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Old 12-19-2022, 03:45 PM   #626
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I’m having the same experience with hobby so far. Here’s Bobby. Check out that rough emboss smh.

Wow, I've never seen the emboss offset like that. It's like 1 or 2mm off.

Topps finding new ways to f**k up.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:49 PM   #627
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Ah, that takes me back to 2019 Prizm basketball. I didn't know that was a thing they could mess up til I had a card in hand and noticed it.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:52 PM   #628
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Four hobby boxes in so far and it is brutal. One hit (auto/color) per box it seems - nothing of note.

Same format for packs. No Julio purple yet. One Bobbie Witt RD purple
So no difference from Mega??? Just 24 of the same packs?? No better odds??? Now I'm questioning getting those other 4 hobbys. Hmmmmmm
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:54 PM   #629
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So no difference from Mega??? Just 24 of the same packs?? No better odds??? Now I'm questioning getting those other 4 hobbys. Hmmmmmm
Identical odds but I am finding one hit per box. Box #5 had an Alek Thomas auto and that is the best card so far.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:55 PM   #630
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Four hobby boxes in so far and it is brutal. One hit (auto/color) per box it seems - nothing of note.

Same format for packs. No Julio purple yet. One Bobbie Witt RD purple
That this is just a re-packaged, marked up copy of retail is infuriating. Same odds, same #@#@#@#@ quality issues, no different insert or parallels. What garbage from Topps.

The releases that are capping 2022 are the straw that breaks the camel's back for modern hobby wax. Pairing this with a recession and cash-flow tightening, 2023 releases are going to rot and rightfully so.

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Old 12-19-2022, 03:57 PM   #631
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Glad I resisted the urge to load up.
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:12 PM   #632
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Extremely disappointed in this year's Chrome Update - consistently one of my favorite releases of the year. One Mega Box in, happy with my pulls (two Penas and a Julio debut) but extremely disappointed in the QC - tons of off-center cards, lots of embossing issues.
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:12 PM   #633
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I’m having the same experience with hobby so far. Here’s Bobby. Check out that rough emboss smh.
Do a lot of your ASG cards have a soot on them? I'd say about half of the ASG cards have it.

Makes me feel like I am in Fiddler on the Roof.
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:27 PM   #634
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:33 PM   #635
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Confirmed that update hobby and mega packs are the same. Been saying this……
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:47 PM   #636
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Wow, I've never seen the emboss offset like that. It's like 1 or 2mm off.

Topps finding new ways to f**k up.
I had a few cards from Donruss Optic that were not ever close to embossed around the player. I ended up throwing them away they were that bad. Never seen Topps mess up with that like this.
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:13 PM   #637
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Confirmed that update hobby and mega packs are the same. Been saying this……
I’m anxious to see a break of a hobby box before Wednesday.
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:20 PM   #638
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I’m anxious to see a break of a hobby box before Wednesday.
Watch a break of 2.5 megas and you'll get an extra pack.
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:25 PM   #639
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Hobby is the same as retail??? Holy crap what an F U to their customers. Sorry to all who bought
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:35 PM   #640
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So a Bowman Draft Super Jumbo the better buy here??
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:36 PM   #641
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Watch a break of 2.5 megas and you'll get an extra pack.
I could and have but I want to see a hobby break.
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:42 PM   #642
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I could and have but I want to see a hobby break.
It’s the exact same product in different box
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:14 PM   #643
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Wow! Fanatics is even worse than I thought. Not sure how that’s possible since I think they are pure #@#@#@#@ already.
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I’m probably forgetting something, but I can’t think of another product marketed as “hobby” that was basically a 24 Ct retail box. They usually call them retail boxes in the description. From the looks of the packs I’ve seen they also don’t have the hobby insignia on the outside of the pack. If I preordered from one of the big three, I’d honestly ask for a refund, this is a joke. Just a thought for those who did and are unhappy
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:23 PM   #645
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I’m probably forgetting something, but I can’t think of another product marketed as “hobby” that was basically a 24 Ct retail box. They usually call them retail boxes in the description. From the looks of the packs I’ve seen they also don’t have the hobby insignia on the outside of the pack. If I preordered from one of the big three, I’d honestly ask for a refund, this is a joke. Just a thought for those who did and are unhappy
That was my thought too. Is there another example of a Topps release with no differentiation between hobby and retail? Opening Day? I preordered a sizeable chunk of hobby from Blowout on this one and I'd happily return but there is no way they will take it back at cost.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:25 PM   #646
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I’m probably forgetting something, but I can’t think of another product marketed as “hobby” that was basically a 24 Ct retail box. They usually call them retail boxes in the description. From the looks of the packs I’ve seen they also don’t have the hobby insignia on the outside of the pack. If I preordered from one of the big three, I’d honestly ask for a refund, this is a joke. Just a thought for those who did and are unhappy
I preordered a case from BO.

I knew the risk and took it. It’s not BO’s fault but my own.

As much as I’d like to return it, I have to take full responsibility for my purchasing decision.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:28 PM   #647
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At this point, I think Fanatics is intentionally #@#@#@#@ing the big three and the breakers. How many pallets of this garbage did they order and are going to be stuck with? This is what they get for gouging everyone the last few years. This could be Rubin’s master plan to crush these guys and force them into a liquidity crisis. Buy wax high from Fanatics and sell low because the product is garbage. Force as many of these guys out as possible. At the least, minimize their power.

If that’s what Fanatics is doing, it’s brilliant. Taking a gamble that the consumer will forgive them in the end.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:37 PM   #648
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Well - that was brutal. Don't really have anything to say at this point. Some of the ASG cards are super dirty. Kind of gross because I have no idea what it actually is on the cards.

12 boxes - 13 "hits". The box with the green had the extra hit. It would take a major card to feel anywhere decent about the case.

The only reason I show the two purple are because those are the two best quality wise I got out of the case and if I had to guess they would PSA 9.

From a simple math perspective you would be much much better off buying straight Target Megas at $5/pack. I paid the $170 from BO which equates to a little over $7 a pack - lets say $2 extra per pack for "hobby". At 288 packs per case this is a premium of ~$575 for the only benefit of it seems there is a hit per hobby box.

I'd much rather save the $575 and take my odds with Target Megas. I ripped 6 target megas and got a refractor and an auto.

If they are priced to match the Target Megas I would think $120 on Topps.com. Anything more than that are you are paying to, what I believe, guarantee some type of hit per box.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:39 PM   #649
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At this point, I think Fanatics is intentionally #@#@#@#@ing the big three and the breakers. How many pallets of this garbage did they order and are going to be stuck with? This is what they get for gouging everyone the last few years. This could be Rubin’s master plan to crush these guys and force them into a liquidity crisis. Buy wax high from Fanatics and sell low because the product is garbage. Force as many of these guys out as possible. At the least, minimize their power.

If that’s what Fanatics is doing, it’s brilliant. Taking a gamble that the consumer will forgive them in the end.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:40 PM   #650
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Topps has really junked the TC line. Only plus were the logofractors and many of those had quality issues as well. Does not bode well for Sonic.
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