The Playbook "Player Worn" Shield for Wilson was bad enough, but...............??????

zonacats8 · 10-29-2014, 04:26 PM

They do it for Eli too?

I can understand the Wilson as they may just have a few jerseys left over from just 2 years ago, but Eli was a rookie so long ago, no way they'd have any left from him.

And the shield doesn't even appear to be on a part of a jersey that's a collar, just on a random piece of fabric.

2014 Panini Playbook Jerseys NFL Shield Black 15 Eli Manning WOW 1 1 | eBay

The Card Album · 10-29-2014, 04:36 PM

They have players wear jerseys at autography sessions, or sometimes just tell then to do it and mail them back with their signed cards.

This opens up the door for the garbage patches they put on fabtic attached with a safety pin.

zonacats8 · 10-29-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Card Album

They have players wear jerseys at autography sessions, or sometimes just tell then to do it and mail them back with their signed cards.

This opens up the door for the garbage patches they put on fabtic attached with a safety pin.

Really?

Honestly never noticed that for guys who'd been in the league this long, thought anything past the first few years of cards for a player were all game used (or at least "game used" haha)

azviking101 · 10-29-2014, 04:46 PM

That is one ugly card. The left side looks like something one of those custom guys make in their garage.

deltapi1049 · 10-29-2014, 04:51 PM

Probably from Pants that they cut it up and pasted on.

OneDerBoy83 · 10-29-2014, 05:06 PM

Those types of logos are on shorts, tshirts, practice unis, towels...pretty much anything you can name that a player wears/uses. That's why they state that the items are not from any particular game or event.

Jackg1980 · 10-29-2014, 05:12 PM

They wear a dozen jerseys with about 200 nfl shield logos on each of them while they play a game of candy crush.

Seahawks fan · 10-29-2014, 05:38 PM

Topps, Upperdeck, and Panini all do this... its nothing new except for the fact that as of late Panini has had alot more game used items than the other companies. Its pretty lame

zonacats8 · 10-29-2014, 05:50 PM

I just don't think I've seen a "player worn" shield like this for a 10th year card, usually from the first few years and just because they still have them sittig around from their rookie year still

But maybe I just haven't noticed it before because it's usually in a window cut to the shield and not a wide open window with a shield just sewn to a random piece of fabric

phinzphan1372 · 10-29-2014, 06:17 PM

Ill go with a logo from a hat… it does say "Material" …. like a few posts mentioned before … it could be from a towel, t-shirt, hat, sweat pants….etc

cush2push · 10-29-2014, 08:57 PM

Its off the old Reebok Jerseys which could have been up until 2012 when Nike took over the Jerseys

cardkid94 · 10-29-2014, 09:56 PM

Guy wants $550 when the last manning shield sold for $200. Just crazy.

wagoss122 · 10-29-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cush2push

Its off the old Reebok Jerseys which could have been up until 2012 when Nike took over the Jerseys

Except the shield is from before 2007 when it changed to 8 stars

cking · 10-29-2014, 11:26 PM

This is exactly why I sold every single "game used" card in my collection over the last year or so with the exception of my Fred Dryer. And I only kept that because it has an auto attached to it.

As soon as I find an auto with no jersey it will be sold as well. I don't have the time to do 4 hours of research before I buy a game used card.

Panini could put anything they want in cards and no one would know the difference.

Topps, still do this day refuses to give an explanation as to what "authentic memorabilia" really means.

They have flat out been asked "Does it mean game used" and they refuse to reply.

Not to mention the Donald Cerrone incident. Go ahead and read this short twitter exchange. You will be cringing after. Cerrone himself addressed the matter.

https://twitter.com/Cowboycerrone/st...37125895110656

Also look at post #30 in this thread and form your own opinion of the autos.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...s-legit-2.html

sideshowbob · 10-29-2014, 11:39 PM

I was looking into this a little bit on ebay and I noticed a lot of weirdness with the player-worn/game-worn language in Playbook. There are down & dirty patch booklets of Romo, Marshawn Lynch, Vernon Davis, and Dez Bryant that say player-worn material, but they have grass and dirt stains. I only found one down & dirty booklet that says game-worn, a DeMarco Murray. The down & dirty set is supposed to be unwashed game used jerseys that have grass and dirt stains, so the player-worn language on some of them doesn't make any sense. Panini must have messed up in their player-worn/game-worn distinctions for the veteran material cards in Playbook.

cking · 10-30-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sideshowbob

I was looking into this a little bit on ebay and I noticed a lot of weirdness with the player-worn/game-worn language in Playbook. There are down & dirty patch booklets of Romo, Marshawn Lynch, Vernon Davis, and Dez Bryant that say player-worn material, but they have grass and dirt stains. I only found one down & dirty booklet that says game-worn, a DeMarco Murray. The down & dirty set is supposed to be unwashed game used jerseys that have grass and dirt stains, so the player-worn language on some of them doesn't make any sense. Panini must have messed up in their player-worn/game-worn distinctions for the veteran material cards in Playbook.

Or, they had the player where them for 10 seconds at a signing and then took the jersey out to the back yard and rubbed it in the grass and dirt.

If they did do this, no one would know the difference or ever be able to prove it.

bigaust001 · 10-30-2014, 05:50 AM

Eli, Giants ran fake ?game-worn? gear scam: lawsuit | New York Post

I mean, I'll leave this here...

benshobbies · 10-30-2014, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaust001

Eli, Giants ran fake ?game-worn? gear scam: lawsuit | New York Post

I mean, I'll leave this here...

What was the verdict of this case?!

NY Post rarely lies about things sports oriented. They usually are on top of the game with things nobody else wants to publish in the sports market.

I heard about 2 years ago they crashed a huge Merchandise ring selling "Game Used Items" to Topps & Upper Deck and they never commented on whether any of the items from this merchandise ring was included into cards.

When I sell I rarely list something as "Game Used". I do every now and then...but most of the time use the terms "Rookie Jersey" Or "Relic".

Edit: Please read the details of this case: http://www.fbi.gov/chicago/press-rel...ts-memorabilia

micorps1 · 10-30-2014, 07:26 AM

Wow always wondered about this. Gives me less confidence in buying 1/1 logos now.

10-29-2014, 04:26 PM	#1
zonacats8 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 16,147	The Playbook "Player Worn" Shield for Wilson was bad enough, but...............?????? They do it for Eli too? I can understand the Wilson as they may just have a few jerseys left over from just 2 years ago, but Eli was a rookie so long ago, no way they'd have any left from him. And the shield doesn't even appear to be on a part of a jersey that's a collar, just on a random piece of fabric. 2014 Panini Playbook Jerseys NFL Shield Black 15 Eli Manning WOW 1 1 \| eBay __________________ PC: Carolina Panthers and University of Arizona players, especially in UofA uniform Jonathan Stewart PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/jonathan-stewart-pc Star Lotulelei PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/star-lotulelei-pc

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OneDerBoy83 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,772 tenacious_d_69 OneDerBoy83	Those types of logos are on shorts, tshirts, practice unis, towels...pretty much anything you can name that a player wears/uses. That's why they state that the items are not from any particular game or event. __________________ Links to Clay Matthews Autos & Packers PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/onederboy83/a/clay-matthews-autographs#!page=2 https://sportscardalbum.com/u/onederboy83/a/green-bay-packers

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10-29-2014, 05:38 PM	#8
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10-29-2014, 04:36 PM	#2
The Card Album Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,561	They have players wear jerseys at autography sessions, or sometimes just tell then to do it and mail them back with their signed cards. This opens up the door for the garbage patches they put on fabtic attached with a safety pin.

10-29-2014, 04:51 PM	#5
deltapi1049 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,801 deltapi1049	Probably from Pants that they cut it up and pasted on.

10-29-2014, 05:50 PM	#9
zonacats8 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 16,147	I just don't think I've seen a "player worn" shield like this for a 10th year card, usually from the first few years and just because they still have them sittig around from their rookie year still But maybe I just haven't noticed it before because it's usually in a window cut to the shield and not a wide open window with a shield just sewn to a random piece of fabric __________________ PC: Carolina Panthers and University of Arizona players, especially in UofA uniform Jonathan Stewart PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/jonathan-stewart-pc Star Lotulelei PC: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/zonacats8/a/star-lotulelei-pc

10-29-2014, 06:17 PM	#10
phinzphan1372 Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Outlaw Nation, RI 401 Posts: 3,522	Ill go with a logo from a hat… it does say "Material" …. like a few posts mentioned before … it could be from a towel, t-shirt, hat, sweat pants….etc

10-29-2014, 08:57 PM	#11
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10-29-2014, 09:56 PM	#12
cardkid94 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 439	Guy wants $550 when the last manning shield sold for $200. Just crazy. __________________ Follow me on Instagram to see my collection! @Njgems94

10-29-2014, 11:26 PM	#14
cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 16,263	This is exactly why I sold every single "game used" card in my collection over the last year or so with the exception of my Fred Dryer. And I only kept that because it has an auto attached to it. As soon as I find an auto with no jersey it will be sold as well. I don't have the time to do 4 hours of research before I buy a game used card. Panini could put anything they want in cards and no one would know the difference. Topps, still do this day refuses to give an explanation as to what "authentic memorabilia" really means. They have flat out been asked "Does it mean game used" and they refuse to reply. Not to mention the Donald Cerrone incident. Go ahead and read this short twitter exchange. You will be cringing after. Cerrone himself addressed the matter. https://twitter.com/Cowboycerrone/st...37125895110656 Also look at post #30 in this thread and form your own opinion of the autos. http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/f...s-legit-2.html

10-29-2014, 11:39 PM	#15
sideshowbob Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 181	I was looking into this a little bit on ebay and I noticed a lot of weirdness with the player-worn/game-worn language in Playbook. There are down & dirty patch booklets of Romo, Marshawn Lynch, Vernon Davis, and Dez Bryant that say player-worn material, but they have grass and dirt stains. I only found one down & dirty booklet that says game-worn, a DeMarco Murray. The down & dirty set is supposed to be unwashed game used jerseys that have grass and dirt stains, so the player-worn language on some of them doesn't make any sense. Panini must have messed up in their player-worn/game-worn distinctions for the veteran material cards in Playbook.

10-30-2014, 05:50 AM	#17
bigaust001 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Saltville/Charlottesville Posts: 4,244	Eli, Giants ran fake ?game-worn? gear scam: lawsuit \| New York Post I mean, I'll leave this here... __________________ PC Players: BILLY WAGNER, JIM ABBOTT, JASON KENDALL, HOF GAME USED/PATCHES, MOST YANKEES Buying any and all Jim Abbott, Billy Wagner, and Jason Kendall inserts, jerseys, and autos!!

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micorps1 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Fountain, Co Posts: 323 micorps micorps	Wow always wondered about this. Gives me less confidence in buying 1/1 logos now. __________________ ISO: McGwire/Sosa/Bonds Auto/GU's; McDavid RC's; Jung Hoo Lee