Pete Rose Dead at 83

[Fenway55]

... and the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep ...

[njsportscardguy]

Admittedly,...as an INDIVIDUAL, sometimes it's harder to...."be the bigger person". But collectively-speaking, seeing how it's been absolutely/unfortunately confirmed that Pete Rose has indeed, passed, the fact that MLB.com has FAILED to even dignify his passing with nary a "blip",...speaks VOLUMES, imo!

Disgustingly, SAD!!

[redauto5]

4,192 4EVA

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[Bcr]

It just feels wrong to have gambling shoved down my throat on every broadcast and not have him in the hall of fame. Rest easy Pete.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Hobby superstar of the 70's and 80's. RIP Charlie Hustle.

[codered]

Originally Posted by marl1220

True. But he broke the one rule you never, EVER, break. That did him in.

Yeah, he talked about fight club…

Plenty of questionable characters in the hall. Wish he would have gotten in before he died but it’s baseball so as others have said he had to die before it will be a consideration. Hopefully it happens soon……the ghost of Charlie will come sliding into the hall spikes up

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by rms13

So when does he get into the HOF?

Never. Even if he had a .0001% chance before that chance is even less now given how close gambling has gotten to the game.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Examples?

Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford admitted to cheating by doctoring balls. Hank Greenberg admitted to cheating by stealing signs. Rogers Hornsby rumored to be a member of KKK, Ty Cobb documented racist, bet on baseball, went into the stands to attack fans. Cap Anson refused to play against teams with black players and was instrumental to segregation in MLB. Leo Durocher suspended in 1947 for his association with known gamblers. Kirby Puckett allegedly put a gun to his wife's head and strangled her with an extension cord amongst other off the field issues with women. Juan Marichal took a swing at a player's head with a bat during a game, Ed Delahanty attacked a group of train passengers with a straight edge razor.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Bcr

It just feels wrong to have gambling shoved down my throat on every broadcast and not have him in the hall of fame. Rest easy Pete.

It's just a little hypocritical

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by rms13

Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford admitted to cheating by doctoring balls. Hank Greenberg admitted to cheating by stealing signs. Rogers Hornsby rumored to be a member of KKK, Ty Cobb documented racist, bet on baseball, went into the stands to attack fans. Cap Anson refused to play against teams with black players and was instrumental to segregation in MLB. Leo Durocher suspended in 1947 for his association with known gamblers. Kirby Puckett allegedly put a gun to his wife's head and strangled her with an extension cord amongst other off the field issues with women. Juan Marichal took a swing at a player's head with a bat during a game, Ed Delahanty attacked a group of train passengers with a straight edge razor.

Absolutely none of these even approach what Rose did to the game. Not even close.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Absolutely none of these even approach what Rose did to the game. Not even close.

So you're fine with racism and attempted murder?

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by rms13

So you're fine with racism and attempted murder?

You honestly can't see the difference?

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by rms13

So you're fine with racism and attempted murder?

As I said, what Rose did to the game was far worse than what those people did to the game.

It’s all about integrity of the game. One has to understand the word integrity to understand what Rose did was worse.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by rms13

Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford admitted to cheating by doctoring balls. Hank Greenberg admitted to cheating by stealing signs. Rogers Hornsby rumored to be a member of KKK, Ty Cobb documented racist, bet on baseball, went into the stands to attack fans. Cap Anson refused to play against teams with black players and was instrumental to segregation in MLB. Leo Durocher suspended in 1947 for his association with known gamblers. Kirby Puckett allegedly put a gun to his wife's head and strangled her with an extension cord amongst other off the field issues with women. Juan Marichal took a swing at a player's head with a bat during a game, Ed Delahanty attacked a group of train passengers with a straight edge razor.

What if I told you that Ty Cobb wasn’t actually racist.

https://www.newsweek.com/2024/07/26/...t-1907257.html

[Giancarlo27]

I could care less about the gambling, it’s the child rape that confirms him as one of the biggest scumbags in baseball history. But he should still be in the HOF

[mwash1983]

Originally Posted by rms13

So when does he get into the HOF?

2026, look at the elgibles.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

As I said, what Rose did to the game was far worse than what those people did to the game.

It’s all about integrity of the game. One has to understand the word integrity to understand what Rose did was worse.

What exactly did he do to the game? The game is fine. If MLB folded in 1989 then you may have a point. But it didn't and you don't

[mwash1983]

Originally Posted by rms13

So you're fine with racism and attempted murder?

Just wait until Beltran is put in the hall and he was one of the ring leaders of the trashcan losers.

[Fenway55]

Every single clubhouse in Major League Baseball has the following sign:

“Any player, umpire or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.’’

Please note it doesn't say "shall be declared permanently ineligible unless he is a really really great player and is popular with a large section of the fan base"

[DioBrando]

Pours out a little Skyline chili for Pete

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Just wait until Beltran is put in the hall and he was one of the ring leaders of the trashcan losers.

thats trashcan winners to you

[byronscott4ever]

Prolific signer, Weird that he might have unfulfilled redemptions

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by rms13

What exactly did he do to the game? The game is fine. If MLB folded in 1989 then you may have a point. But it didn't and you don't

As I said, one must understand what the word integrity means and understand how to apply it to a situation.

Of course so many of these types of threads - gambling, steroids, etc. - that seem to pit people against one another always seem so fake, as if they really only exist to get people to post more or something…

[theshowandme]

Originally Posted by rms13

Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford admitted to cheating by doctoring balls. Hank Greenberg admitted to cheating by stealing signs. Rogers Hornsby rumored to be a member of KKK, Ty Cobb documented racist, bet on baseball, went into the stands to attack fans. Cap Anson refused to play against teams with black players and was instrumental to segregation in MLB. Leo Durocher suspended in 1947 for his association with known gamblers. Kirby Puckett allegedly put a gun to his wife's head and strangled her with an extension cord amongst other off the field issues with women. Juan Marichal took a swing at a player's head with a bat during a game, Ed Delahanty attacked a group of train passengers with a straight edge razor.

[Qubits]

Originally Posted by redauto5

RIP Charlie Hustle. He was a jackass in a lot of ways but a darn good ballplayer. Just like Cobb and countless other HOF players. Time to put him and Shoeless Joe in.

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Cobb wasn't actually a jackass. That book about him was just made up #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@.