2023 PSA New Pricing and Declared Values

[rentz]

Originally Posted by KPOD

I would love that. I think even with the special they are not getting enough TCG cards at $14 to keep them busy. I just had an order ship today after physically being at PSA for only 25 days.

yeah i've got a stack of non sports and tcg i was going to ship but i'm holding for a better special.

[itsbaytime]

These deals are horrible. On to June!!!

[KPOD]

Originally Posted by itsbaytime

These deals are horrible. On to June!!!

Yep! Literally the only "cheap" deal is Star Wars card exclusive.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by itsbaytime

These deals are horrible. On to June!!!

awful specials unless you need to grade a bunch of star wars

[imbluestreak23]

I'll take the $15.99 one. Was gonna send in about 250ish cards yesterday at $16.99 but slammed all day, so reckon submitting this week will save me $250 noice

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I'll take the $15.99 one. Was gonna send in about 250ish cards yesterday at $16.99 but slammed all day, so reckon submitting this week will save me $250 noice

Nice. Looking forward to your videos


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[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by KPOD

Yep! Literally the only "cheap" deal is Star Wars card exclusive.

It’s the same deal as last month, just $200 DV instead of $150.


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[Raleigh504]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I'll take the $15.99 one. Was gonna send in about 250ish cards yesterday at $16.99 but slammed all day, so reckon submitting this week will save me $250 noice

I just sent in one at the end of the month for the special. I think this one also goes back further now to 1980 compared to 2000. I have some "older" cards I probably will submit later this month. Always look to get a few more during the month to add to the sub

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by itsbaytime

These deals are horrible. On to June!!!

Not great, but at least I can combine my 80s and 90s stuff with the shiny stuff this month for the lower price. I don't have a ton of it but can finally justify sending most of it.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by Raleigh504

I just sent in one at the end of the month for the special. I think this one also goes back further now to 1980 compared to 2000. I have some "older" cards I probably will submit later this month. Always look to get a few more during the month to add to the sub

deal breaker for me is i had a few i needed at the $500 value, guess i'll keep the order i made yesterday.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Nice. Looking forward to your videos


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[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I'll take the $15.99 one. Was gonna send in about 250ish cards yesterday at $16.99 but slammed all day, so reckon submitting this week will save me $250 noice

Yeah - I entered 150 cards yesterday for the April special but I'll just scrap that and go with this one.

[jtclockwork]

Originally Posted by rentz

awful specials unless you need to grade a bunch of star wars

Yep. I sent off a few of my Star Wars cards in last special and I don't have enough from 1977-1989 in high enough grade to make sense to submit a full order, so I'm going to pass on this month.

I have five packs I want to do at some point. I might do that one. Not sure. None of the packs are in the PSA database and I don't want them just mailed back to me because they can't verify them or whatever.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by jtclockwork

Yep. I sent off a few of my Star Wars cards in last special and I don't have enough from 1977-1989 in high enough grade to make sense to submit a full order, so I'm going to pass on this month.

I have five packs I want to do at some point. I might do that one. Not sure. None of the packs are in the PSA database and I don't want them just mailed back to me because they can't verify them or whatever.

cases like that i find myself adding things i shouldnt just to hit the required amount.
i had some non sports stuff to send last month but didnt hit 20

[jtclockwork]

Originally Posted by rentz

cases like that i find myself adding things i shouldnt just to hit the required amount.
i had some non sports stuff to send last month but didnt hit 20

I had three orders of 24-25 cards each last month in the non-sports special plus three specials pending from the previous month, so happy to save the money this month. I had 25 more cards I wanted to send in the non sports one, but I forced myself to cut a bunch. I would have cut the Star Wars ones instead had I known. (I should have. They did Star Wars last May too). Oh well.

[salsdali]

Originally Posted by rentz

cases like that i find myself adding things i shouldnt just to hit the required amount.
i had some non sports stuff to send last month but didnt hit 20

IMO, this is where PSA is making their money, it's essentialy their business plan.

IOW, the vast majority of submitters are sending in stuff that shouldn't even be graded.

[towerymt]

I have no fewer than 6 cards in my grading pile that have been rejected, N9 NO GRADE DO NOT HOLDER (meaning no grading fee charged). Makes it easy to fill a 10-card min when you start out 60% of the way

[inaka]

Originally Posted by towerymt

I have no fewer than 6 cards in my grading pile that have been rejected, N9 NO GRADE DO NOT HOLDER (meaning no grading fee charged). Makes it easy to fill a 10-card min when you start out 60% of the way

I just wanted to say that I love this.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by salsdali

IMO, this is where PSA is making their money, it's essentialy their business plan.

IOW, the vast majority of submitters are sending in stuff that shouldn't even be graded.

yeah the last month i only did the 10card modern special because i didnt want to add filler just to hit 20 for non sport.

trying to get more selective and if i dont have enough i'll wait

[salsdali]

am I wrong or does every submission sell for cost (cost of submission) except for 10's which fetch a premium?

IOW, no one is making any profit off 9's or less, right?

If so, isn't PSA the real winner here?

IOW, a 10 card submission = Nine 9's and One ten so after costs of selling nine 9's your broke even with one 10 left that may, or may not fetch a premium in the future.

seems like PSA is the winner here

are the people really calculating the cost of acquiring all those nines to get to that ten to make a profit?

IOW, I think the "error" rate at which PSA miscalculates cards grade is more than your error rate in cost of acquisition and this is why PSA continues to profit day to day without dying while the rest of us die. nice business model

[Woodsy074]

Originally Posted by salsdali

am I wrong or does every submission sell for cost (cost of submission) except for 10's which fetch a premium?

IOW, no one is making any profit off 9's or less, right?

If so, isn't PSA the real winner here?

IOW, a 10 card submission = Nine 9's and One ten so after costs of selling nine 9's your broke even with one 10 left that may, or may not fetch a premium in the future.

seems like PSA is the winner here

are the people really calculating the cost of acquiring all those nines to get to that ten to make a profit?

IOW, I think the "error" rate at which PSA miscalculates cards grade is more than your error rate in cost of acquisition and this is why PSA continues to profit day to day without dying while the rest of us die. nice business model

This was the grading world pre-pandemic. It wasn’t until 2020 that a 9 would be profitable. However, I do agree it seems that the predictability of grades is down which at these prices makes it more of a gamble.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by salsdali

am I wrong or does every submission sell for cost (cost of submission) except for 10's which fetch a premium?

IOW, no one is making any profit off 9's or less, right?

If so, isn't PSA the real winner here?

IOW, a 10 card submission = Nine 9's and One ten so after costs of selling nine 9's your broke even with one 10 left that may, or may not fetch a premium in the future.

seems like PSA is the winner here

are the people really calculating the cost of acquiring all those nines to get to that ten to make a profit?

IOW, I think the "error" rate at which PSA miscalculates cards grade is more than your error rate in cost of acquisition and this is why PSA continues to profit day to day without dying while the rest of us die. nice business model

It certainly depends on the card and the price you get it at.

[anusinha]

yes, PSA is the big winner here. eventually joe idiot will tire of trying to take a $2 base card and turn it into a $25 psa 10.

[MavsRChamps]

Originally Posted by anusinha

yes, PSA is the big winner here. eventually joe idiot will tire of trying to take a $2 base card and turn it into a $25 psa 10.

I feel you. I bought a Steph curry parallel for $2 … got it graded for $15 … got a 10, pop less than 100 too. Just sold for $35 on eBay - $28 after fees from co-signer … so got like $10 profit from all that work and I even got a 10. (Other curry I sent similar got 9). These type of cards just aren’t worth grading anymore. Very few cards are worth grading nowadays. Even some cards that sell in the $20-$50 range - I see on eBay sometime 9’s sell the same as raw.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by MavsRChamps

I feel you. I bought a Steph curry parallel for $2 … got it graded for $15 … got a 10, pop less than 100 too. Just sold for $35 on eBay - $28 after fees from co-signer … so got like $10 profit from all that work and I even got a 10. (Other curry I sent similar got 9). These type of cards just aren’t worth grading anymore. Very few cards are worth grading nowadays. Even some cards that sell in the $20-$50 range - I see on eBay sometime 9’s sell the same as raw.

The premiums for ultra modern PSA 10s vs raw are shrinking pretty fast which is the big problem. It used to be a $20 raw would be a $150 PSA 10, now that $20 raw is a $60 PSA 10, and the risk/reward ratio is pretty skewed, as you get killed on the 9s. TCG at the very least seems more reliable with the grading and lower overall fees.