Classic "Am I screwed" question, USPS to South Korea

stinkus · 08-03-2015, 10:41 AM

So I sold a Greg Maddux framed auto from museum on eBay. The buyer was in South Korea but has over 1000 feedback and 100% positive. No problem, send it out.

40 days later a claim is opened, item not received. I see it went from New Jersey to Jamaica New York, and then nothing for 38 days. Called the USPS and am told once it leaves their hands, it's not tracked any further and there's nothing else they can do.

So now what? I'm about to be out $300 and the card. Total BS that they have no responsibility or action to take from here.

Tracking is LK066978485US

jubei777 · 08-03-2015, 10:44 AM

for that value i would have hoped that it would have been shipped EMS. if so, there should be some form of tracking unless South Korea doesn't track EMS. Go down to your post office and check with them. I never call that line since I have a good rapport with my local post office.

IowaCubs1 · 08-03-2015, 11:03 AM

This is why I only deal to United States only.

shrevecity · 08-03-2015, 11:05 AM

Unless you can see the tracking online you are pretty much screwed in the eyes of Paypal/Ebay.

Lowry · 08-03-2015, 11:05 AM

Did you use the Global Shipping Program through eBay, or just shipped on your own to South Korea?

stinkus · 08-03-2015, 11:15 AM

I used eBay. There is s tracking number associated with it. It's not your standard 20 digit, it's LK0******US, so it is traceable

Lowry · 08-03-2015, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkus

I used eBay. There is s tracking number associated with it. It's not your standard 20 digit, it's LK0******US, so it is traceable

If you used the Global Shipping Program, then your sole responsibility was getting the package to Kentucky. Does it show delivered from you to the Kentucky shipping center?

alifaxwa2 · 08-03-2015, 11:23 AM

Its all going to depend on what USPS service you picked. Not all of them offer tracking outside the U.S.

cardsharkk · 08-03-2015, 11:36 AM

If you used Ebay GSP you are covered as long as it got to Kentucky....
I had a buyer not get a Pokemon N64 controller, ($50).... Item apparently got lost, and ebay refunded them via the dispute.... it did not count against me or my defect rate, and ebay paid out of their pocket since i did everything right and i got my money back that was on hold.... Hopefully this happens for you too

nera20 · 08-03-2015, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaCubs1

This is why I only deal to United States only.

right here is the easiest way to deal with that stuff

xbignick · 08-03-2015, 11:52 AM

Did you try using the tracking among the various sites that help find tracking worldwide? I shipped the UK, hasn't moved lately and hoping it shows up on Royalmail.

chezball · 08-03-2015, 12:04 PM

OP no need to hide the number,we can't help without it.

nateyad · 08-03-2015, 12:09 PM

Yeah I can tell you just from the information given this was not shipped with eBay's global shipping program. All items go to Erlanger, KY and that's the last time you see them in the US. Pretty much sounds like the first and only time I tried to ship globally myself. The LK**** number is only going to show tracking in the US and after that you get nothing. I lost $90 on a phone this way and lost the case. There is pretty much no way you can prove the item ever got delivered.

chezball · 08-03-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nateyad

Yeah I can tell you just from the information given this was not shipped with eBay's global shipping program. All items go to Erlanger, KY and that's the last time you see them in the US. Pretty much sounds like the first and only time I tried to ship globally myself. The LK**** number is only going to show tracking in the US and after that you get nothing. I lost $90 on a phone this way and lost the case. There is pretty much no way you can prove the item ever got delivered.

You can pick up the number when it goes to the other country's mail system.
When you ship to Canada,you put the number into the Canada Post tracking and it shows up there. OP put the number here https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...99261572,d.aWw

shrevecity · 08-03-2015, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nateyad

Yeah I can tell you just from the information given this was not shipped with eBay's global shipping program. All items go to Erlanger, KY and that's the last time you see them in the US. Pretty much sounds like the first and only time I tried to ship globally myself. The LK**** number is only going to show tracking in the US and after that you get nothing. I lost $90 on a phone this way and lost the case. There is pretty much no way you can prove the item ever got delivered.

I have had a few shipped through there that they add the other tracking number to it once they reship it.

chezball · 08-03-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

I have had a few shipped through there that they add the other tracking number to it once they reship it.

I thought that would be the case,but wasn't sure.

stinkus · 08-03-2015, 12:46 PM

Thank for all the help. I will try to get more information on this tomorrow

nateyad · 08-03-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

I have had a few shipped through there that they add the other tracking number to it once they reship it.

Through where? This item was shipped not using the eBay global tracking. It was shipped International First Class. There will be no more shipping updates on the card once it leaves the US unless it went to Canada. I learned the same lesson as the OP is about to, either ship using eBay GSP or you have to fork out the money to ship priority.

IronMonkey415 · 08-03-2015, 01:41 PM

Its got to the point that it spook me so much that I only do deals with people in California.

Bhenry4 · 08-03-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

Its got to the point that it spook me so much that I only do deals with people in California.

I only deal with people in my neighborhood, that way if they're lying, I just go beat em up.

SaveMeTheGum · 08-03-2015, 02:02 PM

Anything I ship outside of the US (that doesn't go through ebay global program) I charge $40 and ship Global Express Priority so that it is tracked and insured. Let the buyer take the risk. Only way to go.

ninjacookies · 08-03-2015, 02:03 PM

I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would ship overseas directly (not to mention all the paperwork and forms) when the Ebay Global Shipping program takes all the work and liability off of the sellers hands. It seriously boggles my mind.

Evolved · 08-03-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would ship overseas directly (not to mention all the paperwork and forms) when the Ebay Global Shipping program takes all the work and liability off of the sellers hands. It seriously boggles my mind.

ding ding ding!

eBay makes it a piece of cake to ship internationally. It's literally 1 click of a button on your listing. Back in the day I used to ship international myself and it's a pain in the ass. Prices, tracking, packaging, customs forms etc. Once the Global Shipping Program rolled out it's a no brainer. You ship just like you would ship to anyone else in the US regardless where they are located and you're protected.

stinkus · 09-23-2015, 12:19 PM

Update. This randomly showed back up on my doorstep the other day after 10 weeks of no answers and having to give back the money and not having the card.

Thanks to all who helped

08-03-2015, 10:41 AM	#1
stinkus Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 5,022 Bmenkes	Classic "Am I screwed" question, USPS to South Korea So I sold a Greg Maddux framed auto from museum on eBay. The buyer was in South Korea but has over 1000 feedback and 100% positive. No problem, send it out. 40 days later a claim is opened, item not received. I see it went from New Jersey to Jamaica New York, and then nothing for 38 days. Called the USPS and am told once it leaves their hands, it's not tracked any further and there's nothing else they can do. So now what? I'm about to be out $300 and the card. Total BS that they have no responsibility or action to take from here. Tracking is LK066978485US __________________ Please don't ever ask me for my "best price" on something. It's already been posted. https://instagram.com/cardsbystinkus?r=nametag Last edited by stinkus; 08-03-2015 at 01:04 PM.

08-03-2015, 11:03 AM	#3
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08-03-2015, 11:05 AM	#5
Lowry Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: TX Posts: 691 cards4sewanee	Did you use the Global Shipping Program through eBay, or just shipped on your own to South Korea? __________________ Album: http://sportscardalbum.com/u/lowry Collecting: 1997 Donruss Preferred Precious Metals

08-03-2015, 11:15 AM	#6
stinkus Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 5,022 Bmenkes	I used eBay. There is s tracking number associated with it. It's not your standard 20 digit, it's LK0******US, so it is traceable __________________ Please don't ever ask me for my "best price" on something. It's already been posted. https://instagram.com/cardsbystinkus?r=nametag

08-03-2015, 11:23 AM	#8
alifaxwa2 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: MD Posts: 1,128 alifaxwa	Its all going to depend on what USPS service you picked. Not all of them offer tracking outside the U.S. __________________ Looking to have some custom cuts built? PM me. Examples of Completed Customs; FB.me/jpcustomcards or https://www.flickr.com/gp/142349487@N02/DGae0C

08-03-2015, 10:44 AM	#2
jubei777 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,427 jubei777	for that value i would have hoped that it would have been shipped EMS. if so, there should be some form of tracking unless South Korea doesn't track EMS. Go down to your post office and check with them. I never call that line since I have a good rapport with my local post office.

08-03-2015, 11:05 AM	#4
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	Unless you can see the tracking online you are pretty much screwed in the eyes of Paypal/Ebay.

08-03-2015, 11:36 AM	#9
cardsharkk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,578	If you used Ebay GSP you are covered as long as it got to Kentucky.... I had a buyer not get a Pokemon N64 controller, ($50).... Item apparently got lost, and ebay refunded them via the dispute.... it did not count against me or my defect rate, and ebay paid out of their pocket since i did everything right and i got my money back that was on hold.... Hopefully this happens for you too

08-03-2015, 11:52 AM	#11
xbignick Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 29,306 xxbignick	Did you try using the tracking among the various sites that help find tracking worldwide? I shipped the UK, hasn't moved lately and hoping it shows up on Royalmail. __________________ @xxbignick on twitter

08-03-2015, 12:04 PM	#12
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,673 jabber	OP no need to hide the number,we can't help without it.

08-03-2015, 12:09 PM	#13
nateyad Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: South Central, PA Posts: 3,116	Yeah I can tell you just from the information given this was not shipped with eBay's global shipping program. All items go to Erlanger, KY and that's the last time you see them in the US. Pretty much sounds like the first and only time I tried to ship globally myself. The LK**** number is only going to show tracking in the US and after that you get nothing. I lost $90 on a phone this way and lost the case. There is pretty much no way you can prove the item ever got delivered.

08-03-2015, 12:46 PM	#17
stinkus Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 5,022 Bmenkes	Thank for all the help. I will try to get more information on this tomorrow __________________ Please don't ever ask me for my "best price" on something. It's already been posted. https://instagram.com/cardsbystinkus?r=nametag

08-03-2015, 01:41 PM	#19
IronMonkey415 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 44,118 ironmonkeyfromsf	Its got to the point that it spook me so much that I only do deals with people in California.

08-03-2015, 02:02 PM	#21
SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 16,310 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	Anything I ship outside of the US (that doesn't go through ebay global program) I charge $40 and ship Global Express Priority so that it is tracked and insured. Let the buyer take the risk. Only way to go. __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite

08-03-2015, 02:03 PM	#22
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,523	I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would ship overseas directly (not to mention all the paperwork and forms) when the Ebay Global Shipping program takes all the work and liability off of the sellers hands. It seriously boggles my mind.

09-23-2015, 12:19 PM	#24
stinkus Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NEW JERSEY Posts: 5,022 Bmenkes	Update. This randomly showed back up on my doorstep the other day after 10 weeks of no answers and having to give back the money and not having the card. Thanks to all who helped __________________ Please don't ever ask me for my "best price" on something. It's already been posted. https://instagram.com/cardsbystinkus?r=nametag