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BoxBreaker72 · 11-05-2020, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CC_123

Higher voter turnout this election.

Higher than it was for the first POC candidate that inspired and had unmatched charisma? Obama was the best first time candidate in history. His turnout was amazing.

For an old, Boring, 78 year old like Biden to get more than that is incomprehensible. He didn't campaign, he has zero charisma and he's had multiple failed runs. Yet. he is on track to break records?? Please.

mike1498 · 11-05-2020, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

I disagree. I think the GOP knows that they are divided and the party will splinter similar to the DEM.

To me, this is great.

We should have moderate democrats and moderate republicans as the majorities, and then have smaller, outside factions of far left and far right.

4 parties? Sign me up.

I disagree with this. I think the difference between the radical left and the moderate left is how much they feel the government should intervene. The level of intervention is completely different and I think the party will be split for a while until one concedes (which I think ultimately it will become the moderate half).

What is the main difference between moderate and radical republicans? I feel they are closer aligned than the radical left and moderate left. Like I've said before, I don't see there being 3 parties, let alone four. The left is split but I ultimately see the radical left winning that.

Boo · 11-05-2020, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Just under 95% of the vote counted in PA; Trump still up 117,000 votes. Dems confident when all the votes are counted, they'll be ahead.

So are republicans. LOL.

I'm still saying Trump, he's got some counties that will give him more of a lead.

tennelson55 · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GOWIFB

So let me make sure I have this correct:

Massive voter turnout for Trump = legitimate

Massive voter turnout for Biden = massive fraud

Is that about right?

Shhhhhh.

Clinton vs Trump = legitimate

JustRachel · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

You will never convince me that there wasn't massive fraud. Sorry.

Biden getting 5 million more votes than Obama in 08 is basically impossible. Especially with Trump gaining a bit in Hispanic/Black votes.

Well, if there was indeed fraud, let's hope they don't get caught!

Kidding, lol. Democracy is the way, regardless of who wins.

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NeedChapmans · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CC_123

I'm seeing there are still 875k votes to be counted in PA. That is a lot with only a 117k lead and mail-in votes trending Biden's way.

No. There are nowhere close to that amount of votes left.

Less than half that. Only thing around Philly left is a touch in Delaware county and a touch in Lehigh county. Philly has around 1000,000 votes left.

CC_123 · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Higher than it was for the first POC candidate that inspired and had unmatched charisma? Obama was the best first time candidate in history. His turnout was amazing.

For an old, Boring, 78 year old like Biden to get more than that is incomprehensible. He didn't campaign, he has zero charisma and he's had multiple failed runs. Yet. he is on track to break records?? Please.

Yes, higher than the first POC candidate. We are in different times now than we were in 2008 and 2012. The public, media, celebrities, athletes, etc. all pushed the importance of voting. People listened. Not everything is a conspiracy theory just because things aren't currently trending the way you want them to.

GOWIFB · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Just under 95% of the vote counted in PA; Trump still up 117,000 votes. Dems confident when all the votes are counted, they'll be ahead.

So are republicans. LOL.

Yea both sides keep saying they are confident they are going to win and it is applies to all states where it is close. But then again what are they supposed to say?

Personally I still think the 117K in PA is still going to be a tough number for Biden to overcome.

Boo · 11-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Higher than it was for the first POC candidate that inspired and had unmatched charisma? Obama was the best first time candidate in history. His turnout was amazing.

For an old, Boring, 78 year old like Biden to get more than that is incomprehensible. He didn't campaign, he has zero charisma and he's had multiple failed runs. Yet. he is on track to break records?? Please.

As said, they were votes against Trump. Hate is a wonderful motivator.

BoxBreaker72 · 11-05-2020, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GOWIFB

So let me make sure I have this correct:

Massive voter turnout for Trump = legitimate

Massive voter turnout for Biden = massive fraud

Is that about right?

Massive turnout is one thing, record turnout in specific battlegrounds only favoring one candidate every single time is suspect at best. Trump hasn't benefitted from one 4AM 200K vote dump yet. Biden has had multiple.

Just like the polls that had Biden +17 in WI on election day. This is fishy at best.

jcardstore · 11-05-2020, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

I disagree with this. I think the difference between the radical left and the moderate left is how much they feel the government should intervene. The level of intervention is completely different and I think the party will be split for a while until one concedes (which I think ultimately it will become the moderate half).

What is the main difference between moderate and radical republicans? I feel they are closer aligned than the radical left and moderate left. Like I've said before, I don't see there being 3 parties, let alone four. The left is split but I ultimately see the radical left winning that.

I actually think the opposite. I'd imagine that a great majority of Americans don't lean far left economically.

CC_123 · 11-05-2020, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Massive turnout is one thing, record turnout in specific battlegrounds only favoring one candidate every single time is suspect at best. Trump hasn't benefitted from one 4AM 200K vote dump yet. Biden has had multiple.

Just like the polls that had Biden +17 in WI on election day. This is fishy at best.

People really don't understand how the mail-in voting works, do they?

Biden encouraged mail-in and early voting. Trump opposed it. There is a reason why mail-in/early voting has favored Biden heavily.

ucLAkers · 11-05-2020, 12:24 PM

My apologies if this has been discussed but I am wondering....who is paying for all these Trump lawsuits against the states?

GeechQuest · 11-05-2020, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

You will never convince me that there wasn't massive fraud. Sorry.

Biden getting 5 million more votes than Obama in 08 is basically impossible. Especially with Trump gaining a bit in Hispanic/Black votes.

Well there are 10 million more registered voters than in 2008....

Seems completely possible and feasible. We have a 59% turnout of registered voters this year so far, as opposed to 57% in 2008.

Impossible.

discostu · 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Massive turnout is one thing, record turnout in specific battlegrounds only favoring one candidate every single time is suspect at best. Trump hasn't benefitted from one 4AM 200K vote dump yet. Biden has had multiple.

Just like the polls that had Biden +17 in WI on election day. This is fishy at best.

You don't understand how vote counting works.

I'd recommend understanding state rules.

This is normal. What isn't normal is how close it appears to be.

JustRachel · 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Higher than it was for the first POC candidate that inspired and had unmatched charisma? Obama was the best first time candidate in history. His turnout was amazing.

For an old, Boring, 78 year old like Biden to get more than that is incomprehensible. He didn't campaign, he has zero charisma and he's had multiple failed runs. Yet. he is on track to break records?? Please.

He is Not Trump. Trump turned out many, many Biden voters. Trump is responsible for the turnout numbers of both parties.

Well, that and Covid.

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BGT Masters · 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ucLAkers

My apologies if this has been discussed but I am wondering....who is paying for all these Trump lawsuits against the states?

I believe the campaign funds have to cover that.

NeedChapmans · 11-05-2020, 12:25 PM

Columbus, Macomb, Augusta all in for Georgia. Trump still ahead 14,100 votes.

NeedChapmans · 11-05-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ucLAkers

My apologies if this has been discussed but I am wondering....who is paying for all these Trump lawsuits against the states?

RNC and Campaign. Tax payers don't foot the bill on these.

GeechQuest · 11-05-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

No. There are nowhere close to that amount of votes left.

Less than half that. Only thing around Philly left is a touch in Delaware county and a touch in Lehigh county. Philly has around 1000,000 votes left.

One-thousand thousand. It's ovah!

CC_123 · 11-05-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

No. There are nowhere close to that amount of votes left.

Less than half that. Only thing around Philly left is a touch in Delaware county and a touch in Lehigh county. Philly has around 1000,000 votes left.

We really don't know exactly how many votes are left because we don't know the exact percentage of people who voted. I have seen numbers all over the place on how many are left, including 700k and my previously mentioned 875k.

NeedChapmans · 11-05-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

One-thousand thousand. It's ovah!

Dammit.

100,000.

yanksfan1 · 11-05-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Massive turnout is one thing, record turnout in specific battlegrounds only favoring one candidate every single time is suspect at best. Trump hasn't benefitted from one 4AM 200K vote dump yet. Biden has had multiple.

Just like the polls that had Biden +17 in WI on election day. This is fishy at best.

Are you talking about PA? Probably because Dems returned over 1M more mail ballots than GOPers. Why would any dump of mail ballots favor Trump? They returned over 2x as many

JustRachel · 11-05-2020, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GOWIFB

Yea both sides keep saying they are confident they are going to win and it is applies to all states where it is close. But then again what are they supposed to say?

Personally I still think the 117K in PA is still going to be a tough number for Biden to overcome.

They are supposed to say they are optimistic but patiently awaiting the tally.

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GeechQuest · 11-05-2020, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Dammit.

100,000.

I'm not watching anything, but has Fox called it for Biden yet? They've got Arizona called and NV wraps this thing up.

View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania	34	41.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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NeedChapmans Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31,800 ProspectCincy NeedChapmans	Columbus, Macomb, Augusta all in for Georgia. Trump still ahead 14,100 votes. __________________ It is my legal right to freely profit from the notoriety of people who are actively suffering and possibly even dying and for a few hundred dollars I will gladly seek to maximize those profits.

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ucLAkers Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: CaliZona Posts: 8,599 mintrobmint Totally Sucks	My apologies if this has been discussed but I am wondering....who is paying for all these Trump lawsuits against the states?