Why the importance on staying with the same team?

Wolverine · 03-30-2022, 03:57 PM

Is it an OCD thing with fans or does it really make the player that much more of a legend if he stays with the same team his entire career?

Dodgerfan74 · 03-30-2022, 03:59 PM

It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw

Wolverine · 03-30-2022, 04:03 PM

More of a legend with the fans of the team they stay with though? Ruth, Griffey, Mays, Ichiro & Aaron come to mind. Their careers don't seem diminished in the slightest by being with multiple teams.

awz50 · 03-30-2022, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw

Current is yadi and waino

speedyjg13 · 03-31-2022, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw

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Originally Posted by awz50

Current is yadi and waino

And Trout

oddstuff · 04-01-2022, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerfan74

It does. Think Tony Gwynn and Cal Ripken.
Current Clayton Kershaw

Really hoping Kershaw finishes his career in LA. Broke my heart as a teenager when Garvey signed with the Padres.

BigL7370 · 03-30-2022, 04:44 PM

It's a thing the older generation 'back in my day' passes onto the youth - a good company man who sticks in one spot for the entirety of his pro career.

I think in most cases it's up to the team whether that loyalty will be extended to a player - if they really wanted to keep a guy, they would.

rms13 · 03-30-2022, 05:54 PM

Definitely a part of a bygone era. There is no loyalty on either side anymore so the odds of having players stay on a team for 20 years now are slim to none. Salary cap/luxury taxes also make it more impossible. As already pointed out there are plenty of legends that played for multiple teams. I think it helps legacy for guys that are not quite superstars but are local cult heroes. I’m a Red Sox fan and I think Pedroia playing his entire career in Boston helps his legacy among Red Sox fans. But Mookie will always be an all time Red Sox great and fan favorite even though he only played there a relatively short time because of how great he was and all he accomplished with the team.

doowopbruce · 03-30-2022, 05:59 PM

Babe Ruth played for 4 different teams. If it's good for the Babe it's okay with me.

rats60 · 03-31-2022, 12:58 AM

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Babe Ruth played for 4 different teams. If it's good for the Babe it's okay with me.

What was the 4th team?

Wolverine · 03-31-2022, 08:18 AM

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What was the 4th team?

I assumed he meant Dodgers but iirc he was only a base coach for a short time.

doowopbruce · 03-31-2022, 12:28 PM

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What was the 4th team?

Boston Braves in the NL.

chilly55 · 03-31-2022, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doowopbruce

Boston Braves in the NL.

That was his third team.
1914-1919 - Boston A.L.
1920-1934 - New York A.L.
1935 - Boston N.L.

doowopbruce · 03-31-2022, 02:11 PM

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That was his third team.
1914-1919 - Boston A.L.
1920-1934 - New York A.L.
1935 - Boston N.L.

He initially played in the minors for the Baltimore Orioles.

mfw13 · 03-30-2022, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine

Is it an OCD thing with fans or does it really make the player that much more of a legend if he stays with the same team his entire career?

I don't think it's staying with one team their whole career as much as it is staying with the team where they were most successful and/or staying with a team long enough to build up a strong base of support.

For example, even though they split time just about evenly between both teams,

Griffey Jr. (Mariners) > Griffey Jr. (Reds)
Pujols (Cardinals) > Pujols (Angels)
Will Clark (Giants) > Will Clark (Rangers/Orioles)
Wade Boggs (Red Sox) > Wade Boggs (Yankees/Rays)

People couldn't care less about non-Mariners Ichiro stuff....

It's all about the team where you were most successful/most loved....

pewe · 03-30-2022, 07:13 PM

Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.

dizzydolse · 03-30-2022, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.

You love Jeter

pewe · 03-30-2022, 07:59 PM

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You love Jeter

Millions of fans agree

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rms13 · 03-30-2022, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.

Ortiz didn’t play his entire career in Boston.

pewe · 03-30-2022, 07:48 PM

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Ortiz didn’t play his entire career in Boston.

Completing a long successful career in a city, and going out on a high note is the key… not whether the player ever was on another team for a short period of time early in their career.

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ThoseBackPages · 03-30-2022, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players:
-- Jeter
-- Ortiz
-- Ripken Jr.
-- etc.

Ortiz was with Minnesota

pewe · 03-30-2022, 07:55 PM

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Ortiz was with Minnesota

He completed a long successful career in Minnesota???

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ThoseBackPages · 03-30-2022, 07:56 PM

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He completed a long successful career in Minnesota???

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started there, then switched teams.

pewe · 03-30-2022, 08:45 PM

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started there, then switched teams.

So… my statement still stands on good footing? Completing a long successful career in a city can endear a player to a fan base?

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Slette · 03-31-2022, 09:41 AM

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He completed a long successful career in Minnesota???

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"I wish." - Twins fans

03-30-2022, 03:57 PM	#1
Wolverine Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 220	Why the importance on staying with the same team? Is it an OCD thing with fans or does it really make the player that much more of a legend if he stays with the same team his entire career?

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03-30-2022, 04:03 PM	#3
Wolverine Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 220	More of a legend with the fans of the team they stay with though? Ruth, Griffey, Mays, Ichiro & Aaron come to mind. Their careers don't seem diminished in the slightest by being with multiple teams.

03-30-2022, 04:44 PM	#7
BigL7370 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,040	It's a thing the older generation 'back in my day' passes onto the youth - a good company man who sticks in one spot for the entirety of his pro career. I think in most cases it's up to the team whether that loyalty will be extended to a player - if they really wanted to keep a guy, they would.

03-30-2022, 05:54 PM	#8
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Definitely a part of a bygone era. There is no loyalty on either side anymore so the odds of having players stay on a team for 20 years now are slim to none. Salary cap/luxury taxes also make it more impossible. As already pointed out there are plenty of legends that played for multiple teams. I think it helps legacy for guys that are not quite superstars but are local cult heroes. I’m a Red Sox fan and I think Pedroia playing his entire career in Boston helps his legacy among Red Sox fans. But Mookie will always be an all time Red Sox great and fan favorite even though he only played there a relatively short time because of how great he was and all he accomplished with the team.

03-30-2022, 05:59 PM	#9
doowopbruce Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,024 doowopbruce	Babe Ruth played for 4 different teams. If it's good for the Babe it's okay with me.

03-30-2022, 07:13 PM	#16
pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,641	Completing a successful career with a team certainly seems to help in the lore and long term popularity of some players: -- Jeter -- Ortiz -- Ripken Jr. -- etc.