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03-01-2019, 09:25 PM | #1 |
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Drew Brees RC Trims: Superior Sports Investments / Bill Sliheet eBay= marketplacessi
A little over two weeks ago, I received a lead on my e-mail tip line, superdan49@protonmail.com, from a concerned Blowout member that eBay user marketplacessi, operating a business known as Superior Sports Investments of Arlington, Texas, is selling numerous high-end trimmed cards certified by BGS and PSA. This seller is a member here on the Blowout Forums, under the username SSIGuy.
On Sunday evening, 2/24, I began a thread in the Basketball Hobby Talk entitled: "Attention BODA: Blowout Member SSIGuy Selling Altered Cards, eBay ID= marketplacessi." In it, I initially exposed four cards in the inventory of SSIGuy, graded by BGS and PSA, that definitively had been trimmed or altered. I urge you to read the whole thread if you have a spare hour. (To read, click the title above, or go to the Member Sales/Trade Feedback section, where the mods moved the original thread) To make a long story short, SSIGuy, who introduced himself as Bill John Sliheet, appeared in the thread, at first taking issue with my methodology in exposing him, but then resorting to making threats to sue Blowout, myself, and certain board members who criticized his business. He then began to hurl petty insults at members and made a veiled threat to BO member I Only Pull For that may be criminally actionable should I Only Pull For choose to pursue it (see post #134). In any event, more trimmed cards were soon discovered in Bill Sliheet's eBay inventory, and thanks to BO members it was firmly established that one of those cards, a 2011 Topps Update Black JD Martinez, serial numbered 03/60 and graded BGS 9.5, was purchased raw off eBay, shipped to the buyer, slightly trimmed, delivered to Beckett, and graded all within the short span of 15 days. It has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Bill Sliheet / Superior Sports Investments was the submitter of that tainted card. (see post #228, post #243 and post #246) In another twist, last night, a brand-new BO member named Iceman1982 came into the thread attacking all the members — ironically—for maintaining their anonymity. Houdini soon banned Iceman, and members agree that this was an attempt by Sliheet or someone associated with him to derail the thread and deflect from the issue at hand. Because of that naked attempt to derail the original thread, I have decided to start a new thread here in the football section with three yet-to-be documented Drew Brees high-end rookie cards, all graded by BGS or PSA, owned by Sliheet, and all trimmed. This thread is exclusively about football cards, and adheres to the principles laid out in Houdini's "Official Callout Thread Guide." Should you post in this thread, I strongly advise you to adhere to these principles. Now without further ado, here are the three Brees cards (in two non-consecutive posts): Drew Brees 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Chicago Collection RC #'d 02/05 BGS 9.5 Sold raw on eBay June 26, 2017 Graded on July 24, 2017 https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-leaf-r.../132952044205? https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-rc-1874425495 Drew Brees 2001 Fleer Authority Autographs RC BGS 9.5 Sold as BGS 8.5 (RCR) on March 2, 2018 Graded on June 14, 2018 https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-fleer-...IAAOSw-GNcN7Ex https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...uto-1916930631 Drew Brees 2001 UD Game Gear Autographs PSA 9 Sold raw on April 2, 2018 Graded on N/A (PSA does not provide this data to the public) https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-u-d-ga.../132951729181? https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...phs-1921596466 |
03-01-2019, 09:37 PM | #2 |
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Look how much was taken off the edge of the R&S:
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03-01-2019, 09:41 PM | #3 |
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This guy has such awful luck buying all of these trimmed cards. Hope he can get his money back.
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03-01-2019, 09:41 PM | #4 |
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03-01-2019, 09:45 PM | #5 |
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Did you make sure to PM him to alert him of these issues so he can look into it before starting this thread???
Lol jk great catches on these. This guy is total scum Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
03-01-2019, 09:58 PM | #6 |
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By my count this is now the 8th thread regarding scamming/trimming/thievery/etc. that I have subscribed to in the past 2 months. smh at what this "hobby" has become. And it doesn't look like it's stopping any time soon.
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03-01-2019, 10:10 PM | #7 |
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Nice job SuperDan...you have earned your user name.
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03-01-2019, 10:17 PM | #8 |
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At least 2 out of these 3 cards were purchased by Superior Sports Investments AKA GradeTheseCards AKA marketplacessi AKA alotofrookies AKA superiorsportsinv AKA Bill Sliheet IN AN UNTRIMMED STATE. They were then TRIMMED IN SSI’S POSSESSION. Read further for details and proof.
Drew Brees 2001 Fleer Authority Autographs RC BGS 9.5 – PURCHASED UNTRIMMED BY superiorsportsinv Using the unique description of this item on Worthpoint (specifically the phrase “only special circumstances”), I was able to find the Ebay seller of the untrimmed card, gradedauthentic: https://www.ebay.com/usr/gradedauthe...p2047675.l2559 I then parsed their feedback for the Brees and found it was purchased by no other than superiorsportsinv, which is an alternate account for marketplaceSSI. Note the EXACT title match of the feedback comment and the Worthpoint listing. Live FB page: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30 Drew Brees 2001 UD Game Gear Autographs PSA 9 – PURCHASED UNTRIMMED BY superiorsportsinv For this one I used a slightly different process to identify that superiorsportsinv was the purchaser of the item shown in the Worthpoint listing above. The original seller is andremorri_10: https://www.ebay.com/usr/andremorri_10 The card was again purchased by superiorsportsinv. Again, note the EXACT title match of the feedback comment and the Worthpoint listing. Live FB page: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30 Also, for further independent proof, note the similar descriptions between the Worthpoint listing in the OP and the following listing of andremorri_10: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Fines...vu9:rk:12:pf:0 "I am beginning to sell my collection and have several items please check them out!" CONFIRMED CARD TRIMMER: |
03-01-2019, 10:31 PM | #9 |
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Got him! Nice job Dan!
Can we sue him?
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03-01-2019, 10:39 PM | #10 |
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3124508 carried the load in the Brees investigation, I merely coordinated with him to make sure everything was airtight. And pejc300 found the evidence in the first thread that was the smoking gun. I'm just the guy whose anonymous tip line got the ball rolling.
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03-01-2019, 10:48 PM | #11 |
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Typically the more Ebay name changes and aliases = more military history and God Bless'es.
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03-01-2019, 10:50 PM | #12 |
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03-01-2019, 10:57 PM | #13 |
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oh my!
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03-01-2019, 11:06 PM | #14 | |
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Guy seems like a real Saint. And all of his accounts have quite a bit of history. I imagine he's pulling in a good 6-7 digits a year 'giving back' to the community. |
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03-01-2019, 11:20 PM | #15 |
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Thank you for the link to the other thread. I never go to that forum so I never saw it.
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03-01-2019, 11:37 PM | #16 |
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Just a matter of time before he creates a blowout burner account claiming that his 2010 Kia Soul was jacked with his son's MJ collection inside.
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03-01-2019, 11:47 PM | #17 |
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Houdini, you NEED to ban this scum.
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03-01-2019, 11:48 PM | #18 |
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03-02-2019, 12:09 AM | #19 |
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For every 1 card of Sliheet's I could definitively proved was trimmed, there were about 20 that I strongly believe are trimmed, but either I couldn't locate the item on Worthpoint or the original seller took crappy photos.
BO member SSIGuy has as been proven to: 1) have purchased unaltered raw cards and then sell trimmed versions of the same cards; 2) threatened BO members with frivolous lawsuits in an effort to stifle a legitimate consumer protection investigation; 3) said to a member that there was "nothing 'empty' or 'cyber'" about his threats; 4) attempted to use his brother's past military service to lend credence to his narrative; and 5) created or likely had a hand in the creation of the troll account Iceman1982. The hammer needs to fall. |
03-02-2019, 12:20 AM | #20 |
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03-02-2019, 05:12 AM | #21 |
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Great work Dan!
I took your last photo and added yellow arrows to specific points on each image. You will notice that on the raw card at the bottom, there is a small portion of the gold "bolt" that is visible. In the top photo of the same card graded it has been trimmed away. Bill John Sliheet looks to be pondering his next move...
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03-02-2019, 06:29 AM | #22 |
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Superdan, Thank you for your incredible work. My wife loves murder mystery tv, I read these threads. Anyone buying high end cards must do major due diligence before purchasing a card.
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03-02-2019, 07:13 AM | #23 |
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How dare you post a picture of Bill and not post a picture of yourself! How can anyone take this anonymous message board seriously?
The National is going to be a lot of fun.
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