non major sport rookie card checklist (showcase)

Eagles33 · 05-25-2014, 11:02 PM

I have posted this before on the psa board but figured some people here might find it interesting. I grew up collecting football cards. Mostly 80s and early 90s. i got back into the hobby a few years ago and just started picking up rookie cards i never got when i was a kid. I never got into the modern inserts and can't keep track of trillion different sets that come out so pretty much just look to pick up topps or topps chrome rookie cards. Anyways.. with ebay collecting became pretty easy. I could pretty much find any card im looking for on any given day on ebay. It was just a matter if i wanted to spend the money or not. I got a little board with it so I started looking for superstars from sports that are not as popular. I'm not even a big fan of most of these sports but like the idea of getting the "rookies" of the greatest in all these different sports. I tried to get representation from all different sports. its been pretty fun putting this together. Just wondering what people thought of the checklist and to see if i was missing anyone obviouse. popularity kinda trumped actually performance.. like Roddick making list for tennis.. I'm sure there are better but not as popular. Someday I'll get around to adding scans of the one I have. Im close to getting all of these... But I'm constantly adding to it.

Bowling
Player Year Set
Don Carter 1972 PBA Tour Bowler Photos
Dick Weber 1972 PBA Tour Bowler Photos
Pete Weber 1990 Kingpins PBA

Boxing
John Sullivan 1887 Allen & Ginter
Jack Johnson 1909 Ogdens
Jack Dempsey 1922 Felix Potin
Joe Louis 1935 United Tobacco
Sugar Ray Robinson 1948 Leaf
Rocky Marciano 1951 Topps Ringside
Muhammad Ali 1965 Lampo - has other earlier issues that are hand cut or over sized.. but this is my personal pick.
Sonny Liston 1966 Panini Campioni Dello Sport
Joe Frazier 1964 Bobbie Bubble Gum Tokio
Roberto Duran 1973 Panini Campioni Dello Sport
George Foreman 1973 Panini Campioni Dello Sport
Sugar Ray Leonard 1981 Panini Sport Superstars
Mike Tyson 1986 Panini Supersport Italian
Evander Holyfield 1986 Browns Boxing
Roy Jones Jr. 1991 Kayo
Floyd Mayweather Jr. 1997 Brown's Boxing
Manny Pacquiao 1999 Word Boxing

Golf
Walter Hagen 1926 Spalding Champions
Bobby Jones 1926 Lambert & Butler Robert T.
Ben Hogan 1951 Berk Ross
Arnold Palmer 1965 Bancroft Tiddlers Giants Of Sport
Jack Nicklaus 1971 Barratt & Co Famous Sportsmen
Payne Stewart 1983 Miller Press
Greg Norman 1986 Panini Supersport Uk
Phil Mickelson 1992 Diamond Sports
Tiger Woods 1996 S.I. For Kids

Horse Racing
Man o' War 1920 Preakness (Ticket)
Sea Biscut 1937 (Ticket)
War Admiral 1937 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Citation 1948 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Secretariat 1973 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Seattle Slew 1977 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Affirmed 1978 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Zenyatta 2008 Breeders Cup (Ticket)

Jockeys
Willie Shoemaker 1955 Kentucky Derby (Ticket)
Mike Smith 1991 Horse Star Jockey
Calvin Borel 1992 Horse Star Jockey
John Velazques 1992 Horse Star Jockey

UFC/MMA
Bruce Lee 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon
Chuck Norris 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon Series 2
Ken Shamrock 1995 BBM
Randy Couture 1998 Culture House - Asics Heros of Wrestling
Chuck Liddell 2003 Sherdog
Royce Gracie 2006 Pride Card Collection

Olympics
John Weissmuller 1926 Spalding Champions
Jesse Owens 1935 Muratti Cigarettes
Roger Bannister 1955 Abc Minors British Athletes
Mark Spitz 1968 Panini
Daniel Gable 1972 Panini Munich
Greg Louganis 1981 Panini Sport Superstars
Carl Lewis 1985 Poulain Greats of the Game
Lance Armstrong 1992 Impel Olympicard
Michael Phelps 2003 Czech Stadion
Apolo Anton Ohno 2004 Leaf Fans of the Game
Usain Bolt 2008 SI For Kids

Racing
Mario Andretti 1969 Panini Campioni Dello Sport
Richard Petty 1972 Stp
Dale Earnhardt 1983 Uno
Jeff Gordon 1987 World Of Outlaws
Michael Schumacher 1992 Grid Formula One
Valentino Rossi 1997 Edigamma I Grandi Campioni Dello Sport
Jimmie Johnson 2000 Sp Authentic

Soccer
Pele 1958 Ave Ltda. Colecao Titulares (could also choose from many other issues from 1958)
George Best 1964 Barratt & Co. Ltd Famous Footballers
Diego Maradona 1978 Figurita Crack Mundial
Roberto Baggio 1985 Panini Calciatori
David Beckham 1995 Raven Manchester Utd. Red Devils
Cristiano Ronaldo 2002 Panini Mega Craques
Leo Messi 2004 Spanish Panini Megacracks

Tennis
Rene Lacoste 1926 Lambert & Butler
Fred Perry 1931 W.A. & A.C. Churchman Sporting Celebrities
Rod Laver 1968 Mira
Arthur Ashe 1966 Ruiz Romero Fútbol Tenis Ciclismo
Bjorn Borg 1974 Panini Sport Vedettes
Jimmy Connors 1981 Panini Sport Superstars
John Mcenroe 1981 Panini Sport Superstars
Andre Agassi 1987 Panini
Pete Sampras 1991 Netpro
Andy Roddick 2001 Netpro
Roger Federer 2003 Netpro
Rafael Nadal 2003 Netpro

Wrestling
Andre The Giant 1974 Yamakatsu New Japan Pro Wrestling
Ric Flair 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A
Hulk Hogan. 1981 Popy
Roddy Piper 1985 O-Pee-Chee Wwf Pro Wrestling Stars
The Road Warriors 1985 Wrestling All Stars
Randy Savage 1985 O-Pee-Chee Series 2
The Brittish Bulldogs 1985 O-Pee-Chee Series 2
Bret Hart 1987 O-Pee-Chee Wwf Pro Wrestling Stars
Sting 1987 Wonderama Test
Ultimate Warrior 1989 WWF Super Stars Of Wrestling Series 3
Demolition 1989 WWF Super Stars Of Wrestling Series 1
Steve Austin 1991 Cromy
The Rock 1998 WWF Superstarz

XGames
Duke Kahanamoku 1913 Pan Handle Scrap World's Champion Athletes
Evel Knievel 1974 Evel Knievel Topps
Tony Hawk 1990 SI For Kids
Kelly Slater 1987 Astroboyz
Eddie Aikau 1987 Astroboyz
Shaun White 2003 SI For Kids

Other
Minnesota Fats 1965 Book Of Pool Billiards
Donald Bradman 1930 John Player & Sons Cricket
Sachin Tendulkar 1992 ProSport Cricket
Cachin (Jose Uriarte) 1984 Berensens' Hartford Jai Alai
Gary Gait 1993 MILL Lacrosse Lacrosse
Gareth Edwards 1979 Venorlandus Rugby
Jonah Lomu 1995 Dynamic Marketing All Blacks Rugby
Francois Pienaar 1992 Sports Deck Rugby
Karch Kiraly 1989 SI For Kids Voleyball

sthoemke · 05-25-2014, 11:50 PM

Great list!!!

Not trying to start a debate, but just noting a few earlier cards:

Bruce Lee is in several 1966 Green Hornet sets.

Duke Kahanamoku was on a earlier playing card (1909?)

John Sullivan has earlier cards: 1880 Duke Sons, 1887 Old Judge N172, 1888 Spaulding & Merrick N386

Andre the Giant has a 1973 Dimanche/Derniere Heure card (as Jean Ferre)

Ultimate Warrior has 1988 Quaker Oats card, as well as WWF playing cards.

Lance Armstrong is in a earlier USPS card set.

Tony Hawk's SI card is from 1990

NickM · 05-25-2014, 11:54 PM

For Olympics, I'd include Rafer Johnson, Nadia Comaneci, Olga Korbut, Mary Lou Retton, Wyomia Tyus, Wilma Rudolph, and everyone in the IAAF Hall of Fame who has cards - and probably a lot more if I gave it more thought.

For soccer, everyone in the 18-member International Football Hall of Champions should be in. PSA has the list as a registry set.

For auto racing, A.J. Foyt, Al Unser, Bobby Unser, Cale Yarborough, David Pearson, Bobby Allison, Darrell Waltrip, John Force, Don Garlits, Shirley Muldowney, Don Prudhomme, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio (if he has a card), Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna, Sebastian Vettel, Jack Brabham, and Jackie Stewart.

For wrestling, Bruno Sammartino, Superstar Billy Graham, the Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, and Mick Foley (one or more of his characters' rookies).

For other sports, I know Geoff Hunt (squash) is in 1979 Golden Wonder and may have other cards. I have no idea if other squash stars have cards. Steve Timmons is a must for volleyball.

For tennis, women's tennis should be added - Wills Moody, Court Smith, King, Navratilova, Evert, Graf, Seles, and the Williams sisters are musts, and Sharapova's popularity suggests adding her.

sthoemke · 05-26-2014, 01:00 AM

Ali (aka Cassius Clay) - 1960 Hemmets Journal (yeah, hand-cut) or 1960 Exhibit Supply, produced over several years, but I think sepia green is considered the earliest, if not the toughtest.

sthoemke · 05-26-2014, 01:02 AM

Jack Johnson has 1908 T226 Red Sun and 1908 Health & Strength Postcard.

sthoemke · 05-26-2014, 01:12 AM

Evel Knievel has a 1971 lobby card set

Eagles33 · 05-26-2014, 09:16 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. Does anyone have more info on the evel kneviel card the lance Armstrong cards that were mentioned?

sthoemke · 05-26-2014, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles33

Thanks for the feedback guys. Does anyone have more info on the evel kneviel card the lance Armstrong cards that were mentioned?

Here are some of the lobby cards. In addition to the US set, there is also a Mexican/Spanish set.

Evel Knievel 1971 lobby card | eBay

sthoemke · 05-26-2014, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles33

Thanks for the feedback guys. Does anyone have more info on the evel kneviel card the lance Armstrong cards that were mentioned?

Sorry, I was wrong about the date of the USPS Lance Armstrong card. It was part of the set for the US Cycling Team.

The Impel card is indeed the first card.

Eagles33 · 05-26-2014, 09:37 PM

Cool thanks for the info. Ill look into some of these. I like learning about new sets and athletes. I'm pretty sure the playing card set with duke Kahanamoku is from the 20s. One was on eBay about a month ago but advertised as from 1909. I'll look into the Jack Johnson and Sullivan cards that were mentioned too. The Ali rookie is a never ending debate.. I decided to go with the lampo. Its just a personal preference but I guess if I had to defend it.. It's the first pack issued card.. That I'm aware of anyways. I also don't like the 1947 Cummings cards or sports casters. I tried to pick traditional sized cards and stayed away from strip cards or caricature cards.

sthoemke · 05-27-2014, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles33

Cool thanks for the info. Ill look into some of these. I like learning about new sets and athletes. I'm pretty sure the playing card set with duke Kahanamoku is from the 20s. One was on eBay about a month ago but advertised as from 1909. I'll look into the Jack Johnson and Sullivan cards that were mentioned too. The Ali rookie is a never ending debate.. I decided to go with the lampo. Its just a personal preference but I guess if I had to defend it.. It's the first pack issued card.. That I'm aware of anyways. I also don't like the 1947 Cummings cards or sports casters. I tried to pick traditional sized cards and stayed away from strip cards or caricature cards.

The Hawaii playing card decks were produced over many years.

Here's one with the card dated 1910-1911:

funky 1910-11 Hawaiian Souvenir Playing Cards North Saanich & Sidney , Victoria

owen21 · 01-08-2015, 10:04 PM

Love the list...what a great starting point

sthoemke · 07-29-2015, 07:36 PM

Picked up a Duke Kahanamoku playing card. I've wanted one of these for awhile.

From what I can figure, it was first printed before the 1913 Pan Handle Scrap card, but was printed over the course of several years.

quackhead · 03-12-2021, 02:04 AM

Bumping this up. Thought it was a good list to reference.

Phil Mickelson Diamond Card not getting much love, or is it not an "official" rookie card.

Mahomie · 03-12-2021, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sthoemke

Bruce Lee is in several 1966 Green Hornet sets.

Those are great PC cards (I have a few, but they're in pretty rough shape).

I also have a stack of his cards from the 1974 Yamakatsu set - might start a Bruce Lee collection thread once I get everything scanned.

alphaomegas · 03-12-2021, 07:45 AM

Collect what you like don’t treat it like a investment could drop in price just as fast as they are cardboard.

Arazi4442 · 03-12-2021, 11:38 AM

I started pursuing a PC close to the list in the OP before I knew Eagles post existed. Pretty fun project, most cards were very affordable for years, but many have exploded in the last couple months, just like everything else.

Really fun mix of super rare to mass produced and endless discussions over what is a “Rookie Card”. ��

Sutantoj · 03-12-2021, 12:10 PM

Beckham Rookie is 1995 LCD

peterose4hof · 03-12-2021, 01:41 PM

Anyone know which card is Vince McMahon's 1st?

Arazi4442 · 03-12-2021, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Anyone know which card is Vince McMahon's 1st?

This is the earliest one I see. But just from a PSA pop report search, can’t be sure it’s his first.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Comic-...-/233077972130

Stat Monsters · 03-12-2021, 08:45 PM

Regarding

UFC/MMA
Bruce Lee 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon

Bruce Lee appeared in the 1966 Donruss "Green Hornet" TV series of cards as "Kato", so if the 1974 card is Bruce Lee in "The Way of the Dragon" as a movie card, as opposed to a card depicting the actor, Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee, then this series may qualify as pre-dating the Yamakatsu release.

In relation, there's also some other Green Hornet cards, including a deck of playing cards with photos that I believe PSA acknowledges and grades that came out in the 1960's.

brewtown107 · 03-12-2021, 11:24 PM

Maybe Roddick is a typo, and should be 2003? Pretty sure there was no 2001 Netpro release.

1977 Cloth · 03-16-2021, 04:42 PM

Connors and other greats have 1979 Venorlandus

Tom Watson
Chris Evert

JIMG28 · 03-16-2021, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Maybe Roddick is a typo, and should be 2003? Pretty sure there was no 2001 Netpro release.

2001 NetPro Andy Roddick ROOKIE & 1st Officially Licensed Tennis Autograph Card!
In 2001 we revamped the NETPRO brand and signed Andy Roddick to a contract that enabled us to produce the first ever officially licensed autographed tennis card. The autograph features a bold signature and is limited to 999. This beautifully designed card was an instant hit when initially released. The regular unsigned variation has a print run of 10,000.

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Tonic3 · 03-17-2021, 10:00 AM

The list is also missing the Mia Hamm SIFK's card.

It would be interesting to start just a SIFK thread. I recently went through a bunch of SIFK cards (entire sheets actually) I saved from when I was a kid and a good number of the players/sports depicted likely have no other card made for them. Of course some of the names are pretty obscure which is likely whey there's no other cards made of them. I suspect Sports Illustrated for Kids likely made the only known trading card of a number of athletes which is pretty cool.

05-25-2014, 11:02 PM	#1
Eagles33 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 134	non major sport rookie card checklist (showcase) I have posted this before on the psa board but figured some people here might find it interesting. I grew up collecting football cards. Mostly 80s and early 90s. i got back into the hobby a few years ago and just started picking up rookie cards i never got when i was a kid. I never got into the modern inserts and can't keep track of trillion different sets that come out so pretty much just look to pick up topps or topps chrome rookie cards. Anyways.. with ebay collecting became pretty easy. I could pretty much find any card im looking for on any given day on ebay. It was just a matter if i wanted to spend the money or not. I got a little board with it so I started looking for superstars from sports that are not as popular. I'm not even a big fan of most of these sports but like the idea of getting the "rookies" of the greatest in all these different sports. I tried to get representation from all different sports. its been pretty fun putting this together. Just wondering what people thought of the checklist and to see if i was missing anyone obviouse. popularity kinda trumped actually performance.. like Roddick making list for tennis.. I'm sure there are better but not as popular. Someday I'll get around to adding scans of the one I have. Im close to getting all of these... But I'm constantly adding to it. Bowling Player Year Set Don Carter 1972 PBA Tour Bowler Photos Dick Weber 1972 PBA Tour Bowler Photos Pete Weber 1990 Kingpins PBA Boxing John Sullivan 1887 Allen & Ginter Jack Johnson 1909 Ogdens Jack Dempsey 1922 Felix Potin Joe Louis 1935 United Tobacco Sugar Ray Robinson 1948 Leaf Rocky Marciano 1951 Topps Ringside Muhammad Ali 1965 Lampo - has other earlier issues that are hand cut or over sized.. but this is my personal pick. Sonny Liston 1966 Panini Campioni Dello Sport Joe Frazier 1964 Bobbie Bubble Gum Tokio Roberto Duran 1973 Panini Campioni Dello Sport George Foreman 1973 Panini Campioni Dello Sport Sugar Ray Leonard 1981 Panini Sport Superstars Mike Tyson 1986 Panini Supersport Italian Evander Holyfield 1986 Browns Boxing Roy Jones Jr. 1991 Kayo Floyd Mayweather Jr. 1997 Brown's Boxing Manny Pacquiao 1999 Word Boxing Golf Walter Hagen 1926 Spalding Champions Bobby Jones 1926 Lambert & Butler Robert T. Ben Hogan 1951 Berk Ross Arnold Palmer 1965 Bancroft Tiddlers Giants Of Sport Jack Nicklaus 1971 Barratt & Co Famous Sportsmen Payne Stewart 1983 Miller Press Greg Norman 1986 Panini Supersport Uk Phil Mickelson 1992 Diamond Sports Tiger Woods 1996 S.I. For Kids Horse Racing Man o' War 1920 Preakness (Ticket) Sea Biscut 1937 (Ticket) War Admiral 1937 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Citation 1948 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Secretariat 1973 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Seattle Slew 1977 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Affirmed 1978 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Zenyatta 2008 Breeders Cup (Ticket) Jockeys Willie Shoemaker 1955 Kentucky Derby (Ticket) Mike Smith 1991 Horse Star Jockey Calvin Borel 1992 Horse Star Jockey John Velazques 1992 Horse Star Jockey UFC/MMA Bruce Lee 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon Chuck Norris 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon Series 2 Ken Shamrock 1995 BBM Randy Couture 1998 Culture House - Asics Heros of Wrestling Chuck Liddell 2003 Sherdog Royce Gracie 2006 Pride Card Collection Olympics John Weissmuller 1926 Spalding Champions Jesse Owens 1935 Muratti Cigarettes Roger Bannister 1955 Abc Minors British Athletes Mark Spitz 1968 Panini Daniel Gable 1972 Panini Munich Greg Louganis 1981 Panini Sport Superstars Carl Lewis 1985 Poulain Greats of the Game Lance Armstrong 1992 Impel Olympicard Michael Phelps 2003 Czech Stadion Apolo Anton Ohno 2004 Leaf Fans of the Game Usain Bolt 2008 SI For Kids Racing Mario Andretti 1969 Panini Campioni Dello Sport Richard Petty 1972 Stp Dale Earnhardt 1983 Uno Jeff Gordon 1987 World Of Outlaws Michael Schumacher 1992 Grid Formula One Valentino Rossi 1997 Edigamma I Grandi Campioni Dello Sport Jimmie Johnson 2000 Sp Authentic Soccer Pele 1958 Ave Ltda. Colecao Titulares (could also choose from many other issues from 1958) George Best 1964 Barratt & Co. Ltd Famous Footballers Diego Maradona 1978 Figurita Crack Mundial Roberto Baggio 1985 Panini Calciatori David Beckham 1995 Raven Manchester Utd. Red Devils Cristiano Ronaldo 2002 Panini Mega Craques Leo Messi 2004 Spanish Panini Megacracks Tennis Rene Lacoste 1926 Lambert & Butler Fred Perry 1931 W.A. & A.C. Churchman Sporting Celebrities Rod Laver 1968 Mira Arthur Ashe 1966 Ruiz Romero Fútbol Tenis Ciclismo Bjorn Borg 1974 Panini Sport Vedettes Jimmy Connors 1981 Panini Sport Superstars John Mcenroe 1981 Panini Sport Superstars Andre Agassi 1987 Panini Pete Sampras 1991 Netpro Andy Roddick 2001 Netpro Roger Federer 2003 Netpro Rafael Nadal 2003 Netpro Wrestling Andre The Giant 1974 Yamakatsu New Japan Pro Wrestling Ric Flair 1982 Wrestling All-Stars Series A Hulk Hogan. 1981 Popy Roddy Piper 1985 O-Pee-Chee Wwf Pro Wrestling Stars The Road Warriors 1985 Wrestling All Stars Randy Savage 1985 O-Pee-Chee Series 2 The Brittish Bulldogs 1985 O-Pee-Chee Series 2 Bret Hart 1987 O-Pee-Chee Wwf Pro Wrestling Stars Sting 1987 Wonderama Test Ultimate Warrior 1989 WWF Super Stars Of Wrestling Series 3 Demolition 1989 WWF Super Stars Of Wrestling Series 1 Steve Austin 1991 Cromy The Rock 1998 WWF Superstarz XGames Duke Kahanamoku 1913 Pan Handle Scrap World's Champion Athletes Evel Knievel 1974 Evel Knievel Topps Tony Hawk 1990 SI For Kids Kelly Slater 1987 Astroboyz Eddie Aikau 1987 Astroboyz Shaun White 2003 SI For Kids Other Minnesota Fats 1965 Book Of Pool Billiards Donald Bradman 1930 John Player & Sons Cricket Sachin Tendulkar 1992 ProSport Cricket Cachin (Jose Uriarte) 1984 Berensens' Hartford Jai Alai Gary Gait 1993 MILL Lacrosse Lacrosse Gareth Edwards 1979 Venorlandus Rugby Jonah Lomu 1995 Dynamic Marketing All Blacks Rugby Francois Pienaar 1992 Sports Deck Rugby Karch Kiraly 1989 SI For Kids Voleyball Last edited by Eagles33; 05-26-2014 at 09:20 PM.

05-25-2014, 11:50 PM	#2
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,475 sthoemke sthoemke	Great list!!! Not trying to start a debate, but just noting a few earlier cards: Bruce Lee is in several 1966 Green Hornet sets. Duke Kahanamoku was on a earlier playing card (1909?) John Sullivan has earlier cards: 1880 Duke Sons, 1887 Old Judge N172, 1888 Spaulding & Merrick N386 Andre the Giant has a 1973 Dimanche/Derniere Heure card (as Jean Ferre) Ultimate Warrior has 1988 Quaker Oats card, as well as WWF playing cards. Lance Armstrong is in a earlier USPS card set. Tony Hawk's SI card is from 1990 __________________ [signature goes here]

05-25-2014, 11:54 PM	#3
NickM Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,353	For Olympics, I'd include Rafer Johnson, Nadia Comaneci, Olga Korbut, Mary Lou Retton, Wyomia Tyus, Wilma Rudolph, and everyone in the IAAF Hall of Fame who has cards - and probably a lot more if I gave it more thought. For soccer, everyone in the 18-member International Football Hall of Champions should be in. PSA has the list as a registry set. For auto racing, A.J. Foyt, Al Unser, Bobby Unser, Cale Yarborough, David Pearson, Bobby Allison, Darrell Waltrip, John Force, Don Garlits, Shirley Muldowney, Don Prudhomme, Niki Lauda, Juan Manuel Fangio (if he has a card), Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna, Sebastian Vettel, Jack Brabham, and Jackie Stewart. For wrestling, Bruno Sammartino, Superstar Billy Graham, the Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, and Mick Foley (one or more of his characters' rookies). For other sports, I know Geoff Hunt (squash) is in 1979 Golden Wonder and may have other cards. I have no idea if other squash stars have cards. Steve Timmons is a must for volleyball. For tennis, women's tennis should be added - Wills Moody, Court Smith, King, Navratilova, Evert, Graf, Seles, and the Williams sisters are musts, and Sharapova's popularity suggests adding her. Last edited by NickM; 05-26-2014 at 12:51 AM. Reason: additions

05-26-2014, 01:00 AM	#4
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,475 sthoemke sthoemke	Ali (aka Cassius Clay) - 1960 Hemmets Journal (yeah, hand-cut) or 1960 Exhibit Supply, produced over several years, but I think sepia green is considered the earliest, if not the toughtest. __________________ [signature goes here]

05-26-2014, 01:02 AM	#5
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,475 sthoemke sthoemke	Jack Johnson has 1908 T226 Red Sun and 1908 Health & Strength Postcard. __________________ [signature goes here]

05-26-2014, 01:12 AM	#6
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,475 sthoemke sthoemke	Evel Knievel has a 1971 lobby card set __________________ [signature goes here]

05-26-2014, 09:16 AM	#7
Eagles33 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 134	Thanks for the feedback guys. Does anyone have more info on the evel kneviel card the lance Armstrong cards that were mentioned?

05-26-2014, 09:37 PM	#10
Eagles33 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 134	Cool thanks for the info. Ill look into some of these. I like learning about new sets and athletes. I'm pretty sure the playing card set with duke Kahanamoku is from the 20s. One was on eBay about a month ago but advertised as from 1909. I'll look into the Jack Johnson and Sullivan cards that were mentioned too. The Ali rookie is a never ending debate.. I decided to go with the lampo. Its just a personal preference but I guess if I had to defend it.. It's the first pack issued card.. That I'm aware of anyways. I also don't like the 1947 Cummings cards or sports casters. I tried to pick traditional sized cards and stayed away from strip cards or caricature cards.

01-08-2015, 10:04 PM	#12
owen21 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sydney Posts: 119 roy2053	Love the list...what a great starting point

07-29-2015, 07:36 PM	#13
sthoemke Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,475 sthoemke sthoemke	Picked up a Duke Kahanamoku playing card. I've wanted one of these for awhile. From what I can figure, it was first printed before the 1913 Pan Handle Scrap card, but was printed over the course of several years. Attached Thumbnails __________________ [signature goes here]

03-12-2021, 02:04 AM	#14
quackhead Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: CA Posts: 4,859	Bumping this up. Thought it was a good list to reference. Phil Mickelson Diamond Card not getting much love, or is it not an "official" rookie card.

03-12-2021, 07:45 AM	#16
alphaomegas Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,025	Collect what you like don’t treat it like a investment could drop in price just as fast as they are cardboard.

03-12-2021, 11:38 AM	#17
Arazi4442 Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 258 gabrielcaine	I started pursuing a PC close to the list in the OP before I knew Eagles post existed. Pretty fun project, most cards were very affordable for years, but many have exploded in the last couple months, just like everything else. Really fun mix of super rare to mass produced and endless discussions over what is a “Rookie Card”. �� Last edited by Arazi4442; 03-12-2021 at 11:40 AM.

03-12-2021, 12:10 PM	#18
Sutantoj Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,351	Beckham Rookie is 1995 LCD

03-12-2021, 01:41 PM	#19
peterose4hof Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,308 peterose4hof	Anyone know which card is Vince McMahon's 1st?

03-12-2021, 08:45 PM	#21
Stat Monsters Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,504	Regarding UFC/MMA Bruce Lee 1974 Yamakatsu Way of the Dragon Bruce Lee appeared in the 1966 Donruss "Green Hornet" TV series of cards as "Kato", so if the 1974 card is Bruce Lee in "The Way of the Dragon" as a movie card, as opposed to a card depicting the actor, Bruce Lee as Bruce Lee, then this series may qualify as pre-dating the Yamakatsu release. In relation, there's also some other Green Hornet cards, including a deck of playing cards with photos that I believe PSA acknowledges and grades that came out in the 1960's.

03-12-2021, 11:24 PM	#22
brewtown107 Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 2,232 brewtown107	Maybe Roddick is a typo, and should be 2003? Pretty sure there was no 2001 Netpro release.

03-16-2021, 04:42 PM	#23
1977 Cloth Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,471 ljb17	Connors and other greats have 1979 Venorlandus Tom Watson Chris Evert __________________ sportscardidiots.com

03-17-2021, 10:00 AM	#25
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,428	The list is also missing the Mia Hamm SIFK's card. It would be interesting to start just a SIFK thread. I recently went through a bunch of SIFK cards (entire sheets actually) I saved from when I was a kid and a good number of the players/sports depicted likely have no other card made for them. Of course some of the names are pretty obscure which is likely whey there's no other cards made of them. I suspect Sports Illustrated for Kids likely made the only known trading card of a number of athletes which is pretty cool.