New Anthony Davis NT RPA 195/199 patch swap discovery (8/15/2021)

Deadshot · 08-15-2021, 07:02 AM

I took a bunch of pictures of RPA's at the National and I'm just getting around to looking through them.

As noted on my tracker, card 195/199 was pulled and posted on YouTube on 8/13/2013 at the 6:10 mark.

Here's a scan of the card from when it was for sale (pulled from Worthpoint before the site purged all card data).

Here's a picture I took at the National this year. Same serial number and auto is the exact same. This one is pretty cut and dry:

Slabbed by BGS in 2016

They authenticate the card and not the patch. And these aren't obvious without keeping a database. This one has gone undetected for 5 years. The last one I uncovered had gone even longer.

That brings our new total to 7 known copies.

"Never get cheated"
"Look closely"
"Buy wisely"

chuckerrrr · 08-15-2021, 07:43 AM

Great work. I wonder if these where all done by the same person? Your thoughts.

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bmf · 08-15-2021, 07:54 AM

What a shame. Any alteration to a card makes it worthless to me. I will never knowingly add an altered card to my collection or keep an altered card in my collection. The manipulation of the card completely ruins it. Thanks for your great detective work as always!

Eighty5Hundo · 08-15-2021, 08:00 AM

Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?

jcardstore · 08-15-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Eighty5Hundo

Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?

So the seller can put SICK NASTY ULTRA MOJO EBAY 1/1 10 COLOR PATCH when he sales his card

Deadshot · 08-15-2021, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckerrrr

Great work. I wonder if these where all done by the same person? Your thoughts.

There had to have been a second spitter

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Originally Posted by bmf

What a shame. Any alteration to a card makes it worthless to me. I will never knowingly add an altered card to my collection or keep an altered card in my collection. The manipulation of the card completely ruins it. Thanks for your great detective work as always!

Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Eighty5Hundo

Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?

Greed

mjohnatgt · 08-15-2021, 09:07 AM

They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

volblorx8634 · 08-15-2021, 09:18 AM

Really unfortunate obviously. Thanks for looking out for the hobby!

GeechQuest · 08-15-2021, 09:34 AM

Kyle this is truly insane that you do this detective work and data collecting. I say this from a place of laziness.

JeffG1954 · 08-15-2021, 09:41 AM

It would be great if there was a way to trace all of these back to first siting, and then see if there was a point where they were all in same persons possession.

Truly great work....worthy of BODA nomination.

Deadshot · 08-15-2021, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

My guess is some of them are some of the better pieces from Austin Rivers or Lance Thomas cards.

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Originally Posted by volblorx8634

Really unfortunate obviously. Thanks for looking out for the hobby!

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Kyle this is truly insane that you do this detective work and data collecting. I say this from a place of laziness.

My hope is that everyone finds some niche to target and we can become a way more informed collecting community in the long run. You do a great job with inserts.

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Originally Posted by JeffG1954

It would be great if there was a way to trace all of these back to first siting, and then see if there was a point where they were all in same persons possession.

Truly great work....worthy of BODA nomination.

Probably possible to trace this one, but I'll leave that work to someone else.

auburn35 · 08-15-2021, 11:08 AM

Excellent work, tracking these fake patches.

The very next BGS number is also an Anthony Davis NT RPA. Might need to research the history on that one, as well.

Deadshot · 08-15-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by auburn35

Excellent work, tracking these fake patches.

The very next BGS number is also an Anthony Davis NT RPA. Might need to research the history on that one, as well.

There were 5 or 6 of them in the same case at the National, so I figure it's one of those.

BartvH · 08-16-2021, 12:09 PM

Great work Kyle!

Mattsurewood · 08-16-2021, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

I laughed out loud in my office--fantastic!

It's a shame people do this, gotta be careful. I bought an Alexander Ovechkin The Cup numbered 9/99 that had a bad patch--I was fortunate enough to sell it to an Ovechkin Supercollector who knew it was fake, and still wanted the card, as it is his best RC...

08-15-2021, 07:02 AM	#1
Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	New Anthony Davis NT RPA 195/199 patch swap discovery (8/15/2021) I took a bunch of pictures of RPA's at the National and I'm just getting around to looking through them. As noted on my tracker, card 195/199 was pulled and posted on YouTube on 8/13/2013 at the 6:10 mark. Here's a scan of the card from when it was for sale (pulled from Worthpoint before the site purged all card data). Here's a picture I took at the National this year. Same serial number and auto is the exact same. This one is pretty cut and dry: Slabbed by BGS in 2016 They authenticate the card and not the patch. And these aren't obvious without keeping a database. This one has gone undetected for 5 years. The last one I uncovered had gone even longer. That brings our new total to 7 known copies. "Never get cheated" "Look closely" "Buy wisely" __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

08-15-2021, 08:00 AM	#4
Eighty5Hundo Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Greater Illadelph Area Posts: 220 lcnsportscardsandcollectibles	Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card? Last edited by Eighty5Hundo; 08-15-2021 at 08:01 AM. Reason: Bad sentence structure

08-15-2021, 09:18 AM	#8
volblorx8634 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: OC Posts: 4,130 kd35durant	Really unfortunate obviously. Thanks for looking out for the hobby! __________________ PC: Sacramento Kings and Cleveland Indians Looking for these cards: 1. 2018-19 National Treasure Tim Duncan Game Gear /10 (non-trim) 2. 2016 Kawhi Leonard Hoops Base Parallels (and Bird's Eye View Gold /10)

08-15-2021, 11:08 AM	#12
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,348	Excellent work, tracking these fake patches. The very next BGS number is also an Anthony Davis NT RPA. Might need to research the history on that one, as well. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

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BartvH Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: The Netherlands (Have US mailbox) Posts: 554 BartvH84 BartvH	Great work Kyle! __________________ PC: Damian Lillard - IG: @Lillardcards

08-15-2021, 07:43 AM	#2
chuckerrrr Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Georgetown TX Posts: 3,445 charger21	Great work. I wonder if these where all done by the same person? Your thoughts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-15-2021, 07:54 AM	#3
bmf Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,193	What a shame. Any alteration to a card makes it worthless to me. I will never knowingly add an altered card to my collection or keep an altered card in my collection. The manipulation of the card completely ruins it. Thanks for your great detective work as always!

08-15-2021, 09:07 AM	#7
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,621 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

08-15-2021, 09:34 AM	#9
GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	Kyle this is truly insane that you do this detective work and data collecting. I say this from a place of laziness.

08-15-2021, 09:41 AM	#10
JeffG1954 Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 3,100	It would be great if there was a way to trace all of these back to first siting, and then see if there was a point where they were all in same persons possession. Truly great work....worthy of BODA nomination.