Logan Paul’s $3.5 Million ‘Base Set’ Case May Be Fake - Page 14

jw8 · 01-13-2022, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BRob1

shyne said meelypops has agreed to put his proceeds in escrow for the time being. crickets from kahuna.

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Weird for a young boy worth $150million

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KhalDrogo · 01-13-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

So pokejew was not involved in buying and reselling or any transactions just the BBCE angle?

Pokejew claimed to have done research to verify the case before it went to BBCE. He also claims to have lost all that research. The guy didn’t know what he was doing.

jw8 · 01-13-2022, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Pokejew claimed to have done research to verify the case before it went to BBCE. He also claims to have lost all that research. The guy didn’t know what he was doing.

He wanted to be an accessory to celebrity

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TimBuckTwo · 01-13-2022, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Pokejew claimed to have done research to verify the case before it went to BBCE. He also claims to have lost all that research. The guy didn’t know what he was doing.

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Originally Posted by jw8

He wanted to be an accessory to celebrity

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So if I follow the timeline it looks like this:

Canadian scammer possibly pokebutler sells case to mellypops and cardkahuna which pokejew helps get authenticated by BBCE then melly and cardk sell to shyne/matt who sells to LP.

GI JOE for the win !

elny43 · 01-13-2022, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

So if I follow the timeline it looks like this:

Canadian scammer possibly pokebutler sells case to mellypops and cardkahuna which pokejew helps get authenticated by BBCE then melly and cardk sell to shyne/matt who sells to LP.

Yep, this is the right timeline. I had to type out this same flow chart to wrap my head around who sold to who lol

dizzydolse · 01-13-2022, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Pokejew claimed to have done research to verify the case before it went to BBCE. He also claims to have lost all that research. The guy didn’t know what he was doing.

Oh I didn't know that

jw8 · 01-13-2022, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

So if I follow the timeline it looks like this:

Canadian scammer possibly pokebutler sells case to mellypops and cardkahuna which pokejew helps get authenticated by BBCE then melly and cardk sell to shyne/matt who sells to LP.

GI JOE for the win !

I think it's more like:
1.Canadian scammer (maybe pokebutler) posts fake case on ebay
2. Pokejew tells kahuna about the case, claims it's authenticity via his research
3. Kahuna buys case with meelypops from scammer
4. Kahuna And meely authenticate cass with BBCE
5. Kahuna and meely sell case to shyne
6. Shyne sells case to LP

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Dbacksbaseball · 01-13-2022, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Exactly what I said in the other thread just now. It’s the perfect scam. Sell a product that you can’t verify is real without devaluing the product.

Best post in the thread in my opinion. It’s the perfect crime. The ultimate con.

I will say this when the owner of BBCE looks at everyone after it’s fake and says ‘We all got duped—Agree?’ the scumbag sensors went off.

TimBuckTwo · 01-13-2022, 08:08 PM

So what do 6 ...errrr..... 5 used first edition boxes sell for these days?

Ianhatcher · 01-13-2022, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jw8

I think it's more like:
1.Canadian scammer (maybe pokebutler) posts fake case on ebay
2. Pokejew tells kahuna about the case, claims it's authenticity via his research
3. Kahuna buys case with meelypops from scammer
4. Kahuna And meely authenticate cass with BBCE
5. Kahuna and meely sell case to shyne
6. Shyne sells case to LP

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Yes, that is correct.

Pokejew is the guy at around 5:30 in Logan's video that is talking about how it's the biggest case of fraud in the history of Pokemon which is ironic because he was the one who found said case, said it was real and got his buddies to purchase it.

pip · 01-13-2022, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Pokejew claimed to have done research to verify the case before it went to BBCE. He also claims to have lost all that research. The guy didn’t know what he was doing.

I called him an ignorant oaf first.

pip · 01-13-2022, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

So what do 6 ...errrr..... 5 used first edition boxes sell for these days?

$350k to about $425k each. With the rare G.I. Joe factory error inserts? $10 each.

pip · 01-13-2022, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Yes, that is correct.

Pokejew is the guy at around 5:30 in Logan's video that is talking about how it's the biggest case of fraud in the history of Pokemon which is ironic because he was the one who found said case, said it was real and got his buddies to purchase it.

I wonder what his finder's fee was and if he will be returning it.

byronscott4ever · 01-13-2022, 08:31 PM

Can we get a PSA graded Logan Paul Pokémon Gi Joe card?

mjohnatgt · 01-13-2022, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Can we get a PSA graded Logan Paul Pokémon Gi Joe card?

I thought maybe Topps would commemorate it with a card in an updated Ginter subset like:

2009 Topps Allen & Ginter's - World's Biggest Hoaxes, Hoodwinks and Bamboozles Minis #HHB1 - Charles Ponzi
Courtesy of COMC.com

jerryw · 01-13-2022, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Can we get a PSA graded Logan Paul Pokémon Gi Joe card?

JW on YouTube asked the same question first

TimBuckTwo · 01-13-2022, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

I thought maybe Topps would commemorate it with a card in an updated Ginter subset like:

2009 Topps Allen & Ginter's - World's Biggest Hoaxes, Hoodwinks and Bamboozles Minis #HHB1 - Charles Ponzi
Courtesy of COMC.com

Yes, I lobby for one of Rattle labeled PI (Pokemon Investigator).

Cardfanusa · 01-13-2022, 08:50 PM

There were accusations about BBCE authenticating and PSA grading bad cello packs several years ago.

There was a guy named Jose Vazquez who claimed he made packs to see if they would get by PSA and they did.

Here are an old Net54 thread that has some other threads linked in it.

Take it how you wish:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172751

byronscott4ever · 01-13-2022, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

I thought maybe Topps would commemorate it with a card in an updated Ginter subset like:

2009 Topps Allen & Ginter's - World's Biggest Hoaxes, Hoodwinks and Bamboozles Minis #HHB1 - Charles Ponzi
Courtesy of COMC.com

Brilliant

byronscott4ever · 01-13-2022, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryw

JW on YouTube asked the same question first

I also wondered if he’d wear the case on a chain to his next fight.

elny43 · 01-13-2022, 09:03 PM

Pokebeach has a good final follow up article, rehashing what Rattle discovered including info on the original Canadian culprit.

https://www.pokebeach.com/2022/01/lo...down-the-chain

CanadianKid · 01-13-2022, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Yes, that is correct.

Pokejew is the guy at around 5:30 in Logan's video that is talking about how it's the biggest case of fraud in the history of Pokemon which is ironic because he was the one who found said case, said it was real and got his buddies to purchase it.

I had to laugh at that too, either very unaware of how this makes him look or a real piece of work.

I was hoping someone in that room looked at him and was "bro, really?"

pip · 01-13-2022, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardfanusa

There were accusations about BBCE authenticating and PSA grading bad cello packs several years ago.

There was a guy named Jose Vazquez who claimed he made packs to see if they would get by PSA and they did.

Here are an old Net54 thread that has some other threads linked in it.

Take it how you wish:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172751

Jose Vazquez was a scammer (he made and sold bad packs/cellos) but the information he gives in that thread is essentially correct. The bottom line is that BBCE authenticated hundreds/thousands of bogus cellos with stars showing on top/bottom. This doesn't surprise me in the least. I don't know how anyone can watch the video posted today and think that Steve Hart's flawed methodology is confined to Pokémon products. It's not.

SupermanBrandon · 01-13-2022, 09:55 PM

Pokejew was just happy to be there. He thought he was a lot cooler than he is. I think he goes thru LPs dirty underwear hamper, if you know what I mean.

messier2 · 01-13-2022, 10:12 PM

For the longest time I thought Shyne was this high end Latino guy named Antonio or something like that! He’s a white dude named Matt?! Wtf?!

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TimBuckTwo Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,165	So what do 6 ...errrr..... 5 used first edition boxes sell for these days?

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byronscott4ever Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11,420	Can we get a PSA graded Logan Paul Pokémon Gi Joe card?

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Cardfanusa Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 60	There were accusations about BBCE authenticating and PSA grading bad cello packs several years ago. There was a guy named Jose Vazquez who claimed he made packs to see if they would get by PSA and they did. Here are an old Net54 thread that has some other threads linked in it. Take it how you wish: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=172751

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elny43 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Big Apple Posts: 1,525	Pokebeach has a good final follow up article, rehashing what Rattle discovered including info on the original Canadian culprit. https://www.pokebeach.com/2022/01/lo...down-the-chain

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Pokejew was just happy to be there. He thought he was a lot cooler than he is. I think he goes thru LPs dirty underwear hamper, if you know what I mean.

01-13-2022, 10:12 PM	#350
messier2 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15,298	For the longest time I thought Shyne was this high end Latino guy named Antonio or something like that! He’s a white dude named Matt?! Wtf?!