FAKE Essential Credentials Mcgrady /2 on eBay

rogermaris · 03-09-2016, 06:54 PM

Talking about this listing

You can find the real version of this card in the first post of this thread:

Obviously the stamping is a joke and the coloring is off, but seriously, how do people get away with this? To top it off this is a huge seller with 34k feedback 100 percent positive. Extra slimy that the seller appears to have another REAL essential credentials Mcgrady /79 listed to give the fake one more legitimacy.

EDITED TO ADD SIDE BY SIDE PICTURES OF THE CARD IN QUESTION:

Sharard · 03-09-2016, 06:58 PM

I'd be interested if someone messaged the guy in eBay with the link and see what he says about the card.

It says 2/2. Still calling it a fake? Your link didn't show is that could have been 1/2

SelfDestruct808 · 03-09-2016, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharard

I'd be interested if someone messaged the guy in eBay with the link and see what he says about the card.

It says 2/2. Still calling it a fake? Your link didn't show is that could have been 1/2

The link does show that.
2tmacsback.jpg Photo by mjcredentialsking | Photobucket
2tmacsfront.jpg Photo by mjcredentialsking | Photobucket

bewareof94 · 03-09-2016, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharard

I'd be interested if someone messaged the guy in eBay with the link and see what he says about the card.

It says 2/2. Still calling it a fake? Your link didn't show is that could have been 1/2

Click on the bottom image. It is the real 2/2.

The same seller is selling a nice group of PMGs with highly questionable numbering as well - more than likely they're all fake now.

Nice work OP

rogermaris · 03-09-2016, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharard

I'd be interested if someone messaged the guy in eBay with the link and see what he says about the card.

It says 2/2. Still calling it a fake? Your link didn't show is that could have been 1/2

I've updated the original post to include the picture of the back, but honestly is it even needed? One look at the numbering should be all it takes to send alarm bells ringing in your head. I mean, the font isn't even CLOSE and the kerning is a joke.

Sharard · 03-09-2016, 07:14 PM

Yep, I stand corrected. Tempted to message the guy. eBay sucks enough for honest sellers without these guys making it worst. Maybe message eBay too with this proof.

rogermaris · 03-09-2016, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bewareof94

Click on the bottom image. It is the real 2/2.

The same seller is selling a nice group of PMGs with highly questionable numbering as well - more than likely they're all fake now.

Nice work OP

I didn't even notice that. Look at how bad the stamping is on the green Mcgrady! If you search "1997" on his store page, it's a like a who's who of 90s inserts.

bewareof94 · 03-09-2016, 07:20 PM

Basic rule of thumb anymore is to stay far away from any and all rare 90s parallels and inserts from Asia - way too many fakes coming out of there now

rogermaris · 03-09-2016, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bewareof94

Basic rule of thumb anymore is to stay far away from any and all rare 90s parallels and inserts from Asia - way too many fakes coming out of there now

It's sad but true. Eventually though these cards will be in circulation all over the world. Hopefully by then people will wake up and start taking a closer look at the cards they're buying...

Doublexthebeast · 03-09-2016, 07:48 PM

I have been watching his Grant Hills and think I may just stay away from them. He has a 97-98 Championship PMG and a Millenieum Man. I want them both badly but am scared now that they are fakes.

Have any of you guys looked them over?

GoldenBoy23 · 03-09-2016, 07:52 PM

Will the seller get a home run selling this?

goehring9 · 03-09-2016, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bewareof94

Basic rule of thumb anymore is to stay far away from any and all rare 90s parallels and inserts from Asia - way too many fakes coming out of there now

That's for sure... Disappointing but the reality is the counterfeiters in China go after any and all commodities that bring high dollar for minimal effort, and cards fall right into that category. Electronic components, DVDs, the list goes on and on

bdrr · 03-09-2016, 08:26 PM

God, it's a bad fake too. How are people bidding on that piece of crap.

domin824 · 03-09-2016, 08:38 PM

Such an awful job on the serial #, only a novice would get fooled. I'm glad whoever's doing this can't replicate them that precisely yet.....

Doublexthebeast · 03-09-2016, 08:50 PM

The serial number looks bad but I still wonder the amount of time/effort it takes to duplicate the acetate card. Those cards are pretty detailed and would have to take some effort. You think the card was really made by Fleer/Skybox and they just added the serial number?

glen87 · 03-09-2016, 08:54 PM

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...t-excited.html

XARZY · 03-09-2016, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublexthebeast

The serial number looks bad but I still wonder the amount of time/effort it takes to duplicate the acetate card. Those cards are pretty detailed and would have to take some effort. You think the card was really made by Fleer/Skybox and they just added the serial number?

card was probably from the bankruptcy auction unstamped.

Doublexthebeast · 03-09-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XARZY

card was probably from the bankruptcy auction unstamped.

Yeah. Probably so. I want the Hill PMG so bad but don't want a fake. This stuff drives me insane when people are shady.

bdrr · 03-09-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by XARZY

card was probably from the bankruptcy auction unstamped.

Dude, look at the card. The foil is completely wrong. Somebody just scratched off the base foil and laid on something purple.

lair911 · 03-09-2016, 09:03 PM

The EX credential is one of the two bankruptcy copies that was stamped later on. So it is fake for sure.

The green PMG looks legit though. I have a green the stamping looks consistent with mine.

I have been blocked by that hong Kong seller ever since I pointed out that they were selling a bankruptcy fleer non stamp logoman before. What a shame.

Doublexthebeast · 03-09-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrr

Dude, look at the card. The foil is completely wrong. Somebody just scratched off the base foil and laid on something purple.

I'd like to see some pictures taken from different angles.

Airforce777 · 03-09-2016, 09:49 PM

Card is real, the serial number is not.

I believe there are 1 or 2 of each players future credentials floating around that are not numbered.

rogermaris · 03-09-2016, 10:07 PM

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Hegotgame15 · 03-09-2016, 10:22 PM

All the cards are real....

The stamps on some may or may not have been added later (as in back door sheet cut or bankruptcy cards)

This seller has no connection with the Taiwan FAKE sellers.

These cards are likely form a high end collection, collected YEARS ago well before the other fakes where on the market...

The 2/2 is more than likely a real card with a stamp added later...

The rest I have no reason to question....

I hope that helps...

afrobandit · 03-09-2016, 10:57 PM

It seems as if someone simply colored the sides, maybe with a dye of some sort, then added numbering. you can tell by the see through letters on the back.

03-09-2016, 06:54 PM	#1
rogermaris Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,200	FAKE Essential Credentials Mcgrady /2 on eBay Talking about this listing You can find the real version of this card in the first post of this thread: Obviously the stamping is a joke and the coloring is off, but seriously, how do people get away with this? To top it off this is a huge seller with 34k feedback 100 percent positive. Extra slimy that the seller appears to have another REAL essential credentials Mcgrady /79 listed to give the fake one more legitimacy. EDITED TO ADD SIDE BY SIDE PICTURES OF THE CARD IN QUESTION: Last edited by rogermaris; 05-07-2018 at 04:49 AM.

03-09-2016, 06:58 PM	#2
Sharard Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,638	I'd be interested if someone messaged the guy in eBay with the link and see what he says about the card. It says 2/2. Still calling it a fake? Your link didn't show is that could have been 1/2 Last edited by Sharard; 03-09-2016 at 07:01 PM.

03-09-2016, 07:20 PM	#8
bewareof94 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,047	Basic rule of thumb anymore is to stay far away from any and all rare 90s parallels and inserts from Asia - way too many fakes coming out of there now __________________ ALWAYS LOOKING FOR: 2002 SP LEGENDARY CUTS AUTOGRAPHS

03-09-2016, 07:48 PM	#10
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	I have been watching his Grant Hills and think I may just stay away from them. He has a 97-98 Championship PMG and a Millenieum Man. I want them both badly but am scared now that they are fakes. Have any of you guys looked them over? __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.

03-09-2016, 07:52 PM	#11
GoldenBoy23 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dirty South, PH Posts: 2,647	Will the seller get a home run selling this? __________________ Allen Iverson collector. #AI3forever

03-09-2016, 07:14 PM	#6
Sharard Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,638	Yep, I stand corrected. Tempted to message the guy. eBay sucks enough for honest sellers without these guys making it worst. Maybe message eBay too with this proof.

03-09-2016, 08:26 PM	#13
bdrr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington, DC but Los Angeles at heart. Posts: 13,315	God, it's a bad fake too. How are people bidding on that piece of crap. __________________ ~~I am the Lauri Markkanen hype machine.~~ ~~Haha. Kill me.~~ WHAT NOW, B*****S, LAURI 4EVA

03-09-2016, 08:38 PM	#14
domin824 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Lost Angels, CA Posts: 887 domin8_24	Such an awful job on the serial #, only a novice would get fooled. I'm glad whoever's doing this can't replicate them that precisely yet..... __________________ KOBE EXQUISITE COLLECTOR! http://s826.photobucket.com/user/domin824/library/KOBE%20AUTO%20by%20YEAR?sort=4&page=1

03-09-2016, 08:50 PM	#15
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	The serial number looks bad but I still wonder the amount of time/effort it takes to duplicate the acetate card. Those cards are pretty detailed and would have to take some effort. You think the card was really made by Fleer/Skybox and they just added the serial number? __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.

03-09-2016, 08:54 PM	#16
glen87 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: VERMONT Posts: 71,352 glen87 glen87	http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...t-excited.html __________________ collecting James Madison University players of all sports JMU cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmucards/ other cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/glen87/albums

03-09-2016, 09:03 PM	#20
lair911 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 523	The EX credential is one of the two bankruptcy copies that was stamped later on. So it is fake for sure. The green PMG looks legit though. I have a green the stamping looks consistent with mine. I have been blocked by that hong Kong seller ever since I pointed out that they were selling a bankruptcy fleer non stamp logoman before. What a shame. __________________ Please look for me on Instagram under lair911

03-09-2016, 09:49 PM	#22
Airforce777 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 139	Card is real, the serial number is not. I believe there are 1 or 2 of each players future credentials floating around that are not numbered.

03-09-2016, 10:07 PM	#23
rogermaris Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,200	------- Last edited by rogermaris; 05-07-2018 at 04:50 AM.

03-09-2016, 10:22 PM	#24
Hegotgame15 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,764	All the cards are real.... The stamps on some may or may not have been added later (as in back door sheet cut or bankruptcy cards) This seller has no connection with the Taiwan FAKE sellers. These cards are likely form a high end collection, collected YEARS ago well before the other fakes where on the market... The 2/2 is more than likely a real card with a stamp added later... The rest I have no reason to question.... I hope that helps...

03-09-2016, 10:57 PM	#25
afrobandit Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,955 afrobandit	It seems as if someone simply colored the sides, maybe with a dye of some sort, then added numbering. you can tell by the see through letters on the back.