Classic Panini response to my question

Jackg1980 · 07-20-2015, 11:46 AM

I know this is not a football card.

I sent a message about these cards.

2012 Panini Americana Historical Items George H w Bush Material Patch 05 12 RARE | eBay

2012 Americana Heroes Legends Historical Items Bill Clinton Swatch Relic 11 12 | eBay

Its called Historical Item and is guaranteed by Panini. I ask what is the material. After the 4th try, I received a response. This is what they said.

"unfortunately we are not able to provide you with the exact material and where it came from. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact us at any time, thank you"

My next question will be, "what exactly are ya'll guaranteeing on this Historical item?

drumstyx89 · 07-20-2015, 11:55 AM

Looks like a Cavs jersey

Skootown · 07-20-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackg1980

"unfortunately we are not able to provide you with the exact material and where it came from. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact us at any time, thank you"

My next question will be, "what exactly are ya'll guaranteeing on this Historical item?

What, you expect a company to be aware of what it puts in its products?

Seriously though, that answer is a slap in the face.

They clearly have NO respect for their customers...

EvanD · 07-20-2015, 12:46 PM

Put your question to Tracy Hackler publicly on Twitter. These things are best asked when other people can see it.

BoxBreaker72 · 07-20-2015, 12:49 PM

This hobby has been dying a slow death since 2009... It's no coincidence that that's also the same year Panini entered the hobby.

myerscards · 07-20-2015, 12:52 PM

Bill Clinton is a piece of Hillarys Thong and George Bush is a piece of Hacklers nighty.

pejc300 · 07-20-2015, 12:53 PM

This the reason I recently sold my Babe Ruth Diamond Kings Auto 1/1...it says "authentic signature" but the authentic signature was guaranteed by Panini, which to me is worth about as much as a bag of poop.

Jackg1980 · 07-20-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by drumstyx89

Looks like a Cavs jersey

probably is

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Originally Posted by Skootown

What, you expect a company to be aware of what it puts in its products?

Seriously though, that answer is a slap in the face.

They clearly have NO respect for their customers...

Not sure what is worse, the answer they gave or the fact that I was expecting them to say that.

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Originally Posted by EvanD

Put your question to Tracy Hackler publicly on Twitter. These things are best asked when other people can see it.

good idea, now I just have to learn how to use twitter. LOL

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

This hobby has been dying a slow death since 2009... It's no coincidence that that's also the same year Panini entered the hobby.

It really has. I still find ways to enjoy it tho.

majestik101 · 07-20-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

This the reason I recently sold my Babe Ruth Diamond Kings Auto 1/1...it says "authentic signature" but the authentic signature was guaranteed by Panini, which to me is worth about as much as a big of poop.

Good Call. Plus there are a lot of fake Babe Ruth autos out there, even Topps got taken a few years ago with one.

addicted36 · 07-20-2015, 01:01 PM

You guys are hilarious with this stuff

Jackg1980 · 07-20-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by myerscards

Bill Clinton is a piece of Hillarys Thong and George Bush is a piece of Hacklers nighty.

Yesss. I have the Clinton.

coreydean · 07-20-2015, 01:15 PM

I think Panini is garbage. I really do. Not saying others shouldn't collect it or like it, but I'd never let one of their cards near my PC. If my PC was a kid, Panini would be a sex offender lol.

CalJr3000 · 07-20-2015, 02:13 PM

Classic ~~Panini~~ sports card manufacturer response to my question

As if Topps wouldn't have done the same, if not worse

ChicoCheese · 07-20-2015, 02:29 PM

I can understand if it was a player's jersey of someone like Eddie Lacy where they probably have a closet full of event worn jerseys and they can't tell you which jersey it came from and where. That being said, I seriously doubt that they have more than 1 piece of "memorabilia" for lack of a better term, that belonged to Dubbya and Slick Willy.

Jackg1980 · 07-24-2015, 06:22 PM

This was my response.

Unfortunately the answer is not acceptable and should be acceptable. The back of the card states Panini guarantees the material is real. What is the guarantee, if Panini doesn't even know what it is? Why is Panini putting material in cards, labeling them "Historical Items" of former Presidents, then guarantees the material is real, then when asked what it is, Panini proceeds with "I don't know". The answer I received was disrespectful. I will need a valid answer.

ejs23 · 07-24-2015, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CalJr3000

Classic ~~Panini~~ sports card manufacturer response to my question

As if Topps wouldn't have done the same, if not worse

I was worried someone wasn't going to chime in with a "Topps does it do" defense of Panini!

ejs23 · 07-24-2015, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackg1980

This was my response.

Unfortunately the answer is not acceptable and should be acceptable. The back of the card states Panini guarantees the material is real. What is the guarantee, if Panini doesn't even know what it is? Why is Panini putting material in cards, labeling them "Historical Items" of former Presidents, then guarantees the material is real, then when asked what it is, Panini proceeds with "I don't know". The answer I received was disrespectful. I will need a valid answer.

You should keep pushing this until you get an answer. And I agree with the above idea of using social media to expose it.

good luck

Jackg1980 · 07-24-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ejs23

You should keep pushing this until you get an answer. And I agree with the above idea of using social media to expose it.

good luck

I did, both on Facebook and Twitter. No response so far on social media but they did respond to my above response. They stated this:

"please allow us some time to further investigate this question. Once we have an answer we will be sure to update this ticket. Thank you for your patience and understanding regarding this issue."

Last time they ask me to have patience I never got a follow up. Lol

Rob98 · 07-24-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by myerscards

Bill Clinton is a piece of Hillarys Thong and George Bush is a piece of Hacklers nighty.

Your wrong it's from the boxers he had on when he didn't have intercourse with Monica lowinsky

BirdLaw · 07-24-2015, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ejs23

I was worried someone wasn't going to chime in with a "Topps does it do" defense of Panini!

That is not a defense.

A defense is saying "Panini doesn't do this"

The Card Album · 07-24-2015, 09:12 PM

Topps doesn't hide it. Their COA states "we cannot guarantee any specific game or event" on many of their relic cards.

Not saying that makes them any better than Poopnini. Just making conversation.

Dielon · 07-24-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Card Album

Topps doesn't hide it. Their COA states "we cannot guarantee any specific game or event" on many of their relic cards.

Not saying that makes them any better than Poopnini. Just making conversation.

Topps COA: "we cannot guarantee this is from any specific game or event"

Panini: "the enclosed materials is guaranteed by panini"

Soooo, essentially, both mean exactly the same thing.

manning99 · 07-25-2015, 01:09 AM

I can't remember how long Panini's exclusive deal runs for, but if someone can tell me when it expires, I would like to mark that ion my calendar so I can schedule a party well in advance. David Sharp has made repeated promises to me about compensation for cards Panini failed to replace because they deemed them to have "sufficient enough damage to warrant replacement". So glad I get to make a visit to the Panini booth this week to "greet" them.....

myerscards · 07-25-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by manning99

I can't remember how long Panini's exclusive deal runs for, but if someone can tell me when it expires, I would like to mark that ion my calendar so I can schedule a party well in advance. David Sharp has made repeated promises to me about compensation for cards Panini failed to replace because they deemed them to have "sufficient enough damage to warrant replacement". So glad I get to make a visit to the Panini booth this week to "greet" them.....

I know a few people that want to greet him this weekend.

07-20-2015, 11:46 AM	#1
Jackg1980 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 10,001 MadBreakers	Classic Panini response to my question I know this is not a football card. I sent a message about these cards. 2012 Panini Americana Historical Items George H w Bush Material Patch 05 12 RARE \| eBay 2012 Americana Heroes Legends Historical Items Bill Clinton Swatch Relic 11 12 \| eBay Its called Historical Item and is guaranteed by Panini. I ask what is the material. After the 4th try, I received a response. This is what they said. "unfortunately we are not able to provide you with the exact material and where it came from. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact us at any time, thank you" My next question will be, "what exactly are ya'll guaranteeing on this Historical item? __________________ Official Blowout 2010 Topp Magic Refractor Autograph set collector! Looking for Khalil Mack and Marvel Vibranium "I trade by common sense not book value" "No one makes me bleed my own blood" Last edited by iluvfish2; 07-25-2015 at 06:57 PM. Reason: thread moved to non sport area

07-20-2015, 12:46 PM	#4
EvanD Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 231	Put your question to Tracy Hackler publicly on Twitter. These things are best asked when other people can see it. __________________ I collect on card autos of pre-2000 NBA stars and semi-stars and have been doing this for a very long time. Wow! What a luck!

07-20-2015, 12:53 PM	#7
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,800	This the reason I recently sold my Babe Ruth Diamond Kings Auto 1/1...it says "authentic signature" but the authentic signature was guaranteed by Panini, which to me is worth about as much as a bag of poop. Last edited by pejc300; 07-20-2015 at 01:05 PM.

07-20-2015, 02:13 PM	#13
CalJr3000 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,129 caljr3000-half CalJr3000	Classic ~~Panini~~ sports card manufacturer response to my question As if Topps wouldn't have done the same, if not worse __________________ -Supercollecting Rich Hill and other Michigan baseball alumni! -Michigan football PC (1400 hits and growing!): https://goo.gl/photos/wT4RKG35wLiAeYmq7

07-20-2015, 02:29 PM	#14
ChicoCheese Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chico, Ca. Posts: 5,318	I can understand if it was a player's jersey of someone like Eddie Lacy where they probably have a closet full of event worn jerseys and they can't tell you which jersey it came from and where. That being said, I seriously doubt that they have more than 1 piece of "memorabilia" for lack of a better term, that belonged to Dubbya and Slick Willy. __________________ Green Bay Packers fan since 1994. Always looking for Aaron Rodgers,Eddie Lacy, Clay Matthews, Jordy Nelson, and Favre (Packers only.)

07-20-2015, 11:55 AM	#2
drumstyx89 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,335 jeremyk3714	Looks like a Cavs jersey

07-20-2015, 12:49 PM	#5
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	This hobby has been dying a slow death since 2009... It's no coincidence that that's also the same year Panini entered the hobby.

07-20-2015, 12:52 PM	#6
myerscards Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 9,729	Bill Clinton is a piece of Hillarys Thong and George Bush is a piece of Hacklers nighty.

07-20-2015, 01:01 PM	#10
addicted36 Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 15,815	You guys are hilarious with this stuff

07-20-2015, 01:15 PM	#12
coreydean Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 506	I think Panini is garbage. I really do. Not saying others shouldn't collect it or like it, but I'd never let one of their cards near my PC. If my PC was a kid, Panini would be a sex offender lol.

07-24-2015, 06:22 PM	#15
Jackg1980 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 10,001 MadBreakers	This was my response. Unfortunately the answer is not acceptable and should be acceptable. The back of the card states Panini guarantees the material is real. What is the guarantee, if Panini doesn't even know what it is? Why is Panini putting material in cards, labeling them "Historical Items" of former Presidents, then guarantees the material is real, then when asked what it is, Panini proceeds with "I don't know". The answer I received was disrespectful. I will need a valid answer. __________________ Official Blowout 2010 Topp Magic Refractor Autograph set collector! Looking for Khalil Mack and Marvel Vibranium "I trade by common sense not book value" "No one makes me bleed my own blood"

07-24-2015, 09:12 PM	#21
The Card Album Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,561	Topps doesn't hide it. Their COA states "we cannot guarantee any specific game or event" on many of their relic cards. Not saying that makes them any better than Poopnini. Just making conversation.

07-25-2015, 01:09 AM	#23
manning99 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: St.Albert, AB Posts: 1,653 manning99 manning991	I can't remember how long Panini's exclusive deal runs for, but if someone can tell me when it expires, I would like to mark that ion my calendar so I can schedule a party well in advance. David Sharp has made repeated promises to me about compensation for cards Panini failed to replace because they deemed them to have "sufficient enough damage to warrant replacement". So glad I get to make a visit to the Panini booth this week to "greet" them..... __________________ New White Whales I am Looking for: 1998 Black Diamond Horizontal Die Cuts of: PC5 Sanders PC7 Elway PC13 Marino PC 19 S.Young