Did I get a better deal this time around on a NASTY patch?!

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 05:35 AM

See some on the bay over $40 of different players and the other Pierre Thomas sold for 60+ and I payed less than half

350559394179

270990895871

Heading out for finals so on my phone but can put the links up in 3 hours

Also any opinion on how you like the patches is much appreciated. My best Pierre yet! Very happy to wake up seeing I won at that price too

jlzinck · 06-11-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

See some on the bay over $40 of different players and the other Pierre Thomas sold for 60+ and I payed less than half

350559394179

270990895871

Heading out for finals so on my phone but can put the links up in 3 hours

Also any opinion on how you like the patches is much appreciated. My best Pierre yet! Very happy to wake up seeing I won at that price too

Oyyyy. I hope you don't need to use "paid" in your finals.

If you are happy with what you paid for it then leave it at that.

hugh · 06-11-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

See some on the bay over $40 of different players and the other Pierre Thomas sold for 60+ and I payed less than half

Heading out for finals so on my phone but can put the links up in 3 hours

I hope it's not a spelling test

yankeesfan24 · 06-11-2012, 08:13 AM

are you going to sell this one too?

avjp87 · 06-11-2012, 08:18 AM

ok, someone bring me up to speed with what went on please

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by avjp87

ok, someone bring me up to speed with what went on please

What?

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan24

are you going to sell this one too?

No way just wanted to see what people thought if you would consider a steal. Love the patch it looks nasty never selling. I have another /25 from the set and that I'll sell possibly.

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Originally Posted by hugh

I hope it's not a spelling test

Nah English and this was early in the morning on my phone half asleep ha

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Originally Posted by jlzinck

Oyyyy. I hope you don't need to use "paid" in your finals.

If you are happy with what you paid for it then leave it at that.

Yea I am and it was English actually but it was too easy. But yea I feelin was a good price IMO just wanted to see other peoples responses

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 09:21 AM

You got SMOKED! You can get a complete, officially licensed Pierre Thomas Jersey for $90, the same kind as the 15 jerseys they had him wear at the rookie premier, that they cut up to put in that card! These cards will be in the $1 bin 10 years from now.

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 09:24 AM

Why do they usually set at $65 then? Lol

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

Why do they usually set at $65 then? Lol

This was the first year Topps and Panini really opened the floodgates on all these fake patch cards. I have not done a full count but each company made at least 7 football sets LOADED with patches. Collectors are snapping them up still because they were shut out of the genuine patch card market for the last 10 years when they were all game used and cost hundreds of dollars per card.

Eventually, collectors will move on to their new favorite players/prospects and dump what they have, even within 18-24 months there will be tens of thousands of these patch cards available for pennies on the dollar.

I don't want to rain on your parade, I am just trying to give all the football collectors what I think is good advice. I have seen overproduction destroy anything and everything cool this hobby has ever produced.

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 10:00 AM

I'm kind of confused. Are you sayin that these are fake?

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Originally Posted by danimal875

This was the first year Topps and Panini really opened the floodgates on all these fake patch cards. I have not done a full count but each company made at least 7 football sets LOADED with patches. Collectors are snapping them up still because they were shut out of the genuine patch card market for the last 10 years when they were all game used and cost hundreds of dollars per card.

Eventually, collectors will move on to their new favorite players/prospects and dump what they have, even within 18-24 months there will be tens of thousands of these patch cards available for pennies on the dollar.

I don't want to rain on your parade, I am just trying to give all the football collectors what I think is good advice. I have seen overproduction destroy anything and everything cool this hobby has ever produced.

Clarka3 · 06-11-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

This was the first year Topps and Panini really opened the floodgates on all these fake patch cards. I have not done a full count but each company made at least 7 football sets LOADED with patches. Collectors are snapping them up still because they were shut out of the genuine patch card market for the last 10 years when they were all game used and cost hundreds of dollars per card.

Eventually, collectors will move on to their new favorite players/prospects and dump what they have, even within 18-24 months there will be tens of thousands of these patch cards available for pennies on the dollar.

I don't want to rain on your parade, I am just trying to give all the football collectors what I think is good advice. I have seen overproduction destroy anything and everything cool this hobby has ever produced.

eh, i think he's ok since it's a PC Pickup. i do agree with most of this though.

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

I'm kind of confused. Are you sayin that these are fake?

That is EXACTLY what I am saying, These companies are putting pieces of Jerseys that you or I can go buy at Dick's Sporting Goods in these cards! Its no different than some Ebay scammer putting fake patches in an authentic jersey card. Here is a photo of Mark Ingram at the Rookie Premier wearing about 10 of these jerseys at once so they can be considered "player-worn" it is a SCAM through and through.

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 10:13 AM

Yea this is being sold to then D:

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarka3

eh, i think he's ok since it's a PC Pickup. i do agree with most of this though.

It would be OK as a PC pickup if these companies weren't pulling the wool over their customer's eyes. Many collectors at worst, think these memorabilia cards are game used, and the rest think that they all cam from one jersey worn at the shoot. paying more than $5 for any of these cards, with no autograph, no matter how "sick" or "nasty" the patch is, is ridiculous. Just like the insert fad of the nineties, all these cards have no intrinsic value.

People think they are rare because actual game used are rare. The OP and thousands of collectors are getting ripped off right now. Especially the really high end stuff like NT. $400 for 1 pack of Dick's Sporting Goods Jersey pieces? Really?

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 10:25 AM

A lot of the patches have dirt on them in playbook though

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Originally Posted by danimal875

It would be OK as a PC pickup if these companies weren't pulling the wool over their customer's eyes. Many collectors at worst, think these memorabilia cards are game used, and the rest think that they all cam from one jersey worn at the shoot. paying more than $5 for any of these cards, with no autograph, no matter how "sick" or "nasty" the patch is, is ridiculous. Just like the insert fad of the nineties, all these cards have no intrinsic value.

People think they are rare because actual game used are rare. The OP and thousands of collectors are getting ripped off right now. Especially the really high end stuff like NT. $400 for 1 pack of Dick's Sporting Goods Jersey pieces? Really?

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

A lot of the patches have dirt on them in playbook though

I just looked on Ebay, if any of them had dirt, they were veteran cards. The veteran cards ARE game used and in most cases a 1/4 of the size of the RCs and #'d to 5 or 10, not 400. Think about all the sets we saw this year where the patches take up 1/2 the card and are #'d 200 or more!

Clarka3 · 06-11-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

I just looked on Ebay, if any of them had dirt, they were veteran cards. The veteran cards ARE game used and in most cases a 1/4 of the size of the RCs and #'d to 5 or 10, not 400. Think about all the sets we saw this year where the patches take up 1/2 the card and are #'d 200 or more!

i'm completely with you. I just think if it's for your PC, it's not a bad buy is all.

Jackg1980 · 06-11-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

It would be OK as a PC pickup if these companies weren't pulling the wool over their customer's eyes. Many collectors at worst, think these memorabilia cards are game used, and the rest think that they all cam from one jersey worn at the shoot. paying more than $5 for any of these cards, with no autograph, no matter how "sick" or "nasty" the patch is, is ridiculous. Just like the insert fad of the nineties, all these cards have no intrinsic value.

People think they are rare because actual game used are rare. The OP and thousands of collectors are getting ripped off right now. Especially the really high end stuff like NT. $400 for 1 pack of Dick's Sporting Goods Jersey pieces? Really?

I have to agree with you. That is why I feel bad when collectors on here show off their "SICK" rookie patch collections. I rather have a plain jersey game used card then a sick patch event worn card. Sooner or later collectors will catch on and the event worn jersey card bubble will BURST!

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 10:57 AM

Yea Pierre Thomas was a veteran... so is that the game-used that are true ones? And still, I want a legin one for the PC to clarka3

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 10:58 AM

This is not a premier because first off he was a rookie in 07 and secondly, he was undrafted so he never attended the rookie premier

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Originally Posted by Jackg1980

I have to agree with you. That is why I feel bad when collectors on here show off their "SICK" rookie patch collections. I rather have a plain jersey game used card then a sick patch event worn card. Sooner or later collectors will catch on and the event worn jersey card bubble will BURST!

kat_nellie · 06-11-2012, 11:07 AM

It says event used, player worn, rookie premiere, and so on right on the cards. The card companies are not scamming people.

Your buying a rookie card, autographed most of the time. The patch makes them unique and can add to the value based on desirability. Fun to pull, fun to collect, fun to prospect on. What more do you want?

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM ,DON'T BUY THEM.

Jackg1980 · 06-11-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

This is not a premier because first off he was a rookie in 07 and secondly, he was undrafted so he never attended the rookie premier

Was not referring to yours but to the new rookie jersey cards.

pierrethomasfan · 06-11-2012, 11:31 AM

Ah gotcha! SO mine is actually game used like I thought!?!

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Originally Posted by Jackg1980

Was not referring to yours but to the new rookie jersey cards.

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pierrethomasfan

Ah gotcha! SO mine is actually game used like I thought!?!

The best way to tell is to read the back. It is only game used if it says so. They pull this crap with some vets too with Pro Bowl junk etc...

danimal875 · 06-11-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kat_nellie

It says event used, player worn, rookie premiere, and so on right on the cards. The card companies are not scamming people.

Your buying a rookie card, autographed most of the time. The patch makes them unique and can add to the value based on desirability. Fun to pull, fun to collect, fun to prospect on. What more do you want?

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM ,DON'T BUY THEM.

What they don't say is how many of these fake patch cards exist in total. If Panini makes 8 sets of the same year and in each set they have patch parallels of /10, /50, /100, /400 /600, by the end of the year they will have made 8,000 patch cards of one player. If they actually were marked /8000, people might pay what they are really worth, which is not much. I agree, with on card autos, there is real value, but just a patch piece is just a thick base card in my eyes.

As far as your rude comment, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM ,DON'T BUY THEM, which is basically telling me to shut up, I am trying to help a lot of the kids who read these boards realize they are blowing their allowance or lawn mowing $$ on what will be stuff for the dollar bins in 5 years. I don't give a flying booger what people want to collect, but the industry portrays these cards as rare and unique and they are not, plain and simple.

06-11-2012, 05:35 AM	#1
pierrethomasfan Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 6,299 pierre_thomas_super_collector	Did I get a better deal this time around on a NASTY patch?! See some on the bay over $40 of different players and the other Pierre Thomas sold for 60+ and I payed less than half 350559394179 270990895871 Heading out for finals so on my phone but can put the links up in 3 hours Also any opinion on how you like the patches is much appreciated. My best Pierre yet! Very happy to wake up seeing I won at that price too

06-11-2012, 08:13 AM	#4
yankeesfan24 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 19,031 tommy2221race yankeesfan24	are you going to sell this one too? __________________ Always looking for high-end Spencer Dinwiddie, Arsenal, and Mike Muscala

06-11-2012, 08:18 AM	#5
avjp87 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 12,052 avjp87	ok, someone bring me up to speed with what went on please

06-11-2012, 09:21 AM	#7
danimal875 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 4,929 thunder_cards thundercards	You got SMOKED! You can get a complete, officially licensed Pierre Thomas Jersey for $90, the same kind as the 15 jerseys they had him wear at the rookie premier, that they cut up to put in that card! These cards will be in the $1 bin 10 years from now.

06-11-2012, 09:24 AM	#8
pierrethomasfan Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 6,299 pierre_thomas_super_collector	Why do they usually set at $65 then? Lol

06-11-2012, 10:13 AM	#13
pierrethomasfan Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 6,299 pierre_thomas_super_collector	Yea this is being sold to then D:

06-11-2012, 10:57 AM	#19
pierrethomasfan Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 6,299 pierre_thomas_super_collector	Yea Pierre Thomas was a veteran... so is that the game-used that are true ones? And still, I want a legin one for the PC to clarka3

06-11-2012, 11:07 AM	#21
kat_nellie Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 421 KAT_NELLIE	It says event used, player worn, rookie premiere, and so on right on the cards. The card companies are not scamming people. Your buying a rookie card, autographed most of the time. The patch makes them unique and can add to the value based on desirability. Fun to pull, fun to collect, fun to prospect on. What more do you want? IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM ,DON'T BUY THEM.