logoman in it that brought on huge debate. Now there is PWCC's top part of a logoman. The logoman patches in both cards are not the same size (I believe there is a thread on HK with a post of the two pics showing this) so at least one, if not both, is fake.
97-98 Game Jerseys may have had some screen printed patches (Camby and Hill as example) but generally any other JERSEY set has not contained any PATCH.
You can believe what you want, but bear in mind if there is this much debate/questioning, then clearly it's not going to be as easy to sell as you thought it might.

WOW. Thanks for the info. I am staying away from that card. Too much of a risk. PSA is horrible for grading it.

[rhigh2390]

I will probably end up listing it as a .99 auction and just see how much it goes for.

[CP3toOKC]

PSA grades the card not the patch. Same discussion regarding the BGS AUTHENTIC grading. Many people think the blue label on the graded BGS case makes their patch authentic, but BGS doesn't grade the patch, only the card or the autograph itself.

[rhigh2390]

Still though, obviously not everyone is convinced UD didnt make patch cards that didnt say patch on them if that Jordan is already at $4,000.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Still though, obviously not everyone is convinced UD didnt make patch cards that didnt say patch on them if that Jordan is already at $4,000.

You're missing the other point, that seller always gets mega prices...

[Igman7]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

I am with you RareAir. I have seen a bunch of Upper deck jerseys that include patches that aren't altered. They can have their oppinion but I just don't agree with them.

Perhaps in recent years but NEVER on the early stuff. As a person who has been dealing in sports cards for several year before the very first jerseys hit the market, I can amn near guarantee that your card has been altered.

While the Jordan All Star Jersey cards (as well as a few others) did include some multi-colored pieces because of screened-on graphics, there were never ones with sewn on patches that ended up on jersey cards. Back in those days, PATCH cards were something like 1:7,500 packs.