Luka Doncic Questionable Autograph Analysis - Page 51

Biggums7 · 07-24-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Ill be there, and Ill be one of the people asking.

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Video it for us lol

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggums7

Video it for us lol

I'll do what I can but no promises on video footage lol. Im just hoping it will become very clear to Panini that this is a serious issue they need to publicly resolve.

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KidKards101 · 07-24-2019, 02:17 PM

To those spending five figures on Luka's NT RPA's, well that's on them.. It's their money, they can do whatever they want. I'm not putting that kind of money on it and will stay clear from it even if I can afford it.

My decision on this debate is still the same and I have not changed my stance since Day 1. I've been 100% on my decision even before the UD autos came out.

Lucky, I know you've been very consistent with your investigations and insights that Luka signed all his autos, but man give it a break. You're pretty much forcing everyone on here to believe he really did sign everything, let everyone else come to their own conclusions. We can all agree to disagree. or vise versa.

Do you work for Panini or something? There is a board member from the CGC comic book forums who is exactly like you. His name his Jaydog and basically he posts the same sort of things, never to be proven wrong, only sticking to his beliefs regardless of how much evidence me and everyone else provides. His argument stems from page quality on comics (among other things), that there is no price difference between a book with white pages and a book with lesser page quality same cream pages. Well, time and time again and from sales alone and people who have expressed their opinions, the majority in agreement said that white paged comics command a premium over lesser quality pages, and it makes sense. But yet Jaydog continues to provide sales from different years, and practically handpicking them to strengthen his arguments.

Not sure if you guys are the same, but you both have exactly the same ideas.

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 02:34 PM

Yes I am Jaydog, and I work for Panini. Nailed it.

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WallyatJCCards · 07-24-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Im just hoping it will become very clear to Panini that this is a serious issue they need to publicly resolve.

Along with redemptions which they have privately and [publicly never addressed.... :-)

KidKards101 · 07-24-2019, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Yes I am Jaydog, and I work for Panini. Nailed it.

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That explains it

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WallyatJCCards

Along with redemptions which they have privately and [publicly never addressed.... :-)

Luka has redemptions in Opulence, Chronicles, and a few in Noir. Based on his IG he's been traveling all over the world since his season ended. I doubt he's spent much time in Dallas. But yes I will ask about the redemptions.

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cardmole · 07-24-2019, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

I'll do what I can but no promises on video footage lol. Im just hoping it will become very clear to Panini that this is a serious issue they need to publicly resolve.

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Panini can't stay silent about this. There reputation (such that it is) is at stake.

KidKards101 · 07-24-2019, 02:50 PM

Class action lawsuit coming, I can feel it...

cardmole · 07-24-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KidKards101

Class action lawsuit coming, I can feel it...

Luka's auto on those legal papers will be genuine.

Deadshot · 07-24-2019, 02:57 PM

There's no legal ground for a class action suit. I thought we would've seen it by now, but I figure sooner or later this situation will get the "Shaq treatment."

Jasondr91 · 07-24-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Real or fake?

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This signature (I'm not sure where it's a sample from) looks more in line to be authentic. From what I see in known copies Luka did sign, the "L" is shorter and has a very distinctive slant to the right. The loopy "Lulu" autos are very forward, large and have zero slant, ever. and the L starts quite large with the loop.

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

This signature (I'm not sure where it's a sample from) looks more in line to be authentic. From what I see in known copies Luka did sign, the "L" is shorter and has a very distinctive slant to the right. The loopy "Lulu" autos are very forward, large and have zero slant, ever. and the L starts quite large with the loop.

That auto was from his Exquisite autos so well done. I guess I lead you into that one though. Gotta make it tougher.

Level 2:

Find the Luka Exquisite Auto out of these:
A)

B)

C)

D)

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theleica · 07-24-2019, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

That auto was from his Exquisite autos so well done. I guess I lead you into that one though. Gotta make it tougher.

Level 2:

Find the Luka Exquisite Auto out of these:
A)

B)

C)

D)

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What does this prove? If someone guesses wrong you say gotcha?

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

What does this prove? If someone guesses wrong you say gotcha?

It proves this isnt as black and white as some casual observors think.

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theleica · 07-24-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

That auto was from his Exquisite autos so well done. I guess I lead you into that one though. Gotta make it tougher.

Level 2:

Find the Luka Exquisite Auto out of these:
A)

B)

C)

D)

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

It proves this isnt as black and white as some casual observors think.

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You believe all his autographed cards are signed by him so to you it is black and white.

theLUCKYshow · 07-24-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

You believe all his autographed cards are signed by him so to you it is black and white.

Just take a guess.

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Bruin7 · 07-24-2019, 04:03 PM

You should find Steve Grad and lure him over to Panini with a few Luka examples in hand . Would love to see him take out his iPad and explain it lol.

wickedliquids · 07-24-2019, 04:34 PM

wow, this thread is still going??? Jeesh...

Jasondr91 · 07-25-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

That auto was from his Exquisite autos so well done. I guess I lead you into that one though. Gotta make it tougher.

Level 2:

Find the Luka Exquisite Auto out of these:
A)

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Example A looks the most like his auto, but the perfect loops is concerning.

theLUCKYshow · 07-25-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

Example A looks the most like his auto, but the perfect loops is concerning.

Good eye! How did you sniff that one out? And are you "Luka might not sign all his Exquisites" concerned or "Luka might sign all his autos" concerned?

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Jasondr91 · 07-25-2019, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Good eye! How did you sniff that one out? And are you "Luka might not sign all his Exquisites" concerned or "Luka might sign all his autos" concerned?

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I don't see any player signing half of the cards at one sitting, then having someone else pen the remaining ones. To me there is a pretty distinctive difference in Luka cards signed, and someone else ghost signing for him. I've seen quite a few Panini products which look good, then seen plenty that look like a female inked them.

The slant to the right in his signature, and the shortened beginning on the letter "L" in Luka are easy spots for me. I hope to meet you with kukocitb at the National!

rogermaris · 07-25-2019, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

To me there is a pretty distinctive difference in Luka cards signed, and someone else ghost signing for him.

The slant to the right in his signature, and the shortened beginning on the letter "L" in Luka are easy spots for me.

QFT. There's a reason I and others were able to confidently say Luka signed his Exquisites without needing proof that he signed them. The proof is in the signature.

theLUCKYshow · 07-25-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

I don't see any player signing half of the cards at one sitting, then having someone else pen the remaining ones.

If you believe Luka has a ghostwriter, then this happened in Optic. Remember, Luka's Optic non-holo autos featured his scribbly auto as well as his "lilu" and "lulu" autos.

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

I hope to meet you with kukocitb at the National!

For sure! Ill see you either latenight @ trade night (flying in @ 830 thurs) or Friday @ the show.

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theLUCKYshow · 07-26-2019, 01:10 AM

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KidKards101 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,684	To those spending five figures on Luka's NT RPA's, well that's on them.. It's their money, they can do whatever they want. I'm not putting that kind of money on it and will stay clear from it even if I can afford it. My decision on this debate is still the same and I have not changed my stance since Day 1. I've been 100% on my decision even before the UD autos came out. Lucky, I know you've been very consistent with your investigations and insights that Luka signed all his autos, but man give it a break. You're pretty much forcing everyone on here to believe he really did sign everything, let everyone else come to their own conclusions. We can all agree to disagree. or vise versa. Do you work for Panini or something? There is a board member from the CGC comic book forums who is exactly like you. His name his Jaydog and basically he posts the same sort of things, never to be proven wrong, only sticking to his beliefs regardless of how much evidence me and everyone else provides. His argument stems from page quality on comics (among other things), that there is no price difference between a book with white pages and a book with lesser page quality same cream pages. Well, time and time again and from sales alone and people who have expressed their opinions, the majority in agreement said that white paged comics command a premium over lesser quality pages, and it makes sense. But yet Jaydog continues to provide sales from different years, and practically handpicking them to strengthen his arguments. Not sure if you guys are the same, but you both have exactly the same ideas.

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