Ebay issue.

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 01:15 PM

So I just got a return request from a guy I just sold a Garoppolo to... Sold for $185. He just got it and said that three corners were damaged.. (Complete bull) the card had one corner with a small bit of white showing. He also said that I shipped carelessly. That right there is complete crap. I sent the card in a toploader, 2 decoys, in a team bag, in a bubble mailer.... I have the particular listing as "no returns accepted" what can I do? I can deny all this correct, then he could file an item not described right? By the time the card comes back it'll be a $75 card cutting my profits more than double... Any one have or know anything I can do?

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 01:24 PM

Also, mine sold at $185, which was the first. The next one sold @ $158... Tell me this doesn't sound like buyers remorse???

bojesphob · 01-14-2015, 01:27 PM

From the sounds of it, you'd be better off not fighting it, refunding, getting the card back and trying to resell. It might be buyers remorse, but in the end, if he's not happy at all, eBay will side with him. Sucks, but that's how eBay operates anymore.

pejc300 · 01-14-2015, 01:28 PM

Ask him to send pics. What he thinks are damaged corners might be different than what you think.

jewcer2k5 · 01-14-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

Ask him to send pics. What he thinks are damaged corners might be different than what you think.

Sadly it doesnt matter.

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 01:32 PM

It sucks because I drained my PP to pay a huge amount on my credit card. Money isn't even in my account anymore.

redsoxx11 · 01-14-2015, 01:33 PM

write a bunch of jiberish into google translate, translate it into Russian. Send him that message but put "...OR ELSE, OK BUDDY" at the end. I think he'll change his tune.

BoxBreaker72 · 01-14-2015, 01:34 PM

You have no chance at winning. Just refund and move on.

It sucks, but until another company decides sellers are human we are all bent over for the buyer.

NobodysXHero · 01-14-2015, 01:37 PM

Damn, it sold as a buy it now too. Tough break.

maddbeaver · 01-14-2015, 01:39 PM

Almost the same exact thing happened to me last month. Sold an encased Flawless card, but it showed up cracked to the buyer. One thing I learned though is that eBay will still charge you the fees for the sale. I had to call to get those refunded as a one time "courtesy."

ryknow216 · 01-14-2015, 01:39 PM

That sucks man. Not much you can do about it even though you said no returns accepted. Damages I'm sure never apply to returns or not. Just make sure he sends it back first. I'm sorry dude. I know how you feel

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 01:49 PM

Awesome. He's saying the corners are creased.

jlzinck · 01-14-2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wadedaniel84

Any one have or know anything I can do?

In this case? Bend over and take it.
Buyers remorse. Can buy the same card a week later for $30-$50 less.

This is the risk you run when selling things right out of the gate.

Can we please have the buyers name?

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 02:05 PM

I'm not going to put him on blast. It's looking now more so that it was damaged in transit. Of course it had to be the $185 card instead of the $10 card. Murphys law

jlzinck · 01-14-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wadedaniel84

I'm not going to put him on blast. It's looking now more so that it was damaged in transit. Of course it had to be the $185 card instead of the $10 card. Murphys law

OK so when you receive it back in the condition that you sent it in he will have had time to F over quite a few more sellers!

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 02:18 PM

Nothingbutthebestforme

xDomePatrolx · 01-14-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wadedaniel84

Nothingbutthebestforme

invalid user name

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xDomePatrolx

invalid user name

nothingbuthebestforme

hreed2 · 01-14-2015, 04:43 PM

Just a heads up, marking that you don't accept returns doesn't matter at all. You have to accept returns otherwise there's nothing stopping a seller from selling an expensive item and shipping it really damaged or a box of rocks and then just saying "no returns". I'm not saying you did this or would ever do this but accepting returns is mandatory, I don't even know why they have that as an option to change.

BGT Masters · 01-14-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hreed2

Just a heads up, marking that you don't accept returns doesn't matter at all. You have to accept returns otherwise there's nothing stopping a seller from selling an expensive item and shipping it really damaged or a box of rocks and then just saying "no returns". I'm not saying you did this or would ever do this but accepting returns is mandatory, I don't even know why they have that as an option to change.

This is not true at all. There is a reason for not accepting returns. If you do not accept returns ebay will not force you to accept them if the buyer changes their mind and no longer wants/needs the item purchased. However it would then open you up to the buyer lying about the item condition once it arrives.

Tvanho · 01-14-2015, 05:44 PM

In the case of Sent Item Not as Described, you will lose the case as a seller. Regardless if you accept returns or not.

MeetJSquared · 01-14-2015, 05:47 PM

Was this Chrome?

Seem to be a lot of extremely nitpicky buyers for Chrome, especially on the Baseball side.

BirdLaw · 01-14-2015, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wadedaniel84

I'm not going to put him on blast. It's looking now more so that it was purposely damaged so he could have "evidence". Of course it had to be the $185 card instead of the $10 card. Murphys law

FTFY. Put him on blast.

wadedaniel84 · 01-14-2015, 06:43 PM

On a side note... I used decoys on both sides in a team bag. Has anyone EVER had an issue with creasing in this case?

BoxBreaker72 · 01-14-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wadedaniel84

On a side note... I used decoys on both sides in a team bag. Has anyone EVER had an issue with creasing in this case?

No, this would be a first. Sounds like he damaged the card to get his refund and you eat the loss and get a bad card in return.

Please, someone invent real competition to paypal/ebay.

01-14-2015, 01:15 PM	#1
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	Ebay issue. So I just got a return request from a guy I just sold a Garoppolo to... Sold for $185. He just got it and said that three corners were damaged.. (Complete bull) the card had one corner with a small bit of white showing. He also said that I shipped carelessly. That right there is complete crap. I sent the card in a toploader, 2 decoys, in a team bag, in a bubble mailer.... I have the particular listing as "no returns accepted" what can I do? I can deny all this correct, then he could file an item not described right? By the time the card comes back it'll be a $75 card cutting my profits more than double... Any one have or know anything I can do? __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here. Last edited by wadedaniel84; 01-14-2015 at 01:17 PM.

01-14-2015, 01:24 PM	#2
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	Also, mine sold at $185, which was the first. The next one sold @ $158... Tell me this doesn't sound like buyers remorse??? __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.

01-14-2015, 01:32 PM	#6
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	It sucks because I drained my PP to pay a huge amount on my credit card. Money isn't even in my account anymore. __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.

01-14-2015, 01:33 PM	#7
redsoxx11 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Blowout HQ basement Posts: 3,773 Redsoxx11 Redsoxx11	write a bunch of jiberish into google translate, translate it into Russian. Send him that message but put "...OR ELSE, OK BUDDY" at the end. I think he'll change his tune. __________________ Collecting smiles

01-14-2015, 01:39 PM	#10
maddbeaver Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Tampa Posts: 249 maddbeaver727	Almost the same exact thing happened to me last month. Sold an encased Flawless card, but it showed up cracked to the buyer. One thing I learned though is that eBay will still charge you the fees for the sale. I had to call to get those refunded as a one time "courtesy." __________________ PC: Tampa Bay Buccaneers - FSU Seminoles LF: 2014 Prizm Black Finite Mike Evans Auto & 2013 NT Colossal Jersey Number Signatures

01-14-2015, 01:27 PM	#3
bojesphob Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 3,785 bojesphob	From the sounds of it, you'd be better off not fighting it, refunding, getting the card back and trying to resell. It might be buyers remorse, but in the end, if he's not happy at all, eBay will side with him. Sucks, but that's how eBay operates anymore.

01-14-2015, 01:28 PM	#4
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,834	Ask him to send pics. What he thinks are damaged corners might be different than what you think.

01-14-2015, 01:34 PM	#8
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	You have no chance at winning. Just refund and move on. It sucks, but until another company decides sellers are human we are all bent over for the buyer.

01-14-2015, 01:37 PM	#9
NobodysXHero Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 483 newbiejustin justinwilliams140	Damn, it sold as a buy it now too. Tough break.

01-14-2015, 01:39 PM	#11
ryknow216 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Californee way Posts: 1,874	That sucks man. Not much you can do about it even though you said no returns accepted. Damages I'm sure never apply to returns or not. Just make sure he sends it back first. I'm sorry dude. I know how you feel

01-14-2015, 01:49 PM	#12
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	Awesome. He's saying the corners are creased. __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.

01-14-2015, 02:05 PM	#14
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	I'm not going to put him on blast. It's looking now more so that it was damaged in transit. Of course it had to be the $185 card instead of the $10 card. Murphys law __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.

01-14-2015, 02:18 PM	#16
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	Nothingbutthebestforme __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.

01-14-2015, 04:43 PM	#19
hreed2 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,580	Just a heads up, marking that you don't accept returns doesn't matter at all. You have to accept returns otherwise there's nothing stopping a seller from selling an expensive item and shipping it really damaged or a box of rocks and then just saying "no returns". I'm not saying you did this or would ever do this but accepting returns is mandatory, I don't even know why they have that as an option to change.

01-14-2015, 05:44 PM	#21
Tvanho Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,553	In the case of Sent Item Not as Described, you will lose the case as a seller. Regardless if you accept returns or not.

01-14-2015, 05:47 PM	#22
MeetJSquared Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 10,336	Was this Chrome? Seem to be a lot of extremely nitpicky buyers for Chrome, especially on the Baseball side. __________________ Looking for Manny Machado 2022 & 2023 Definitive 1/1s

01-14-2015, 06:43 PM	#24
wadedaniel84 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Antioch, Illinois Posts: 7,320 wadedaniel2011 wddaniel	On a side note... I used decoys on both sides in a team bag. Has anyone EVER had an issue with creasing in this case? __________________ Nobody buys sh!t anymore here.