GMA grading

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

If the item was for pennies. As stated, If I was interested in it. I'd have a crack at it. If I broke the case, I'd tell if it was a photo copy or a real one. If I couldn't though. I'd test it out. If I was wrong, then I'm out bgs fees and shipping. I'd be the sucker for the day. But what if I wasn't and the card was legit. What then?

But it was. Forget about the "What if" it was real. The fact is it was fake. GMA graded a fake/counterfeit photo copy of a card and it could not even tell the difference. Now you want to put money behind purchasing slabs of cards that you dont even think are real? Just take a gamble? Might pay off, might not? LOL.

[Branesergen]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

If the item was for pennies. As stated, If I was interested in it. I'd have a crack at it. If I broke the case, I'd tell if it was a photo copy or a real one. If I couldn't though. I'd test it out. If I was wrong, then I'm out bgs fees and shipping. I'd be the sucker for the day. But what if I wasn't and the card was legit. What then?

Be the guinea pig then! I don't think you really care tho. You just want to argue your "point". Since you won't listen to reason/others then put your money where your mouth is. Buy their cards, use their service and report back to us. No one here can give you a satisfactory answer cuz no one here is foolish enough to waste their money on a substandard service.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

That was the point of this topic. Is there a risk using gma? will my cards return ect. The only points you guys have made is it's ran out of a guys house and you think he is some fat, over weight slob that is mishandling the cards.. Without any proof.

Now I'm curious as to what PSA graders look like. I can't find images of them. Have any?

I don't care about gma grading.. I'm not advertising them. If you know another $2.50 slabbing company, please, let me know. Cause I'll ask the same question about them.

My valid reason, as stated many times, I want them slabbed without spending hundreds of dollars to do it for 10 cards. Cause frankly, these low end cards, I could careless about the grade. I just want them better protected so they don't receive the buttery goodness on my sausage links, or get dinged up corners cause they slid out of my greasy palms. If PSA would do it for $2.50. I'd send it to them, as long as they don't put that ugly label in the slab.

How much less could you care?

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

People are coming up with other topics, I'm just responding, having a conversation. No excuses.. I don't think what gma done is right, same with what I've heard about psa or bgs. My only concern is, can I get my card slabbed by gma and is it safe. Then all these other topics came up, not answering this one question, cause none of these guys responding has used their service. They are concerned about the company, just as I am. But no valid reasons why I shouldn't use their service.

This wasn't your only concern. But I'll ignore that for now since it been thoroughly discussed. If you have $65, you can get about 20 cards graded by GMA with to and from shipping of about $7. Or you can buy 1000 card saver 1s and your collection will be well-protected and look more legitimate.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

If the item was for pennies. As stated, If I was interested in it. I'd have a crack at it. If I broke the case, I'd tell if it was a photo copy or a real one. If I couldn't though. I'd test it out. If I was wrong, then I'm out bgs fees and shipping. I'd be the sucker for the day. But what if I wasn't and the card was legit. What then?

It will never be legit.

They graded a photocopy as an authentic autograph card from topps. End of story here. This means they can't identify a forgery or took part in the deception and forgery. Neither trust worthy. Buy a nice one touch if you want protection. Send yo GMA if you want to get a photocopy of a legit card.

[TWard]

GMA isn't a reputable grading company?

[Branesergen]

Ohhhh I've been sitting on this fake Jordan since 2004 - If I send it to GMA and get it graded would you, OP, give me $200 for it?

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

This wasn't your only concern. But I'll ignore that for now since it been thoroughly discussed. If you have $65, you can get about 20 cards graded by GMA with to and from shipping of about $7. Or you can buy 1000 card saver 1s and your collection will be well-protected and look more legitimate.

This over and over and over again. It's so ridiculously simple of a concept. Why risk shipments getting lost or damaged if the goal is strictly to protect your cards? Damn....this isn't rocket science. What's funny, too, is that the OP keeps using the protection argument, says the slabs for GMA and PSA are the same, but then claims PSA slabs let cards slide all over the place. Logic would tell you that he's a shill, and nothing more.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

Thing I find kind of funny about PSA, They graded over 20million cards, but only have 120,000 in their registry and only 1k in their psa/dna registry. I know the registry came later on. But don't you think, if you graded over a million cards. You would of came up with this idea sooner. Instead of waiting until 20million cards have been graded?

The owner of the card has to register it on the registry. I own lots of cards not on the registry, and some that are. Maybe that will help you understand some of that. Also, since the registry is so popular, maybe GMA should start one. I mean, they have been around for 12 years.

[Pilcrow]

Originally Posted by gopherfan

The owner of the card has to register it on the registry. I own lots of cards not on the registry, and some that are. Maybe that will help you understand some of that. Also, since the registry is so popular, maybe GMA should start one. I mean, they have been around for 12 years.

Didn't know that. Figured they done that in house before shipping the card back.

I agree, gma should. The thing I noticed, Older GMA grades just had GMAgrading.com in the bottom right corner. Now they have numbers.. Not sure if they are putting together their own data base for a site revamp, or if customers have a login to the site and can upload their info, or find their cards already.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

Didn't know that. Figured they done that in house before shipping the card back.

I agree, gma should. The thing I noticed, Older GMA grades just had GMAgrading.com in the bottom right corner. Now they have numbers.. Not sure if they are putting together their own data base for a site revamp, or if customers have a login to the site and can upload their info, or find their cards already.

I think you are confusing the registry with the ability to look up serial numbers in the database. As far as I can see, GMA doesn't even maintain a database.

[Pilcrow]

Some good videos to check out.

https://youtu.be/tXZGSq4Tkt0
https://youtu.be/mz08R5KRNG8
https://youtu.be/b4a57mRiBrg

[houdini]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

Some good videos to check out.

https://youtu.be/tXZGSq4Tkt0
https://youtu.be/mz08R5KRNG8
https://youtu.be/b4a57mRiBrg

I am going to be 100% honest here, I am actually thinking I will have to ban your account.

It's pretty clear you are trying to shill this #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ and I don't want that on this forum.

[Pilcrow]

Originally Posted by houdini

I am going to be 100% honest here, I am actually thinking I will have to ban your account.

It's pretty clear you are trying to shill this #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ and I don't want that on this forum.

I came back to this post cause someone brought it back. So looking into this particular company I found some good clips. Wish I would of done that sooner though, to be honest. Then I could go back to enjoying cards and collecting.

Whats the point of having a forum if people can't talk among one another?
Its against the rules to talk about other company's? If I came here and said "damn, fleer makes some really nice cards. Whats your thoughts on fleer guys" and everyone goes "they SUCK" without talking about why they suck or show proof of why they suck. Does that person also get banned cause he isn't apart of the "topps" crowd?

Be dumb, but what ever floats your boat bubble boy.

[Reverend Ghost]

Aaaaaaand it's gone

[Reverend Ghost]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

I came back to this post cause someone brought it back. So looking into this particular company I found some good clips. Wish I would of done that sooner though, to be honest. Then I could go back to enjoying cards and collecting.



Whats the point of having a forum if people can't talk among one another?

Its against the rules to talk about other company's? If I came here and said "damn, fleer makes some really nice cards. Whats your thoughts on fleer guys" and everyone goes "they SUCK" without talking about why they suck or show proof of why they suck. Does that person also get banned cause he isn't apart of the "topps" crowd?



Be dumb, but what ever floats your boat bubble boy.

There's such a huge difference in "talking about other companies" and what you did here.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

I came back to this post cause someone brought it back. So looking into this particular company I found some good clips. Wish I would of done that sooner though, to be honest. Then I could go back to enjoying cards and collecting.

Whats the point of having a forum if people can't talk among one another?
Its against the rules to talk about other company's? If I came here and said "damn, fleer makes some really nice cards. Whats your thoughts on fleer guys" and everyone goes "they SUCK" without talking about why they suck or show proof of why they suck. Does that person also get banned cause he isn't apart of the "topps" crowd?

Be dumb, but what ever floats your boat bubble boy.

[Wrigs37]

Originally Posted by houdini

I am going to be 100% honest here, I am actually thinking I will have to ban your account.

It's pretty clear you are trying to shill this #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ and I don't want that on this forum.

Aww shucks, Pilcrow is gone... Thank you Houdini!!

[glen87]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

I came back to this post cause someone brought it back. So looking into this particular company I found some good clips. Wish I would of done that sooner though, to be honest. Then I could go back to enjoying cards and collecting.

Whats the point of having a forum if people can't talk among one another?
Its against the rules to talk about other company's? If I came here and said "damn, fleer makes some really nice cards. Whats your thoughts on fleer guys" and everyone goes "they SUCK" without talking about why they suck or show proof of why they suck. Does that person also get banned cause he isn't apart of the "topps" crowd?

Be dumb, but what ever floats your boat bubble boy.

did he just call houdini - bubble boy?????

[glen87]

is that now an acceptable nickname for houdini????

[Art Vandelay]

Now if only someone could make GMA go away...

[glen87]

Originally Posted by glen87

is that now an acceptable nickname for houdini????

reckon so

[ThoseBackPages]

LOVE IT!

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by Pilcrow

Some good videos to check out.

https://youtu.be/tXZGSq4Tkt0
https://youtu.be/mz08R5KRNG8
https://youtu.be/b4a57mRiBrg

I didn't make it past the first video where the guy can't pronounce the word reptutable. And no where did he address the fake card gma purposely slabbed to deceive someone. Sooo in short

GMA is an awful shady company. And you're gone as I assume you would be shill.

[crpalmi]

Wow, interesting read with a not so surprising ending. There are clearly PSA disciples, and BGS disciples, but I am always at a loss for how quickly people are to assume negative intent to anyone other than well established dealers/companies. I'm no teenager so I've have had my share of bad transactions and getting scammed but there will be a level of that in any business or hobby. If you are smart you learn to eventually smell those out by asking questions and using caution but to just assume that a new trader or a new company for that matter are scammers is a sad way to approach a hobby.

No I have never sent cards in to GMA or any other company than PSA and BGS but I think others should be allowed to do what they want with their cards without getting scrutinized or ridiculed. The reason I won't use them is not because I believe they would not grade accurately (I haven't done the research to figure that out) but merely because I tend to use grading as a process to flip cards and the resell value is clearly not there if it's not PSA or BGS.

I was recently contacted by a local grading company that offered $2.25 service. I have seen their cards on Ebay occasionally and have not seen any negative issues with their ability to grade cards but even at that price I'm not going to use them because the resell value isn't there without a big name and set registry to back it. They actually took an interesting approach in the flyer they sent me as they cater to low priced modern stuff saying that it's not profitable to send in a $4 card to PSA, spend the $8-10 to grade it only to be able to sell it for $12-15 which is a break even. This company basically said grade your $4 card with us, spend $2 to grade it and flip it for $10-12. They admitted they would sell for less but in the end the potential for profit was still there. Still not using them but I thought it was an interesting corner of the grading market to target.

All in all I'm just saying buy from who you want to, grade with who you want to but to assume negative intent over and over again is not the way I choose to approach this hobby... but to each his own I guess.