Warning: Jesse Boeglin of Ashaway, RI, aka cardscout accused of multiple thefts

[rustyisin]

Someone who has so much mistrust and anxiety about a deal this size should not be making them.

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Just in case anyone was wondering the card is back in Washington and none of my $700 has been refunded.

Originally Posted by rustyisin

Someone who has so much mistrust and anxiety about a deal this size should not be making them.

Good grief you two...

Both of you seem to have perfect reputations here and elsewhere that you are both willing to throw away by acting like children.

Surely there is some common ground that you can find where this can end amicably...

[ctau00]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Just in case anyone was wondering the card is back in Washington and none of my $700 has been refunded.

PM coming.

[rustyisin]

Cardscout again obfuscating the truth.
This item is not "back" in Washington State...it never left.

Also filing a paypal claim rather than trust that I will refund his payment.

[hche]

Man, this is turning ugly.

[CardScout]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

Cardscouts pm contradicts him thinking it was a forum rule. How "he usually does it" is not "I thought the rules are"

He follows normal trading procedure and this is a non issue. This thread to me is a smoke screen.

Originally Posted by rustyisin

Cardscout again obfuscating the truth.
This item is not "back" in Washington State...it never left.

Also filing a paypal claim rather than trust that I will refund his payment.

Is Seattle Washington not Washington State?

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Is Seattle Washington not Washington State?

I think the larger point is that you came into the thread and indicated that he had the card back and wasn't refunding you, but you can clearly see on the tracking that he doesn't have it yet.

It would probably be best for both of you to stop calling each other out and handle via PMs like alleged adults.

[CardScout]

Originally Posted by no10pin

I think the larger point is that you came into the thread and indicated that he had the card back and wasn't refunding you, but you can clearly see on the tracking that he doesn't have it yet.

It would probably be best for both of you to stop calling each other out and handle via PMs like alleged adults.

I never said he had the card back. Yesterday the card was in transit coming toward Rhode Island and now it is back in Washington State heading back to his local post office which is pretty much another way of saying what I said. I never indicated he had the card back. That is what you said.

[cking]

Threads like this are the reason I do a very small amount of trading online.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by CardScout

I never said he had the card back. Yesterday the card was in transit coming toward Rhode Island and now it is back in Washington State heading back to his local post office which is pretty much another way of saying what I said. I never indicated he had the card back. That is what you said.

So why did you feel it necessary to point out that he hadn't refunded your money? Did you expect him to refund you when it made it to his state (which it apparently never left), or when he actually had it back in his possession?

You were just trying to make him look bad, again. There's no other reason for that post. Handle it through PMs and stop trying to shame each other.

[houdini]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Personally nothing against Blowout I love it but the first thing I am going to do after finishing this is find out what SCF is and become a member there. It seams like that might be a better place for conducting trades in my personal opinion. So if anyone could send me a link it would be greatly appreciated.

You need a link to find a sports card forum that just so happens to be called... SCF?

Here, allow me to Google that for you.

You will probably be better off using a different username though - otherwise this will justifiably follow you forever.

[Deathgate]

Originally Posted by houdini

You need a link to find a sports card forum that just so happens to be called... SCF?

Here, allow me to Google that for you.

You will probably be better off using a different username though - otherwise this will justifiably follow you forever.

HA!

I'm not allowed to send lmgtfy links at work anymore. I was told that sending the links, then closing the support tickets wasn't "good customer service." I argued that anyone getting the lmgtfy links wouldn't be classified as "good customers"

That didn't go over well, either.

[AlabamaSlamma]

Originally Posted by CardScout

Personally nothing against Blowout I love it but the first thing I am going to do after finishing this is find out what SCF is and become a member there. It seams like that might be a better place for conducting trades in my personal opinion. So if anyone could send me a link it would be greatly appreciated.

"Aloha" means "hello" and "goodbye."

Alo f***ing ha.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by AlabamaSlamma

"Aloha" means "hello" and "goodbye."

Alo f***ing ha.

[rustyisin]

Originally Posted by no10pin

So why did you feel it necessary to point out that he hadn't refunded your money? Did you expect him to refund you when it made it to his state (which it apparently never left), or when he actually had it back in his possession?

You were just trying to make him look bad, again. There's no other reason for that post. Handle it through PMs and stop trying to shame each other.

Cardscout has asked for all communication to be through this thread - not by private message

[DSizzle31]

Wow. Just goes to show, Itrader isn't the end all be all. Cardscout looks ridiculous in this. He expects a $2500 card to be shipped when all the seller has received is $700? IF YOU MAKE A TRADE AND NO SHIP DETAILS ARE SPECIFIED, IT IS IMPLIED THAT BOTH SHIP AT THE SAME TIME.

It is ridiculous for Cardscout to try and change that after Rusty had shipped. I don't blame Rusty at all for walking away at that point especially when he says that he was already taking a bunch of stuff in trade that he wouldn't normally take to try and help him acquire the card.

This is 100% on Cardscout. If he wasn't planning on shipping right away, he should've said so up front. If you have any doubt about who is the problem here, look no further than Cardscout's post telling us that the card is "back in WA state and he hasn't gotten a refund". That was obviously meant to make Rusty look bad and was deceitful. This thread has been eye opening.

[FreeMan12406]

This thread:

[CardScout]

Originally Posted by no10pin

So why did you feel it necessary to point out that he hadn't refunded your money? Did you expect him to refund you when it made it to his state (which it apparently never left), or when he actually had it back in his possession?

You were just trying to make him look bad, again. There's no other reason for that post. Handle it through PMs and stop trying to shame each other.

WHAT? Am I taking crazy pills or are you serious? Am I the post office? Why am I still responsible for him getting his package?

To answer your question I would have expected him to refund the money as soon as he knew the card was no longer coming to me and it was in transit back to his location. Why should he be holding my money until it makes it to his location? What if it gets lost in transit am I responsible for that? Should I have to pay him if the post office loses it? Or lets say they lose it and he has insurance should he hold my money until they pay for losing his package? Think about what your saying because to me it sounds absolutely ridiculous that he gets to hold my money after he broke off the trade and he already requested the post office return his package to him. Maybe just maybe I can see your point if the package went from Washington to Rhode Island and there was a chance that I might still receive the package but that is obviously not the case if after 4 days the package is back in Washington so I see no reason why I am not already refunded my payment. Really I don't think I could even see your point if I was the one who had the package returned to me. I truly feel like I would feel bad that the person is now going to have there money tied up with paypal I would not want to inconvenience them any further. I wouldn't see how this is an issue with me and that person so much as an issue with me and the post office at this point and I truly feel like I would feel that way even if I were him.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by CardScout

WHAT? Am I taking crazy pills or are you serious? Am I the post office? Why am I still responsible for him getting his package?

Good Lord. You know exactly what I meant by that. If you know the package is in WA, you know what the tracking number is. You also know that means he didn't have it at the time you posted.

He said he'd refund you when he got it back, so bumping the thread with an update that you didn't have your refund yet was just petty, because there was never any reason for you to expect a refund while the package was still en route. I have no idea why you want this to play out here instead of in PMs, but you aren't doing yourself any favors.

[BostonNut]

It's comical that the two of you are replying to everyone else but ignoring each other in this thread.

TALK!

[wethenorth]

Originally Posted by CardScout

WHAT? Am I taking crazy pills or are you serious? Am I the post office? Why am I still responsible for him getting his package?

To answer your question I would have expected him to refund the money as soon as he knew the card was no longer coming to me and it was in transit back to his location. Why should he be holding my money until it makes it to his location? What if it gets lost in transit am I responsible for that? Should I have to pay him if the post office loses it? Or lets say they lose it and he has insurance should he hold my money until they pay for losing his package? Think about what your saying because to me it sounds absolutely ridiculous that he gets to hold my money after he broke off the trade and he already requested the post office return his package to him. Maybe just maybe I can see your point if the package went from Washington to Rhode Island and there was a chance that I might still receive the package but that is obviously not the case if after 4 days the package is back in Washington so I see no reason why I am not already refunded my payment. Really I don't think I could even see your point if I was the one who had the package returned to me. I truly feel like I would feel bad that the person is now going to have there money tied up with paypal I would not want to inconvenience them any further. I wouldn't see how this is an issue with me and that person so much as an issue with me and the post office at this point and I truly feel like I would feel that way even if I were him.

so it's OK you are holding his cards (2500-700), but it's absolutely ridiculous that he's holding your 700. ok we get that.

here is a link to scf: https://goo.gl/NhPKDJ do ourselves a favour and go.

[FreeMan12406]

Ban this clown.

[rustyisin]

Recall of the pkg is not guaranteed by USPS.
There is nothing in tracking that would indicate that it isn't still headed toward Cardscout. I'm not sure how anyone knows the direction with the tracking info I've provided.

"so it's OK you are holding his cards (2500-700), but it's absolutely ridiculous that he's holding your 700. ok we get that".
Exactly!

Cardscout wants communication on this thread...that's fine.

There usually is a moment that our inner voice tells us that what we did is wrong, and we are sorry for it. That moment for me would have come before I created a thread like Cardscout did. Instead, he simply wanted affirmation that he was correct...but not to correct the unethical behavior. Asking for no more personal communication is an indicator that Cardscout thinks what he did is OK, that he's not sorry for it, and that he'll do it again.

Funny, he begs for me to leave his feedback alone...like somehow that's his entire reputation. Reputation is formed with a basket of items, feedback on this forum being one of them.
I still don't believe he doesn't have an ebay acct...come on!

[chezball]

Originally Posted by CardScout

WHAT? Am I taking crazy pills or are you serious? Am I the post office? Why am I still responsible for him getting his package?

To answer your question I would have expected him to refund the money as soon as he knew the card was no longer coming to me and it was in transit back to his location. Why should he be holding my money until it makes it to his location? What if it gets lost in transit am I responsible for that? Should I have to pay him if the post office loses it? Or lets say they lose it and he has insurance should he hold my money until they pay for losing his package? Think about what your saying because to me it sounds absolutely ridiculous that he gets to hold my money after he broke off the trade and he already requested the post office return his package to him. Maybe just maybe I can see your point if the package went from Washington to Rhode Island and there was a chance that I might still receive the package but that is obviously not the case if after 4 days the package is back in Washington so I see no reason why I am not already refunded my payment. Really I don't think I could even see your point if I was the one who had the package returned to me. I truly feel like I would feel bad that the person is now going to have there money tied up with paypal I would not want to inconvenience them any further. I wouldn't see how this is an issue with me and that person so much as an issue with me and the post office at this point and I truly feel like I would feel that way even if I were him.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by CardScout

WHAT? Am I taking crazy pills or are you serious? Am I the post office? Why am I still responsible for him getting his package?

To answer your question I would have expected him to refund the money as soon as he knew the card was no longer coming to me and it was in transit back to his location. Why should he be holding my money until it makes it to his location? What if it gets lost in transit am I responsible for that? Should I have to pay him if the post office loses it? Or lets say they lose it and he has insurance should he hold my money until they pay for losing his package? Think about what your saying because to me it sounds absolutely ridiculous that he gets to hold my money after he broke off the trade and he already requested the post office return his package to him. Maybe just maybe I can see your point if the package went from Washington to Rhode Island and there was a chance that I might still receive the package but that is obviously not the case if after 4 days the package is back in Washington so I see no reason why I am not already refunded my payment. Really I don't think I could even see your point if I was the one who had the package returned to me. I truly feel like I would feel bad that the person is now going to have there money tied up with paypal I would not want to inconvenience them any further. I wouldn't see how this is an issue with me and that person so much as an issue with me and the post office at this point and I truly feel like I would feel that way even if I were him.

So what happens if he refunds you and the card ends up in your hands? Recalling a package is not guaranteed it works most of the time but they do slip through. This is all your fault from the get go so I agree with him on holding it until he gets the item back in his hand.