Marcus Smart Long Term Upside?

mwash1983 · 05-09-2015, 08:39 AM

What do you guys think here, is he worth buying up a few autos in the offseason?

LeonfromNC · 05-09-2015, 08:44 AM

I like him as a player. Is he going to be a superstar? Maybe, but he's in the right market... Just look at what Boston did for Rondos cards when he was at his prime

chitownbears22 · 05-09-2015, 08:48 AM

I think he is a mid-level guard with very little upside. He is not a guy that will ever be an elite PG IMO. Short term starter, long term bench PG.

sOuLspin · 05-09-2015, 01:15 PM

But he is going to be great defender! I also thinking about picking up some nice RC high ends.

Rareairx23 · 05-09-2015, 03:36 PM

Bostons my team man, but I just dont really think he is a superstar point guard in the making, which I hope that im completely wrong. Hes a good defender but not much of an offensive threat at tis point

crazymj · 05-09-2015, 03:44 PM

Maybe kinda like Avery Bradley?

Giantrobot · 05-09-2015, 04:06 PM

Tony Allen with better passing/scoring skills. Possible fringe All-Star in a few years. I don't see superstar potential, though.

dasiegel · 05-09-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymj

Maybe kinda like Avery Bradley?

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Originally Posted by Giantrobot

Tony Allen with better passing/scoring skills. Possible fringe All-Star in a few years. I don't see superstar potential, though.

fair comparisons

BBallCT · 05-09-2015, 04:57 PM

Nice upside, pulled a dunk against the Raps that made me go nuts. Better shooter than I thought. Could be an 18-20PPG, 5-5-2.

Good enough for me

suki24 · 05-09-2015, 04:59 PM

Smart has some upside but not much. Definitely worth a few autos.

IamRalpho · 05-09-2015, 05:20 PM

Not sure how you guys can say he has little upside? He was a consensus top pick if he came out in 2013, mighta been #1. His defense is already elite, if he can get back to driving to the rim and score....hes an All Star.

Will he reach that? Who knows, but to say he has little upside is kinda foolish since he just turned 21.

fezziwig · 05-09-2015, 05:37 PM

Not sure he has the focus and mental toughness to leverage his physical talents to the max. He's seems on his way to becoming another JR Smith, and I think Isiaih Thomas might alpha that team away from him as well.

IamRalpho · 05-09-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fezziwig

Not sure he has the focus and mental toughness to leverage his physical talents to the max. He's seems on his way to becoming another JR Smith, and I think Isiaih Thomas might alpha that team away from him as well.

Isiah Thomas is a mess defensively, Stevens will never trust him.

Plus I think Thomas gets traded this year. Smart will harness his talents. He isnt a head case

suki24 · 05-09-2015, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Not sure how you guys can say he has little upside? He was a consensus top pick if he came out in 2013, mighta been #1. His defense is already elite, if he can get back to driving to the rim and score....hes an All Star.

Will he reach that? Who knows, but to say he has little upside is kinda foolish since he just turned 21.

Not foolish, he's a PG who avg under 40% shooting and poor FT shooting. Doesn't exactly spell great potential. Avg 27 min but managed only 7.8 pts? So he's not a great shooter or a great player maker, then what do you have? A guy who has little potential. Sure he's shown flashes of greatness but so did Brandon Jennings.

smalltown · 05-09-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonfromNC

Just look at what Boston did for Rondos cards when he was at his prime

This right here. He only needs to be above average to be given the "star treatment" in Boston.

IamRalpho · 05-09-2015, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by suki24

Not foolish, he's a PG who avg under 40% shooting and poor FT shooting. Doesn't exactly spell great potential. Avg 27 min but managed only 7.8 pts? So he's not a great shooter or a great player maker, then what do you have? A guy who has little potential. Sure he's shown flashes of greatness but so did Brandon Jennings.

He was 20 years old playing behind Rajon Rondo. Plus his defense is already exceptional. Not to mention when you play with guys like Jeff Green, Evan Turner etc who always shoot its tough to get his points, which I dont think he even cared about this year.

If he was 23 I would agree, but 21 years old who already plays great defense and has a history of being an aggressive scorer? Yes foolish to say the upside is limited.

celtics · 05-09-2015, 08:03 PM

Smarts great but he needs to learn to shoot better. If he can't shoot then I don't ever see him making an impact in the hobby.

hoopster3977 · 05-09-2015, 08:33 PM

For what I have read, Smart is one of Boston's untouchables.

And yes, I'm hoarding a few cards.

bkcardcollector · 05-09-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Not sure how you guys can say he has little upside? He was a consensus top pick if he came out in 2013, mighta been #1. His defense is already elite, if he can get back to driving to the rim and score....hes an All Star.

Will he reach that? Who knows, but to say he has little upside is kinda foolish since he just turned 21.

X1000 love the kid. Peeps gotta realize a defending PG is Huge these days... Of course his shot will get better.

Andy5 · 05-09-2015, 08:59 PM

The kids got talent, just needs a level head on him. That should come with more experience and maturity. Smart of him to pass on the '13 draft. As a magic fan, I'm glad he did. Otherwise they wouldn't have traded for Elf.

rttrffg2012 · 05-10-2015, 10:52 AM

On a long enough timeline, the upside for everyone is zero

bkcardcollector · 05-10-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rttrffg2012

On a long enough timeline, the upside for everyone is zero

lay off the acid dude. haha

dkossin · 07-09-2015, 10:18 PM

looks like he improved a lot in the summer league.

Giantrobot · 07-09-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dkossin

looks like he improved a lot in the summer league.

He was already good, he's playing against weaker competition. I'd love to see him take a big leap forward, though.

JMarchand1981 · 07-10-2015, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rareairx23

Bostons my team man, but I just dont really think he is a superstar point guard in the making, which I hope that im completely wrong. Hes a good defender but not much of an offensive threat at tis point

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Originally Posted by crazymj

Maybe kinda like Avery Bradley?

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Originally Posted by dasiegel

fair comparisons

Yes, yes and yes.

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IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,740 IamSilly	Not sure how you guys can say he has little upside? He was a consensus top pick if he came out in 2013, mighta been #1. His defense is already elite, if he can get back to driving to the rim and score....hes an All Star. Will he reach that? Who knows, but to say he has little upside is kinda foolish since he just turned 21. __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

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05-09-2015, 08:39 AM	#1
mwash1983 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6,202	Marcus Smart Long Term Upside? What do you guys think here, is he worth buying up a few autos in the offseason?

05-09-2015, 08:44 AM	#2
LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15,218	I like him as a player. Is he going to be a superstar? Maybe, but he's in the right market... Just look at what Boston did for Rondos cards when he was at his prime

05-09-2015, 08:48 AM	#3
chitownbears22 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,689	I think he is a mid-level guard with very little upside. He is not a guy that will ever be an elite PG IMO. Short term starter, long term bench PG.

05-09-2015, 01:15 PM	#4
sOuLspin Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Berlin Germany Posts: 1,372	But he is going to be great defender! I also thinking about picking up some nice RC high ends.

05-09-2015, 03:36 PM	#5
Rareairx23 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: new hampshire Posts: 6,796 2011champs41	Bostons my team man, but I just dont really think he is a superstar point guard in the making, which I hope that im completely wrong. Hes a good defender but not much of an offensive threat at tis point

05-09-2015, 03:44 PM	#6
crazymj Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,011	Maybe kinda like Avery Bradley?

05-09-2015, 04:06 PM	#7
Giantrobot Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,850	Tony Allen with better passing/scoring skills. Possible fringe All-Star in a few years. I don't see superstar potential, though.

05-09-2015, 04:59 PM	#10
suki24 Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,395 therainman_24	Smart has some upside but not much. Definitely worth a few autos.

05-09-2015, 05:37 PM	#12
fezziwig Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 511 fezziwig	Not sure he has the focus and mental toughness to leverage his physical talents to the max. He's seems on his way to becoming another JR Smith, and I think Isiaih Thomas might alpha that team away from him as well.

05-09-2015, 08:03 PM	#17
celtics Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,785	Smarts great but he needs to learn to shoot better. If he can't shoot then I don't ever see him making an impact in the hobby.

05-09-2015, 08:33 PM	#18
hoopster3977 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Art's Preforming Center Posts: 3,582	For what I have read, Smart is one of Boston's untouchables. And yes, I'm hoarding a few cards.

05-09-2015, 08:59 PM	#20
Andy5 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 4,059	The kids got talent, just needs a level head on him. That should come with more experience and maturity. Smart of him to pass on the '13 draft. As a magic fan, I'm glad he did. Otherwise they wouldn't have traded for Elf.

05-10-2015, 10:52 AM	#21
rttrffg2012 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sunset Park, NY Posts: 2,933 Jackson2015	On a long enough timeline, the upside for everyone is zero