eBay Buyer to avoid: jade20064eva

drew4one · 11-07-2013, 01:57 AM

Don't like to do this, but this guy really irritated me. Made an offer on my card, then accepted the offer. Then messages me 'offering' me to pay $200 less direct. Messaged him back telling him to just pay for the item he 'won'. Waited patiently for payment, while I noticed him bidding on other high-priced Flawless cards (including one similar to mine). Still doesn't pay and doesn't respond to my messages.

5 days later he finally responds to another message I send to him, saying that he can't pay for the price that he offered and won the item for, but he would be willing to pay for it direct for $200 less. Messaged him back letting him know that I turned down other offers that were close to the final price. Then told him I would work it out with him and offer him $100 less if paid direct. Received a response saying 'thanks for working it out' and that he promises to pay in a week once he gets the funds.

One week later and still nothing and back to no response. I also notice that he still continues to bid (and win) other items, as well as his most recent feedback from another buyer posting that he 'NEVER PAID'.

Already opened a case and closing it tonight. Makes me miss the days when a seller could leave a buyer Negative Feedback as well. Just wanted to share so others can avoid the trouble from this guy: jade20064eva

EricMetcalf21 · 11-07-2013, 02:20 AM

Ive had some real high priced easy sales with him. Sorry you are having problems.

ejs23 · 11-07-2013, 03:55 AM

i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? didn't ebay just make a big deal about that change?

i think with any new release these weasels come out... they hit the buy it now or make a best offer to lock in a price, then keep shopping for a better one. if they find it, they never pay the first one.

sucks.

thanks for the heads up one this joker.

trouts2 · 11-07-2013, 08:57 AM

I've had issues with him too. Bought a bowman Chrome baseball card from me and filed a PayPal cla because the card didn't grade gem 9.5. He's a loser. Block him

auctionjmm · 11-07-2013, 10:10 AM

Yeah this dude plays by his own rules. He bought a Nick Foles 84' auto refractor last year for $295.00 when Foles was promoted, and after a couple dud games I got an "Item Not Described" because of a slight surface scratch. The card was otherwise flawless, likely a 9.5 IMO, but they were half price by that time so he went and picked up another one for cheaper.

He is a grader who knows eBay policy well. He will make sure that he gets nothing less than Pristine or he sends stuff back to you for refund. Not worth the hassle IMO.

auctionjmm · 11-07-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ejs23

i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? didn't ebay just make a big deal about that change?

i think with any new release these weasels come out... they hit the buy it now or make a best offer to lock in a price, then keep shopping for a better one. if they find it, they never pay the first one.

sucks.

thanks for the heads up one this joker.

For whatever reason it doesn't seem that eBay actually implemented that. And quite frankly, I agree with NOT requiring immediate payment. I have several bulk buyers who will spread their purchases out over a week or so to save on shipping and it would be a PITA if I had to invoice them separately each day.

Anyway, see my post above. Immediate payment wouldn't stop this buyer either.

drew4one · 11-07-2013, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ejs23

i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? i think with any new release these weasels come out... they hit the buy it now or make a best offer to lock in a price, then keep shopping for a better one. if they find it, they never pay the first one.

I believe that's exactly what this guy is doing, based on his recently bid items (and on similar items) and comments from other sellers on here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

For whatever reason it doesn't seem that eBay actually implemented that. And quite frankly, I agree with NOT requiring immediate payment. I have several bulk buyers who will spread their purchases out over a week or so to save on shipping and it would be a PITA if I had to invoice them separately each day.

Anyway, see my post above. Immediate payment wouldn't stop this buyer either.

I agree with you on problems even if the buyer had paid. Just someone to avoid in the future overall.

Kodiak10 · 11-07-2013, 06:29 PM

He did the same thing to me with my Bradley Beal NT RPA /5. Never paid. Really annoying on time sensitive cards that are more than a few hundred. Of course the same thing happens on here all the time......

drew4one · 11-07-2013, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodiak10

He did the same thing to me with my Bradley Beal NT RPA /5. Never paid. Really annoying on time sensitive cards that are more than a few hundred. Of course the same thing happens on here all the time......

That sucks, and he knows it. Seem like he's a pain to deal with all-around, with or without payment made. A definite BLOCK.

mcgahee21nfl · 11-08-2013, 10:34 AM

What is this guys seller name on eBay? Anyone have his information?

brando_0055 · 11-08-2013, 12:02 PM

Justin is his name
He's a real winner winner chicken freaking dinner
I could post an entire movie script on this guy....!!!!

drew4one · 11-08-2013, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgahee21nfl

What is this guys seller name on eBay? Anyone have his information?

jade20064eva

Quote:

Originally Posted by brando_0055

Justin is his name
He's a real winner winner chicken freaking dinner
I could post an entire movie script on this guy....!!!!

LOL, Let's hear one of em!

Exquisite007 · 11-08-2013, 04:01 PM

Drew and all. I have to agree that it is utterly exhausting dealing with this guy!

drew4one · 11-08-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exquisite007

Drew and all. I have to agree that it is utterly exhausting dealing with this guy!

Hope people on here start blocking him and don't ever have to deal with his crap.

Thanks everyone for your feedback. I'm glad (but not REALLY glad...if you know what I mean) that it wasn't just me.

Happy Aloha Friday everyone!

proteinwisdom · 12-17-2013, 09:55 AM

Yup. Seems he makes this a pattern.

uberfatty · 12-17-2013, 10:01 AM

bump this up for the guy screwing over another member

IronMonkey415 · 12-17-2013, 10:04 AM

Oh this is that Jaderock guy people are talking about I think. Die Hard Mark Brunell fan.

xavieronly1 · 12-17-2013, 10:34 AM

This name comes up so often in google search.

File claim after 5 minutes of BIN.
quickest case of buyers remorse ever????

BIN without paid TWICE!
Kyrie Irving 2012 2013 Panini Flawless Rookie Patch Auto 19 25 Cavaliers RC | eBay

ninjacookies · 12-17-2013, 12:04 PM

About 20 direct messages from this guy on ebay asking what the best price is I can do for the card direct off ebay.

Yes, the same card. And yes, 20 messages.

Blocked.

shrevecity · 12-17-2013, 01:58 PM

i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? didn't ebay just make a big deal about that change?

It did in many categories, but sportscards is not one of them.

proteinwisdom · 12-20-2013, 02:55 PM

This guy defaced a $600 card of mine so that he could make an "item not as described claim" -- and to punish me for forcing him to return the entire lot (I sold him 5 cards, 4 of which he must have thought were definite gems; nothing about the Frazier black stood out to me when I sent it, believing it would grade GEM or MINT at worst), not just the one card he worried wouldn't grade GEM.

I don't block many people. But this guy is blocked. Because in addition to being a tool, if you give him your email address he'll write you constantly asking your opinion on his deals. In the kind of English that would make a fifth-grader cringe. I know a ton of high-end dealers and I myself deal in higher end chrome color RCs. And since this began I've heard from nearly every one of them telling me that this guy is a living nightmare, that he tries to return nearly every card if he can a) find one cheaper in the interim, or b) isn't positive it will grade a Gem.

Two words: douche salad.

I wouldn't just ban him. I'd shun him.

benshobbies · 12-25-2013, 07:23 AM

Blocked, thanks so much!

auctionjmm · 05-11-2014, 06:09 PM

Bumping this thread because the scum bag is at it again.

I had a brain fart earlier this week and accepted an offer of $1,300 for my Maikel Franco Mini Superfractor Autograph. I was at work and quickly accepted without realizing it was Jade (and I do realize he has screwed me before).

Anyway, I've been following his recent activity on eBay and it is alarming. He has won tons of high end Bowman but his recent positive feedback is only a fraction of what he's actually purchased, so I expect more NPB's to follow. I'm starting to wonder if this guy has a connection at eBay because he has yet to be punished despite dozens of complaints about him.

So just another warning to everyone. He will try to suck you in with a sweet offer on your nice cards, but then he decides whether or not to pay only after the item is won, and he is unphased by NPB strikes.

roc21 · 05-11-2014, 09:00 PM

If you want to really screw him over.. report him to ebay and tell them to check your messages that he tried to get you to do the deal off ebay. the ebay nazis will shut him down.

11-07-2013, 01:57 AM	#1
drew4one Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 351 drew4one	eBay Buyer to avoid: jade20064eva Don't like to do this, but this guy really irritated me. Made an offer on my card, then accepted the offer. Then messages me 'offering' me to pay $200 less direct. Messaged him back telling him to just pay for the item he 'won'. Waited patiently for payment, while I noticed him bidding on other high-priced Flawless cards (including one similar to mine). Still doesn't pay and doesn't respond to my messages. 5 days later he finally responds to another message I send to him, saying that he can't pay for the price that he offered and won the item for, but he would be willing to pay for it direct for $200 less. Messaged him back letting him know that I turned down other offers that were close to the final price. Then told him I would work it out with him and offer him $100 less if paid direct. Received a response saying 'thanks for working it out' and that he promises to pay in a week once he gets the funds. One week later and still nothing and back to no response. I also notice that he still continues to bid (and win) other items, as well as his most recent feedback from another buyer posting that he 'NEVER PAID'. Already opened a case and closing it tonight. Makes me miss the days when a seller could leave a buyer Negative Feedback as well. Just wanted to share so others can avoid the trouble from this guy: jade20064eva

11-07-2013, 10:10 AM	#5
auctionjmm Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 10,184 auctionjmm	Yeah this dude plays by his own rules. He bought a Nick Foles 84' auto refractor last year for $295.00 when Foles was promoted, and after a couple dud games I got an "Item Not Described" because of a slight surface scratch. The card was otherwise flawless, likely a 9.5 IMO, but they were half price by that time so he went and picked up another one for cheaper. He is a grader who knows eBay policy well. He will make sure that he gets nothing less than Pristine or he sends stuff back to you for refund. Not worth the hassle IMO. __________________ I have finally created a Facebook business page. If you are interested or would be so kind as to like/follow me, please check it out! https://www.facebook.com/Auctionjmm/

11-08-2013, 04:01 PM	#13
Exquisite007 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 248 change007	Drew and all. I have to agree that it is utterly exhausting dealing with this guy! __________________ I collect Baseball (Yankees, Mantle, Ruth, Gehrig and Derek Jeter), Football (Barry Sanders, 49ers, Walter Payton), Basketball (Jordan, Kobe, Lebron), Some Golf (Tiger Woods) and Some Racing (Gordon, Patrick, Earnhardt)

12-17-2013, 10:34 AM	#18
xavieronly1 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 13,006	This name comes up so often in google search. File claim after 5 minutes of BIN. quickest case of buyers remorse ever???? BIN without paid TWICE! Kyrie Irving 2012 2013 Panini Flawless Rookie Patch Auto 19 25 Cavaliers RC \| eBay __________________ Instagram IG: xavieronly1

12-20-2013, 02:55 PM	#21
proteinwisdom Banned Join Date: May 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,892 celluloid-wisdom proteinwisdom	This guy defaced a $600 card of mine so that he could make an "item not as described claim" -- and to punish me for forcing him to return the entire lot (I sold him 5 cards, 4 of which he must have thought were definite gems; nothing about the Frazier black stood out to me when I sent it, believing it would grade GEM or MINT at worst), not just the one card he worried wouldn't grade GEM. I don't block many people. But this guy is blocked. Because in addition to being a tool, if you give him your email address he'll write you constantly asking your opinion on his deals. In the kind of English that would make a fifth-grader cringe. I know a ton of high-end dealers and I myself deal in higher end chrome color RCs. And since this began I've heard from nearly every one of them telling me that this guy is a living nightmare, that he tries to return nearly every card if he can a) find one cheaper in the interim, or b) isn't positive it will grade a Gem. Two words: douche salad. I wouldn't just ban him. I'd shun him. Last edited by proteinwisdom; 12-20-2013 at 03:01 PM.

11-07-2013, 02:20 AM	#2
EricMetcalf21 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,787	Ive had some real high priced easy sales with him. Sorry you are having problems.

11-07-2013, 03:55 AM	#3
ejs23 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,219 ratpack023 estambol	i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? didn't ebay just make a big deal about that change? i think with any new release these weasels come out... they hit the buy it now or make a best offer to lock in a price, then keep shopping for a better one. if they find it, they never pay the first one. sucks. thanks for the heads up one this joker.

11-07-2013, 08:57 AM	#4
trouts2 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WA state Posts: 4,760 Ig-cccards88 cwc2002	I've had issues with him too. Bought a bowman Chrome baseball card from me and filed a PayPal cla because the card didn't grade gem 9.5. He's a loser. Block him

11-07-2013, 06:29 PM	#8
Kodiak10 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Good ole USA Posts: 2,102	He did the same thing to me with my Bradley Beal NT RPA /5. Never paid. Really annoying on time sensitive cards that are more than a few hundred. Of course the same thing happens on here all the time......

11-08-2013, 10:34 AM	#10
mcgahee21nfl Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,555	What is this guys seller name on eBay? Anyone have his information?

11-08-2013, 12:02 PM	#11
brando_0055 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 453	Justin is his name He's a real winner winner chicken freaking dinner I could post an entire movie script on this guy....!!!!

12-17-2013, 09:55 AM	#15
proteinwisdom Banned Join Date: May 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,892 celluloid-wisdom proteinwisdom	Yup. Seems he makes this a pattern.

12-17-2013, 10:01 AM	#16
uberfatty Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,528 uberfatty	bump this up for the guy screwing over another member

12-17-2013, 10:04 AM	#17
IronMonkey415 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 44,118 ironmonkeyfromsf	Oh this is that Jaderock guy people are talking about I think. Die Hard Mark Brunell fan.

12-17-2013, 12:04 PM	#19
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,278	About 20 direct messages from this guy on ebay asking what the best price is I can do for the card direct off ebay. Yes, the same card. And yes, 20 messages. Blocked.

12-17-2013, 01:58 PM	#20
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	i thought buy-it-now listings stayed up until the buyer paid? didn't ebay just make a big deal about that change? It did in many categories, but sportscards is not one of them.

12-25-2013, 07:23 AM	#22
benshobbies Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Berkshire County, MA Posts: 7,547 benshobbies benshobbies	Blocked, thanks so much!

05-11-2014, 06:09 PM	#23
auctionjmm Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 10,184 auctionjmm	Bumping this thread because the scum bag is at it again. I had a brain fart earlier this week and accepted an offer of $1,300 for my Maikel Franco Mini Superfractor Autograph. I was at work and quickly accepted without realizing it was Jade (and I do realize he has screwed me before). Anyway, I've been following his recent activity on eBay and it is alarming. He has won tons of high end Bowman but his recent positive feedback is only a fraction of what he's actually purchased, so I expect more NPB's to follow. I'm starting to wonder if this guy has a connection at eBay because he has yet to be punished despite dozens of complaints about him. So just another warning to everyone. He will try to suck you in with a sweet offer on your nice cards, but then he decides whether or not to pay only after the item is won, and he is unphased by NPB strikes. __________________ I have finally created a Facebook business page. If you are interested or would be so kind as to like/follow me, please check it out! https://www.facebook.com/Auctionjmm/

05-11-2014, 09:00 PM	#24
roc21 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Posts: 2,883	If you want to really screw him over.. report him to ebay and tell them to check your messages that he tried to get you to do the deal off ebay. the ebay nazis will shut him down. __________________ Vikings fan...but pc Dolphins for my son