I can't do this anymore

[RogerGodahell]

[mfisher27]

Based off these two posts it just looks like you were trying to get it for less than it would at auction. The auction is currently at your first offer so that's not really "more than the card is gonna go for". I'm guessing the seller is even less inclined to accept any new offer from you given that.

Originally Posted by dmccards22

I fully understand of running the risk of an auction on eBay and I understand wanting the most for your stuff. But when I message you and ask to put a BIN FOR more than the card is gonna go for, and get a nasty response. So I offered double what it's going for I got a nastier response.. I just don't get it

Originally Posted by dmccards22

The card was at 65$ with a day left so I offered 100 than 150 now the card is at 100 about to end and I offered 180 than 200

[deansayso]

I had a similar thing happen...

Guy had a 1/1 Auto I wanted for 199 BIN/OBO. I offered 120 and he declined and didn't even make a counter. Goes up for auction the next week. I win it for 90...

[BengalsJayhawks]

OP you do realize that it's now a negative on eBay to cancel an auction with bids for any reason and the seller will be charged wth the fvf for what the amount was when the auction was cancelled? That reason alone once something went to auction I won't cancel it. I've actually been burned by a person who sent me an offer to cancel an auction, i did, he paid but then wanted a refund for some stupid reason. So not only did I get a negative mark on eBay as a seller for cancelling the auction I was now out my fees from the originally cancelled auction. So in short it's not worth the headache to deal with offers like that anymore. Especially if you act like an ass and don't accept my first response to your offer.

[Soxrule111]

Originally Posted by dmccards22

The card was at 65$ with a day left so I offered 100 than 150 now the card is at 100 about to end and I offered 180 than 200

Originally Posted by dmccards22

I just hate auctions so if it's a card I want or need I'll message them an insane BIN price

Ok, you offered on a card in Auction, but didn't offer an Insane BIN Price. If t was at $65 and you offered $100, and it got to $100 in Auction, not close to an insane price. You then doubled up, to $150, $180, and finally $200...to me you were trying to pull a quick one on a seller, hoping he didn't know the value of the card. Now if you offered $200 from the get go, maybe some more power to end the auction. But like someone else said, if a card is at $10 in Auction, but is a $1000 card, offering $800 isn't an insane offer price because no way the card doesn't reach that mark.

I place 95% of bids in only during the final mins of an Auction. What its at with 6 days left means nothing to me.

[seabass97166]

It's bad business for seller to end auctions early. If I'm bidding or watching something that ends in the middle of an auction, I won't take that seller seriously going forward and probably won't be doing business with them.

As a seller, I will only end an auction before any bids are placed, it's a matter of principal.

[blevins26]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

It's bad business for seller to end auctions early. If I'm bidding or watching something that ends in the middle of an auction, I won't take that seller seriously going forward and probably won't be doing business with them.

As a seller, I will only end an auction before any bids are placed, it's a matter of principal.

Truth. Honestly, there are just so many scumbag buyers on eBay that as a seller you have to protect yourself. I am always going to prefer to let the auction run it's course simply because that protects me as the seller. I might get less $$$ for a card but at least I know everyone got a fair shot at it.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by BoJackCards

Name calling.....nice.

Originally Posted by BoJackCards

"Sometimes the shoe fits". Not if you're a grown mature man. I would think a grown man could come up with better arguments than calling somebody a "douche bag" but maybe that's just me.

I didn't call the OP a douchebag, fella. I said he comes off as a douchebag. There was no definitive judgement on my part as to the OP being a douchebag. Quite to the contrary actually; I make a statement that leaves the door open and acknowledge that this single thread does not define the OP entirely. It's a mere commentary (that the OP clearly wanted by posting in a semi-public forum) that the OP's self described actions give the appearance of douchebaggery. No more. No less.

Now, back to the topic at hand: repeatedly badgering sellers to end auctions early has the auspices of douchebaggery; Yea or Nay?

[NoleinJax]

Originally Posted by bojesphob

I've offered some sellers a pretty good over value offers on some stuff that they had listed of the prizm stuff I need, and had replies that said "I want to see what it goes for on auction". Fine, I have no problem with that, but i ask anyway just because I've gotten some people to take me up on the offer. It's not that I don't have patience to wait, I just want to make sure I get it. Anyhow, every time i've done that and the person turned me down, I got it for about 20-30 less than the offer I made, so i can't complain lol

I feel the same way. It doesn't hurt to ask. I mean if they have it up for a 7 or 10 auction and I offer them a fair price with money today instead of 7-10 days later and possibly dealing with a non paying bidder and they still want to let it ride, ok with me. Sometimes it works out though and I get a card I wanted without having to worry about last second bidding or a snipe not going through for some reason.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

It's bad business for seller to end auctions early. If I'm bidding or watching something that ends in the middle of an auction, I won't take that seller seriously going forward and probably won't be doing business with them.

As a seller, I will only end an auction before any bids are placed, it's a matter of principal.

isn't kind of contradictory?

[Grid]

For what its worth I once had a buyer ask me to end an auction early for almost double what it was worth.

It was a 2005 Gridiron Gear patch of Shockey in his Miami Uni. They were selling for $15ish at the time and there were 35 copies made (jumbo patch). My listing was up for almost 2 days with 10 watchers or something. Opening bid was .99 no bidders yet. I get an offer for $30 shipped to sell off eBay.

I had no bids so I took him up on it. Ended the auction and I gave him my PP info and he never paid. So I waited a day and sent an invoice to the address he gave me when we made the deal. Waited another day and sent him a message. Waited another day and still nothing.

The whole time he listed his own 2005 Gridiron Gear Shockey patch /35, the same as mine (mine had a slightly better patch), as a 5 day auction. Bidding for his was up over $20 by the time I saw it.

I sent all kinds of messages blasting him but he just ignored them all. The clever jerk took me and my card out of the market to sell his own since he now had the only one on eBay. And there was nothing I could do about it but relist and wait.

I still have that card in my PC as a reminder of my greed... So maybe some sellers just dont want to end for very good reasons.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by chipmaster

I had a Sidney Crosby Cup RC Platinum /25 years ago up for $1000. a buyer offered me $950 and I declined. He was nasty and was acting entitled to the card when I wouldn't budge. It sat up for a week more and I wound up accepting a $930 offer from someone that was pleasant and cool to deal with.

I got a very angry, condescending email from the first offer buyer saying things like I was a POS for not accepting, blah blah blah.

Told him it was my freakin' card, and he had such a potty attitude that I wouldn't have sold it to him for $1500. Basically told him to kick rocks and pound sand over $20.

Some real tools on eBay

Yep. Pretty much why I don't sell anymore. The only time I sell is to raise funds to throw at girls with daddy issues, and I don't want to get 50 questions from the roommate. Hell, $20 ain't even Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song worth in the champagne room; so it sure as he'll isn't worth my time to message back and forth with some buyer about taking a auction off eBay...

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by dmccards22

I just hate auctions so if it's a card I want or need I'll message them an insane BIN price

This is what gets me, you don't need the card.

Anyways, on the rare occasion I list something on eBay at auction I sometimes get someone wanting to end the auction early and buy it straight up. So one time I actually said okay. Ended it early after a price was agreed upon. I list it as a crazy high buy it now and the guy puts the offer in and I accept it. Then comes the excuses for why he could not pay for it. So after that, if I ever listed anything at auction again, I was going to see the auction through.

[49erRCCollector]

I think it's all in the approach. I make a point to NEVER be nasty when I buy or sell on eBay. I recently sold some high grade graded key comics and with a busy life I don't care to separate who is serious from who is not.

Lots of flippers looking for a deal. IGNORED. One guy e-mailed asking for a best price, that he'd really like to add it to his collection. I said - "if you come at me with this, it's yours". The deal closed.

Weirdly most of the nastiness comes from buyers for me. I posted a really rare oddball item related to a band with a huge, rabid collector base. I got e-mail after e-mail deriding me for "ripping off" fans, and they "would have bought it" if I had "sold it for a reasonable price". Irony was it was a pure auction, it just got really out of control, bid up by these same insane fans.

My point is that if you are earnest and make a compelling case for a sale price, I think most reasonable people will at least listen.

[Irish]

Originally Posted by Grid

For what its worth I once had a buyer ask me to end an auction early for almost double what it was worth.

It was a 2005 Gridiron Gear patch of Shockey in his Miami Uni. They were selling for $15ish at the time and there were 35 copies made (jumbo patch). My listing was up for almost 2 days with 10 watchers or something. Opening bid was .99 no bidders yet. I get an offer for $30 shipped to sell off eBay.

I had no bids so I took him up on it. Ended the auction and I gave him my PP info and he never paid. So I waited a day and sent an invoice to the address he gave me when we made the deal. Waited another day and sent him a message. Waited another day and still nothing.

The whole time he listed his own 2005 Gridiron Gear Shockey patch /35, the same as mine (mine had a slightly better patch), as a 5 day auction. Bidding for his was up over $20 by the time I saw it.

I sent all kinds of messages blasting him but he just ignored them all. The clever jerk took me and my card out of the market to sell his own since he now had the only one on eBay. And there was nothing I could do about it but relist and wait.

I still have that card in my PC as a reminder of my greed... So maybe some sellers just dont want to end for very good reasons.

Lol I thought I've heard it all but dang that's petty ish right there.

[iluvfish2]

Originally Posted by dmccards22

The card was at 65$ with a day left so I offered 100 than 150 now the card is at 100 about to end and I offered 180 than 200

You havent stated what the card is. Maybe you will once the auction is over. But as a seller card is listed as an auction and I generally wont end it early. But for sure most auctions arent seeing much if any activity until the last hour or so, so for me I judge a listing by its views and/or watchers, not by the auction value 24 hours out. If the card has been selling for 65 and your offering 100 thats a different story, but I dont think we're getting the whole story.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by chipmaster

Some real tools on eBay

The internet (generally) allows people to be complete pieces of excrement. eBay exacerbates that tendency when it comes the recklessly immature members of society, most card collectors. I have never dealt with the level of stupidity that exists when it comes to cards. It is like a sizeable piece of people's brains shut off when it comes to buying cards.

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

I didn't call the OP a douchebag, fella. I said he comes off as a douchebag. There was no definitive judgement on my part as to the OP being a douchebag. Quite to the contrary actually; I make a statement that leaves the door open and acknowledge that this single thread does not define the OP entirely. It's a mere commentary (that the OP clearly wanted by posting in a semi-public forum) that the OP's self described actions give the appearance of douchebaggery. No more. No less.

Now, back to the topic at hand: repeatedly badgering sellers to end auctions early has the auspices of douchebaggery; Yea or Nay?

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Yep. Pretty much why I don't sell anymore. The only time I sell is to raise funds to throw at girls with daddy issues, and I don't want to get 50 questions from the roommate. Hell, $20 ain't even Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song worth in the champagne room; so it sure as he'll isn't worth my time to message back and forth with some buyer about taking a auction off eBay...

Nice to see you're back and going AGB!

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by HBMC

The internet (generally) allows people to be complete pieces of excrement. eBay exacerbates that tendency when it comes the recklessly immature members of society, most card collectors. I have never dealt with the level of stupidity that exists when it comes to cards. It is like a sizeable piece of people's brains shut off when it comes to buying cards.







Nice to see you're back and going AGB!

Urban dictionaried AGB: yes to all definitions

[RogerGodahell]

After grog bog or army gang bang? haha

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Urban dictionaried AGB: yes to all definitions

Oh the internet, I meant "All Guns Blazing"

Guess I'll have to ditch that acronym lol, funny, I know of more than one ginger lady who isn't pleasant lol.

[chipmaster]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Yep. Pretty much why I don't sell anymore. The only time I sell is to raise funds to throw at girls with daddy issues, and I don't want to get 50 questions from the roommate. Hell, $20 ain't even Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song worth in the champagne room; so it sure as he'll isn't worth my time to message back and forth with some buyer about taking a auction off eBay...

But you could at least get your balls grabbed for $20 or a few flashes from the bartender with her 36DD naturals

Originally Posted by HBMC

The internet (generally) allows people to be complete pieces of excrement. eBay exacerbates that tendency when it comes the recklessly immature members of society, most card collectors. I have never dealt with the level of stupidity that exists when it comes to cards. It is like a sizeable piece of people's brains shut off when it comes to buying cards

Well to be honest, a majority of these card collectors are degenerative swamp donkeys.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

After grog bog or army gang bang? haha

All Good Bro

Originally Posted by HBMC

Oh the internet, I meant "All Guns Blazing"

Guess I'll have to ditch that acronym lol, funny, I know of more than one ginger lady who isn't pleasant lol.

I only one ginger chick. She's not overly bitchy, but I'm gonna use it with her.

Originally Posted by chipmaster

But you could at least get your balls grabbed for $20 or a few flashes from the bartender with her 36DD naturals

Well to be honest, a majority of these card collectors are degenerative swamp donkeys.

Indy doesn't have that great of gentlemans clubs. Admittedly, I haven't actually visited one in years, but the "best" I ever saw was a moderately methed out fried eggs on a nail b cups...

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

....the "best" I ever saw was a moderately methed out fried eggs on a nail b cups...

And here I thought "quarter pounder with cheese" was a graphic description of such persons. Wow...

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

And here I thought "quarter pounder with cheese" was a graphic description of such persons. Wow...

I'm the Shakespeare of modern descriptors of/for degeneracy.

[Jonathon M]

Oh nice... Another "I didn't get the card I wanted for the price I wanted to pay thread, so the seller is an A-hole!!!" waaah, waah, freakin waah...

Never in my life I have experience so many entitled whingers and their need to tell everyone