2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Well for the third time in 24 hours I'll post this again.......

Maybe you should just stop posting then

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/23/same/

Once again....

[DegaBama]

I'm still waiting for someone to ask, "The curve is flat, why are there still lockdowns?" The whole purpose of the shutdown was to not overwhelm hospitals. Well, it has been months, what are we doing?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

I'm still waiting for someone to ask, "The curve is flat, why are there still lockdowns?" The whole purpose of the shutdown was to not overwhelm hospitals. Well, it has been months, what are we doing?

I’ve asked that plenty of times. There is no goal now. We have no idea what we’re actually doing.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

I'm still waiting for someone to ask, "The curve is flat, why are there still lockdowns?" The whole purpose of the shutdown was to not overwhelm hospitals. Well, it has been months, what are we doing?

Seems many have been sitting in their basements for the past 6 months soiling themselves. They are afraid to go out and see the boogieman.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Great pic, I got an even better one from directly underneath it last weekend.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

If you want to pay 40-50% of your hard earned money to the government so that lazy people can live better move to europe. The rest of us will gladly stay here in the USA where you don't get penalized for being a motivated entrepreneur and achieving the American dream. By the way how is Europe doing through this whole Covid thing? No deaths or economic problems because of their great leadership? I heard they were shutting down again due to spikes in covid cases and deaths. Apperantly those billions of extra dollars in taxes didn't save everyone??

One thing that seems to get overlooked in the whole, “tax the rich harder,” is... what happens when you tax them to the point that they take their businesses and all of the economic growth that comes with those businesses to another country where doing business is suddenly more attractive?

I want the most capable people in our country to be incentivized to do whatever it is that they do. It’s unreasonable to expect them to do the heavy lifting only to get taxed even harder than the rest of us. I understand they benefit from society financially. I don’t care. What I care about is keeping America awesome, and sometimes these cute ideas of “fair” aren’t practical in reality. Many of those crying “not fair” are easily replaceable and add little value to society, if any.

One of the beautiful things about America is that opportunity is there for the taking. I know too many people who started in worse situations than literally anyone in America that have come here and thrived. Their success puts mine to shame when you factor in the advantages I have of being born here and speaking the native language.

[oldgoldy97]

[oldgoldy97]

Maybe US companies can pay their employees in retail wax. Then they’ll move jobs back here.

[ballhawkdawk]

Pictures of bridges.... pictures of phones.... solid contributions today.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

One thing that seems to get overlooked in the whole, “tax the rich harder,” is... what happens when you tax them to the point that they take their businesses and all of the economic growth that comes with those businesses to another country where doing business is suddenly more attractive?

I want the most capable people in our country to be incentivized to do whatever it is that they do. It’s unreasonable to expect them to do the heavy lifting only to get taxed even harder than the rest of us. I understand they benefit from society financially. I don’t care. What I care about is keeping America awesome, and sometimes these cute ideas of “fair” aren’t practical in reality. Many of those crying “not fair” are easily replaceable and add little value to society, if any.

One of the beautiful things about America is that opportunity is there for the taking. I know too many people who started in worse situations than literally anyone in America that have come here and thrived. Their success puts mine to shame when you factor in the advantages I have of being born here and speaking the native language.

The problem is, we have a large segment that wants theirs while doing as little work as possible. They want instant gratification.

We all have the same opportunity. My father-in-law graduated at 39 with an engineering degree. He had very little money, and five kids. His wife died when all his kids were in high school/college. A few years later, by 50, he owned commercial property and rented out 8 spaces to businesses. He has now retired with a nice nest egg, a building paid off, and those same 8 spaces paying him every month.

He's my inspiration.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

The problem is, we have a large segment that wants theirs while doing as little work as possible. They want instant gratification.

We all have the same opportunity. My father-in-law graduated at 39 with an engineering degree. He had very little money, and five kids. His wife died when all his kids were in high school/college. A few years later, by 50, he owned commercial property and rented out 8 spaces to businesses. He has now retired with a nice nest egg, a building paid off, and those same 8 spaces paying him every month.

He's my inspiration.

Bingo.

Now I can’t agree with you for another 72 hours.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Pictures of bridges.... pictures of phones.... solid contributions today.

The most successful company ever uses China. And not because of who’s in office. It’s because it’s cheaper.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Bingo.

Now I can’t agree with you for another 72 hours.

Hahaha, fair enough

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Heel booted and this fella steps right in. Coincidence I guess...

get a clue newby.



sentence structure is nothing like heel's and heel wouldn't rage like this.

[thenwhatjk]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

One thing that seems to get overlooked in the whole, “tax the rich harder,” is... what happens when you tax them to the point that they take their businesses and all of the economic growth that comes with those businesses to another country where doing business is suddenly more attractive?

I want the most capable people in our country to be incentivized to do whatever it is that they do. It’s unreasonable to expect them to do the heavy lifting only to get taxed even harder than the rest of us. I understand they benefit from society financially. I don’t care. What I care about is keeping America awesome, and sometimes these cute ideas of “fair” aren’t practical in reality. Many of those crying “not fair” are easily replaceable and add little value to society, if any.

One of the beautiful things about America is that opportunity is there for the taking. I know too many people who started in worse situations than literally anyone in America that have come here and thrived. Their success puts mine to shame when you factor in the advantages I have of being born here and speaking the native language.

Ok Ayn

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

The problem is, we have a large segment that wants theirs while doing as little work as possible. They want instant gratification.

We all have the same opportunity. My father-in-law graduated at 39 with an engineering degree. He had very little money, and five kids. His wife died when all his kids were in high school/college. A few years later, by 50, he owned commercial property and rented out 8 spaces to businesses. He has now retired with a nice nest egg, a building paid off, and those same 8 spaces paying him every month.

He's my inspiration.

I'm with you, and 100% agree.



My neighbor can't find a kid to mow his lawn that would probably take an hour for $25 bucks.


When I was a teenager, I would have jumped all over that.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I'm with you, and 100% agree.



My neighbor can't find a kid to mow his lawn that would probably take an hour for $25 bucks.


When I was a teenager, I would have jumped all over that.

Heck, I'd do that now haha.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Heck, I'd do that now haha.

I did it a couple times for him for free, but my work schedule is really irregular and the time to mow the lawn can vary depending on rain amounts, etc...


edit: Not really free, he gave me a 4 pack of Sam Adams IPA, so that was nice.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

get a clue newby.



sentence structure is nothing like heel's and heel wouldn't rage like this.

.

Daz true.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

The most successful company ever uses China. And not because of who’s in office. It’s because it’s cheaper.

Yep. And the lefts answer is "tax them more" that will teach them.

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[Onions]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I'm with you, and 100% agree.



My neighbor can't find a kid to mow his lawn that would probably take an hour for $25 bucks.


When I was a teenager, I would have jumped all over that.

My 14 year old daughter gets $40 to mow our neighbors lawn. I thought they were crazy giving her that much. Takes her about 45 minutes including trimming. I had to buy her a mower and battery powered trimmer, but it has been the best investment I could have made. She insisted on paying off the cost of the mower and now owns it. $1400 in her savings account right now and is saving for a car. Proud father right here!

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

For what? Saying that if Trump dies I won't feel bad. Should I have felt bad in Germany in 1933 if Hitler would have gotten sick and I wouldn't have been unhappy if he died? Didn't people celebrate when Osama Bin Laden died, after all he was a living person with a family?

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

There it is! Both sides are just as bad!

Again, is everyone supposed to just sit back and try to be understanding when the president calls nazis good people?

You're not calling out anything. Turn off the fake cable news and do some more research. Read the transcripts.

Trump never called "nazis good people". You probably also believe that he told people to inject bleach, or that Mexicans are rapists, or that locking "kids in cages" was his idea.

The latest fake news narrative is that The Proud Boys are a white supremacist group.

Trump is a lot of things, but he is not a nazi, or white supremacist. His Jewish grandchildren agree with my opinion.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Onions

My 14 year old daughter gets $40 to mow our neighbors lawn. I thought they were crazy giving her that much. Takes her about 45 minutes including trimming. I had to buy her a mower and battery powered trimmer, but it has been the best investment I could have made. She insisted on paying off the cost of the mower and now owns it. $1400 in her savings account right now and is saving for a car. Proud father right here!

Awesome!!!

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[lietuvalabas]

Originally Posted by Onions

My 14 year old daughter gets $40 to mow our neighbors lawn. I thought they were crazy giving her that much. Takes her about 45 minutes including trimming. I had to buy her a mower and battery powered trimmer, but it has been the best investment I could have made. She insisted on paying off the cost of the mower and now owns it. $1400 in her savings account right now and is saving for a car. Proud father right here!

this is amazing, good for you. Even better for her. Man.. $40 though? i used to do them for $20, what an idiot...

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

The problem is, we have a large segment that wants theirs while doing as little work as possible. They want instant gratification.

We all have the same opportunity. My father-in-law graduated at 39 with an engineering degree. He had very little money, and five kids. His wife died when all his kids were in high school/college. A few years later, by 50, he owned commercial property and rented out 8 spaces to businesses. He has now retired with a nice nest egg, a building paid off, and those same 8 spaces paying him every month.

He's my inspiration.

The concept of risk vs. reward is also missed. Your father-in-law assumed a degree of risk when he invested in a degree. He assumed even greater risk when he bought his commercial property. The risk/reward scales up and down. The people who make the most also have the most to lose... it comes with the territory.

How can we suggest taxing them heavier than everyone else while offering no benefit to them in return, under the premise that they’re evil for being more successful than everyone else? What incentive is there to assume the risk at this point? Or do we just think shaming them into submission is an effective strategy?

There’s obviously a sweet spot with taxes, and I don’t know where it is, but expecting people to have the same motivation to produce, innovate, and take on risk while neutering the most attractive incentive ($$$) is shortsighted to me. I would personally never expect anyone to do something out of charity, and such a system seems destined to fail. I believe that fair is fair, and the potential rewards one has available to them should be commensurate with the amount of skin they have in the game.