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Old 08-23-2020, 10:54 AM   #26
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:56 AM   #27
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Old 08-23-2020, 11:08 AM   #28
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Indulging in baseless speculation...

According to Spotrac, Phil Hughes earned about $81.6 million as a player. Take out for taxes and agent fees, he probably netted somewhere around $45 million.

Obviously, he’s spent some of that. But maybe he has also invested well... Is that enough net worth to comfortably invest nearly $4 million into a piece of cardboard?


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Old 08-23-2020, 11:10 AM   #29
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Not sure if it's hedge funds or not. But it does seem kind of inflated. I'd rather have a 10 '52 Mantle or the Wagner card myself. But that's just me.
Apples and Oranges comparison imo. Part of this is potential, remember some people think Trout can be the best to ever play the game when its all said and done, the superfractor is a true 1/1, not a graded 1/1 and it's signed. Besides who knows, if the highest graded 52 Mantle or Highest graded Wagner gets put up for sale today, it might command even more money.
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Old 08-23-2020, 11:15 AM   #30
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Indulging in baseless speculation...

According to Spotrac, Phil Hughes earned about $81.6 million as a player. Take out for taxes and agent fees, he probably netted somewhere around $45 million.

Obviously, he’s spent some of that. But maybe he has also invested well... Is that enough net worth to comfortably invest nearly $4 million into a piece of cardboard?


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Was Phil Hughes the buyer of this Trout??


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Old 08-23-2020, 11:33 AM   #31
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I have no reason to believe that. I prefaced by saying I was indulging in “baseless speculation.”


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Old 08-23-2020, 11:34 AM   #32
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I have no reason to believe that. I prefaced by saying I was indulging in “baseless speculation.”


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He already has the Tatis superfractor PSA 10. Who needs a lousy Trout one .
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Old 08-23-2020, 06:53 PM   #33
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I wonder if Vegas Dave gave Goldin his father's ssn for tax purposes. Or maybe he learned that lesson already....
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:37 AM   #34
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Default Mike Trout Superfractor sets new all-time record with $3.9M sale

An Action Comics #1 CGC 9.0 White Pages sold for around 3.2m back in 2014 on eBay. Granted that was back in 2014 and the collectible market has changed over years....but man I’m having a hard time seeing how this surpasses the iconic, influential, holy grail of comics in an essentially impossible grade. To each his own. I’m sure the sale helps increase interest/value in the hobby- ESPN was mentioning it over their bottom ticker, and many articles on it.
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:43 AM   #35
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An Action Comics #1 CGC 9.0 White Pages sold for around 3.2m back in 2014 on eBay. Granted that was back in 2014 and the collectible market has changed over years....but man I’m having a hard time seeing how this surpasses the iconic, influential, holy grail of comics in an essentially impossible grade. To each his own. I’m sure the sale helps increase interest/value in the hobby- ESPN was mentioning it over their bottom ticker.
I'm not sure you can compare comic book collecting to baseball cards.
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Old 08-24-2020, 11:42 AM   #36
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Right now, I think only the three PSA 10 1952 Mantles would sell more than the Trout Superfractor did. Normally, I would include the Wagner T-206 but with the stigma of it possibly/probably being trimmed, I don't know if someone wants to pay $4 million for it.
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:08 PM   #37
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Seriously, I am gonna miss Vegas Dave... one man gang of sports card promotion of Trout cards.

Oh wait...doesn't he have several more Trout biggies?
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:34 PM   #38
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Lot of money for a guy without ONE top 100 season.
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:44 PM   #39
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Lot of money for a guy without ONE top 100 season.
Top 100 in what?
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:49 PM   #40
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A ‘52 Topps PSA 10 Mantle would easily pass $3.9M. Easily.

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Top 100 in what?
Got to love the trout hate. Even if he was just average and had 3 WAR per year the rest of his career he’d have a chance to be one of the 10-20 players of all time still...and there is nothing to indicate that happens.
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Right now, I think only the three PSA 10 1952 Mantles would sell more than the Trout Superfractor did. Normally, I would include the Wagner T-206 but with the stigma of it possibly/probably being trimmed, I don't know if someone wants to pay $4 million for it.
PSA 8 Wagner would get $10M+. Jumbo Wagner would get well over $5M.

The 52 Mantle gems could rival the PSA 8 Wagner. PSA 9 would definitely outsell the Trout Super now.
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Lot of money for a guy without ONE top 100 season.
It's crazy isn't it? He's had as many seasons under a .300 BA as over it and his career BA is only .304. Only 3 seasons over 100 RBIs too
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It's crazy isn't it? He's had as many seasons under a .300 BA as over it and his career BA is only .304. Only 3 seasons over 100 RBIs too
I’m sorry, this is so dumb.
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Old 08-24-2020, 01:28 PM   #45
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It's crazy isn't it? He's had as many seasons under a .300 BA as over it and his career BA is only .304. Only 3 seasons over 100 RBIs too
This is a shaky claim at best.

In eight full seasons, he's hit >.300 five times ('12, '13, '16, '17, '18) and <.300 three times ('14, 15, '19). In two of those below .300 seasons, he won MVP.

Further, he's a career .319 hitter with RISP, so the lack of RBI is much more a product of the Angels being trash.

Trout's start to his career is historic no matter how you slice it.
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Old 08-24-2020, 01:29 PM   #46
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Lot of money for a guy without ONE top 100 season.
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Glaus was actually better his first full time 4 years...thru 500 games...

Probably around 130 homers and 350 RBIs

His 162 game average for career is basically "peak" trout...

So let's not waste our time comparing him to all time greats..
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Mike Trout is Jim edmonds minus the great defense.

To even compare him to Bonds, griffey, arod, Pujols, Miggy and all the old greats is a joke.
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He's Jim edmonds with a worse average.

Mind you, edmonds was probably better than Trout.
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Baseball steroid era was great.
Stopped watching baseball after it was gone.

To me Trout is not even as good as Jim Edmonds in his prime.

At 34 he was putting up 42hrs, 111rbi, .301 with great defense...
That's already a better year than any Trout has done....mr. MVP lol
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All his MVP's seasons are mediocre.

29 hr 100 rbi .315 avg

That's a bad season for a lot of great players not MVP.
Complete joke.

Everyone crushes every Mike Trout Season, A-rod, Miggy, Pujols, Bonds, Griffey, Juan Gonzalez, everyone.
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Griffey hit 50 hrs 140rbi and stole bases plus great defense

Stop talking about WAR since Trout is just an average ball player.

WAR means #@#@#@#@.

Made up stat to make you feel good about your hero.
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Why are you paying so much for Trout when he's just another 30 hr, 100 rbi . 300 avg. player on a losing team??

Dime a dozen except he started young so everyone is excited that he can put up Jim Thome type numbers if he plays 20 years.
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WAR is a made up stat which proves nothing.

Trout is not even in the same league as griffey/Pujols/Miggy/arod/Bonds/etc.

Trout's BEST season does not even rank in the top 100.

Why do you have to use WAR for trout?
Why not OPS, hrs, rbis, avg., etc...

Oh yeah, because he's the most overrated player in the world.

If he hits .350 50hr 150rbis once then maybe he can be talked about as something but even then that's one year and he still won't do that.

Why won't he? Because he's not that great.
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Trout probably has been on PED's since young.

His stats are average compared to anyone from the 90s let alone bonds.

He won't shatter any records.

WAR is a joke stat.

Strikeouts every 1/3 rd at bat and still can't 50 Homers with no neck.

That's how sad the state of baseball is.
If somehow he was so valuable as WAR his team wouldn't be so #@#@#@#@ all the time.
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This is a shaky claim at best.

In eight full seasons, he's hit >.300 five times ('12, '13, '16, '17, '18) and <.300 three times ('14, 15, '19). In two of those below .300 seasons, he won MVP.

Further, he's a career .319 hitter with RISP, so the lack of RBI is much more a product of the Angels being trash.

Trout's start to his career is historic no matter how you slice it.
I should add that I agree that $3.9 mil is wild and that I own zero good trout cards, which is to say, there's no pump coming from me.
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This is a shaky claim at best.

In eight full seasons, he's hit >.300 five times ('12, '13, '16, '17, '18) and <.300 three times ('14, 15, '19). In two of those below .300 seasons, he won MVP.

Further, he's a career .319 hitter with RISP, so the lack of RBI is much more a product of the Angels being trash.

Trout's start to his career is historic no matter how you slice it.
I was being sarcastic
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I was being sarcastic
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