birdman over bosh?

Fraser9698 · 06-07-2013, 04:35 AM

When is this going to happen? I would take birdman to start over bosh at this point. You can't underestimate toughness as a big man and bosh has none. Hell, at this point i'd resign harrellson and put him in there.

Lockdown32 · 06-07-2013, 04:50 AM

Never going to happen. Even a bad Bosh is still 10 times better than birdman.

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Originally Posted by Fraser9698

When is this going to happen? I would take birdman to start over bosh at this point. You can't underestimate toughness as a big man and bosh has none. Hell, at this point i'd resign harrellson and put him in there.

thecomebacker · 06-07-2013, 05:29 AM

Bosh was actually hitting his shots until that last shot....but I do agree why the F is he spotting outside the 3 line all the time?

Fraser9698 · 06-07-2013, 06:15 AM

5 rebounds. Unacceptable.

drob50 · 06-07-2013, 06:52 AM

He is the only one willing to play the pick and pop and vitally take his open jump shots!

He is not Zach Randolph, he is a tall high key forward!

Qwasian · 06-07-2013, 07:08 AM

I don't think birdman can play the minutes bosh can, he would get winded, he's really good in short intervals coming off the bench, I don't think he's be solid all game if you plugged him in bosh minutes.

tennelson55 · 06-07-2013, 07:25 AM

stop. rebounds are the single most overrated category. when you play basketball and are skin and bones (like bosh is) you can only box your man out (this is what you're supposed to do and not go for the rebound). also would you guess leonard has 10 rebounds??? hell no, or boris diaw with 1 rebound? maybe tiago with 2 rebounds? it's the most overated stat ever.
bosh isn't a bad player AT ALL. he had 11 pts out the heats first 25 if i remember correctly. if anything is to be blamed i personally think wade has trashed it. he had a good matchup in this series and the last while bosh hasn't. he's going against either leonard or green... both are very young and one was in the d league a few years back. bosh has to go against a timmy or a splitter (very good defender and like a david west, but quicker).

tennelson55 · 06-07-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thecomebacker

Bosh was actually hitting his shots until that last shot....but I do agree why the F is he spotting outside the 3 line all the time?

i agree with this statement too, but bosh reminds me of lebron trying in his younger days trying to jack 3's. he's just trying to get something going and it's not his shot. his shot is the 18 footer right below the 3pt line.

fullmetal · 06-07-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockdown32

Never going to happen. Even a bad Bosh is still 10 times better than birdman.

I have never been a fan of Bosh's play, but I think you are correct. Chris Anderson is one dimensional on both ends of the court. He is a help defender and a baseline position advantage scorer.

LeonfromNC · 06-07-2013, 08:55 AM

If Bosh would just stop shooting threes he wouldnt get the hate he gets. He is not a legit 3 pt shooter i can think of 7 better 3pt options on the Heat than him...

Allen, Miller, Chalmers, Cole, James, Battier, Jones and heck even Wade!

drob50 · 06-07-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LeonfromNC

If Bosh would just stop shooting threes he wouldnt get the hate he gets. He is not a legit 3 pt shooter i can think of 7 better 3pt options on the Heat than him...

Allen, Miller, Chalmers, Cole, James, Battier, Jones and heck even Wade!

The problem is that the Spurs know this as well, so Bosh was being left open while the defenders were closing out these guys! Why wouldn't he take the open shots?? Wade and some other were too scared to attempt any and kept passing off!

21taylor21-0911 · 06-07-2013, 10:03 AM

point is spurs made the adjustments to stop LeBron and the heat didn't make the adjustments. Once again u see how important a coach is

Dwade Collector · 06-07-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thecomebacker

Bosh was actually hitting his shots until that last shot....but I do agree why the F is he spotting outside the 3 line all the time?

He's too soft to play inside, I've been saying that since 2006 when he started developing his jumpshot instead of building an inside game

paul06901 · 06-07-2013, 11:11 AM

People hate on Bosh for shooting 3's ... but that's what Spoelstra wants!

When Lebron/Wade drive, they get doubled and the defense sinks in.

If Bosh sat in the paint, it'd get clogged up.

He *CAN* hit the three. If he makes them, defense can't help on Lebron/Wade.

I LOL when people say "Bosh should stop shooting 3's!"

Right... because you're a coach and understand that he's just out there shooting them because HE wants to!

EMD34 · 06-07-2013, 11:26 AM

I don't know what you have against Bosh, but not even a prime Birdman would dream of starting over Bosh. Bosh is a very good player, and there is no way the Heat would be where they are now without him.

marinocollector · 06-07-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by paul06901

People hate on Bosh for shooting 3's ... but that's what Spoelstra wants!

When Lebron/Wade drive, they get doubled and the defense sinks in.

If Bosh sat in the paint, it'd get clogged up.

He *CAN* hit the three. If he makes them, defense can't help on Lebron/Wade.

I LOL when people say "Bosh should stop shooting 3's!"

Right... because you're a coach and understand that he's just out there shooting them because HE wants to!

Thank you. THe Spurs have two bigs sitting in the lane. Bosh is on the arc to pull them out to open the lanes. If the Spurs do not respect that, then Bosh will hit the open 3. This is the basic parameters of their small ball offense.

pac213up · 06-07-2013, 12:25 PM

Have to play Bosh but my guess is the Spurs will be very content with letting a 28% 3pt shooter take those shots. He has done better in the post season but is likely to average out.

fullmetal · 06-07-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by marinocollector

Thank you. THe Spurs have two bigs sitting in the lane. Bosh is on the arc to pull them out to open the lanes. If the Spurs do not respect that, then Bosh will hit the open 3. This is the basic parameters of their small ball offense.

Pop will let Bosh have his. Pop has always been willing to give in to a lesser player in order to stop the star. If he can keep Lebron under 20 and let Bosh have open shots he will.

AlabamaSlamma · 06-07-2013, 12:34 PM

birdmanBIRDMAN

nothing more.

sportzking · 06-07-2013, 02:49 PM

Birdman and Bosh has 2 different playing styles. I would say Andersen is more of an inside presence, he tends to setup in the paint and play offense from there. Bosh is more like the new trending forwards who likes to shoot outside. If anything I would say that Andersen might be a bit better on defense but worse on offense.

bettydaw1970 · 06-07-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

Have to play Bosh but my guess is the Spurs will be very content with letting a 28% 3pt shooter take those shots. He has done better in the post season but is likely to average out.

28.8%..lol i checked..

yea he has been hot but the 0 for 4 yesterday may have cost them the game..

SocraticGoat777 · 06-08-2013, 03:15 AM

Yeah, Just because he didnt have a good game doesnt mean he is worse than Birdman. Bosh is still an allstart elite player that avged 24ppg at Toronto. He is slightly undersized but he is wayyyy better than Birdman

06-07-2013, 04:35 AM	#1
Fraser9698 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: @FraserMemGroup Posts: 3,800 frasermemorabiliagroup	birdman over bosh? When is this going to happen? I would take birdman to start over bosh at this point. You can't underestimate toughness as a big man and bosh has none. Hell, at this point i'd resign harrellson and put him in there.

06-07-2013, 05:29 AM	#3
thecomebacker Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: CA, USA Posts: 2,043	Bosh was actually hitting his shots until that last shot....but I do agree why the F is he spotting outside the 3 line all the time? __________________ lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Collecting Bulls Players 3 Color GU Patch Cards.

06-07-2013, 07:08 AM	#6
Qwasian Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saturn Posts: 11,649	I don't think birdman can play the minutes bosh can, he would get winded, he's really good in short intervals coming off the bench, I don't think he's be solid all game if you plugged him in bosh minutes. __________________ buying Andrew Wiggins, Karl-Anthony Towns, Marcus Mariota, Jameis Winston, Amari Cooper, Todd Gurley, Odell Beckham Jr. and Star Player RC bgs slabs.

06-07-2013, 07:25 AM	#7
tennelson55 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 5,440 tennelson55	stop. rebounds are the single most overrated category. when you play basketball and are skin and bones (like bosh is) you can only box your man out (this is what you're supposed to do and not go for the rebound). also would you guess leonard has 10 rebounds??? hell no, or boris diaw with 1 rebound? maybe tiago with 2 rebounds? it's the most overated stat ever. bosh isn't a bad player AT ALL. he had 11 pts out the heats first 25 if i remember correctly. if anything is to be blamed i personally think wade has trashed it. he had a good matchup in this series and the last while bosh hasn't. he's going against either leonard or green... both are very young and one was in the d league a few years back. bosh has to go against a timmy or a splitter (very good defender and like a david west, but quicker). __________________ looking for these basketball sets! 99-00 topps east/west, 04-05 ud black diamond gemography autos, 08-09 topps chrome orange refractors, 09-10 certified, 10-11 donruss cracked ice, 11-12 limited xrc non autos, 12-13 prizm, 12-13 brilliance spellbound letters

06-07-2013, 12:25 PM	#17
pac213up Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,268	Have to play Bosh but my guess is the Spurs will be very content with letting a 28% 3pt shooter take those shots. He has done better in the post season but is likely to average out. __________________ "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser." - Red Auerbach

06-07-2013, 06:15 AM	#4
Fraser9698 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: @FraserMemGroup Posts: 3,800 frasermemorabiliagroup	5 rebounds. Unacceptable.

06-07-2013, 06:52 AM	#5
drob50 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 4,369 spur92021	He is the only one willing to play the pick and pop and vitally take his open jump shots! He is not Zach Randolph, he is a tall high key forward!

06-07-2013, 08:55 AM	#10
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15,218	If Bosh would just stop shooting threes he wouldnt get the hate he gets. He is not a legit 3 pt shooter i can think of 7 better 3pt options on the Heat than him... Allen, Miller, Chalmers, Cole, James, Battier, Jones and heck even Wade!

06-07-2013, 10:03 AM	#12
21taylor21-0911 Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: SW VA Posts: 2,192 redskinsfan19652012	point is spurs made the adjustments to stop LeBron and the heat didn't make the adjustments. Once again u see how important a coach is

06-07-2013, 11:11 AM	#14
paul06901 Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,564	People hate on Bosh for shooting 3's ... but that's what Spoelstra wants! When Lebron/Wade drive, they get doubled and the defense sinks in. If Bosh sat in the paint, it'd get clogged up. He CAN hit the three. If he makes them, defense can't help on Lebron/Wade. I LOL when people say "Bosh should stop shooting 3's!" Right... because you're a coach and understand that he's just out there shooting them because HE wants to!

06-07-2013, 11:26 AM	#15
EMD34 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 4,936	I don't know what you have against Bosh, but not even a prime Birdman would dream of starting over Bosh. Bosh is a very good player, and there is no way the Heat would be where they are now without him.

06-07-2013, 12:34 PM	#19
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06-07-2013, 02:49 PM	#20
sportzking Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth :) Posts: 1,221	Birdman and Bosh has 2 different playing styles. I would say Andersen is more of an inside presence, he tends to setup in the paint and play offense from there. Bosh is more like the new trending forwards who likes to shoot outside. If anything I would say that Andersen might be a bit better on defense but worse on offense.

06-08-2013, 03:15 AM	#22
SocraticGoat777 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 690 chefmate123	Yeah, Just because he didnt have a good game doesnt mean he is worse than Birdman. Bosh is still an allstart elite player that avged 24ppg at Toronto. He is slightly undersized but he is wayyyy better than Birdman