**2025 Atlanta Braves Thread**

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by bravesballer

Don't bother posting your opinions in this thread, a certain someone is always here to tell you how wrong you are in the hopes of getting into an argument with you its what they live for. Personally I fully agree with you.

Imagine saying the reason a team is struggling at the start of the 2025 season is because a player (who they tried very hard to keep) signed with another team before the 2022 season.

Freddie's agent screwed that whole thing up. There's a reason why Freddie fired him.

[unreal13]

Our first win coming from a Bryce Elder start makes too much sense at this point with as wacky as the season has started. In reality I expect he gets absolutely shelled and we head home 0-7.

[tmoore_25]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Starting pitching hasn't been an issue? It's literally been the biggest issue at the end of the last two seasons. And reread my statement, starting pitching isn't the reason they are 0-6.

I love Freeman as much as the next person, but it's been three damn years buddy. GTFOH with that "the chemistry is off" BS.

You said buddy like we were friends or something. I'm not here claiming to be an uber analyst or something. Only offering my opinion. Take it for what it is worth. I'm still a diehard Braves fan regardless of how I feel about them at the moment.

Only due to injury, were there any starting pitching issues. If the pen was reliable, the starters could have gone with fewer innings and been healthier at the end of the year. And you're right, starting pitching isn't the reason they are sucking right now. They only have like one player batting over .200. As the season progresses though, starting pitching is going to be an issue. Schwellenbach is fire right now because the other teams haven't found his holes yet, but as they see him some more, he won't be as good as he was his first night.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by tmoore_25

You said buddy like we were friends or something. I'm not here claiming to be an uber analyst or something. Only offering my opinion. Take it for what it is worth. I'm still a diehard Braves fan regardless of how I feel about them at the moment.

Only due to injury, were there any starting pitching issues. If the pen was reliable, the starters could have gone with fewer innings and been healthier at the end of the year. And you're right, starting pitching isn't the reason they are sucking right now. They only have like one player batting over .200. As the season progresses though, starting pitching is going to be an issue. Schwellenbach is fire right now because the other teams haven't found his holes yet, but as they see him some more, he won't be as good as he was his first night.

So we're just discrediting Schwellenbach now?

The bullpen was reliable last year. You have it mixed up. Starters weren't going deeper in games (which is what everyone wants) because the bullpen was bad. They were going deep because they were pitching well. The pen produced the third best fWAR in the league on the third fewest innings.

I already commented on the bullpen this year. AA had a very confusing approach this offseason. I've been saying they needed to replace Arcia since the Harper incident.

I have no problems with most of your opinions. But suggesting that issues in 2025 have anything to do with not being able to re-sign a player 4 seasons ago is absolutely ridiculous. Were you questioning the chemistry the team had when they were winning 100+ games the first two seasons Freddie was gone?

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by unreal13

Our first win coming from a Bryce Elder start makes too much sense at this point with as wacky as the season has started. In reality I expect he gets absolutely shelled and we head home 0-7.

[atk825]

They are hitting .136 as a team and are 1 for 37 with RISP. So like just by dumb luck things will get better. They are also going to get healthy, but yah out of the gate getting wiped on the toughest road trip in baseball still ain't the best look.

[bravesballer]

Obviously getting shelled tonight, Elder shouldn't even be in the big leagues. Doubtful we put up much if anything against Snell either. More worried about getting swept by the Marlins who are actually playing well. If that happens its going to be a long April.

[bravesballer]

Originally Posted by tmoore_25

You said buddy like we were friends or something. I'm not here claiming to be an uber analyst or something. Only offering my opinion. Take it for what it is worth. I'm still a diehard Braves fan regardless of how I feel about them at the moment.

Like I said your wasting your time. He's been happy Freddie was gone and trashing every person on here who said it was a mistake and we would come to regret it since day one. That we've been so incredible these last 3 years without him, even though the regular season doesn't mean anything and we've had 3 of the worst post seasons ever in a row and what did Freddie do in the post last year? I can't remember, but it seemed kind of good. No telling what kind of record and team we would have these last 3 years if we had been able to keep Freddie, but GD it would be pretty hard to be any worse bc we haven't won anything since he left right.

[Rabs]

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[whitmm]

Originally Posted by bravesballer

Like I said your wasting your time. He's been happy Freddie was gone and trashing every person on here who said it was a mistake and we would come to regret it since day one. That we've been so incredible these last 3 years without him, even though the regular season doesn't mean anything and we've had 3 of the worst post seasons ever in a row and what did Freddie do in the post last year? I can't remember, but it seemed kind of good. No telling what kind of record and team we would have these last 3 years if we had been able to keep Freddie, but GD it would be pretty hard to be any worse bc we haven't won anything since he left right.

Show me one spot where I've said I'm glad Freddie is gone. You can't do it. You want to talk about last post-season and what Freddie did? Yeah, he was awesome, loved seeing it. Always been a Freddie fan, still am, always will be. How about the two other post-seasons for him with LA? The 1-10 performance in 2023 where they were swept. Or the 3-14 performance where they also lost their first playoff series? Sorry, but Freddie wasn't the guy to get LA over the hump.

Hard to be any worse? 2 division titles and three trips to the playoffs. Yeah, it's actually very easy for things to be worse.

I'll ask you the same question, were you complaining about the team chemistry when the team was winning 100+ games the first two years that Freddie was gone? The run on bad luck in the playoffs has nothing to do with "the chemistry being off"

The team has been just fine in the regular season in the last three seasons without Freddie. But magically, a rough first two series of the fourth season is because they couldn't get him re-signed? Quite possibly the stupidest take I've ever heard.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Rabs

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This wouldn't have happened if they didn't trade Mark Teixeira in 2008.

[bravesballer]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Show me one spot where I've said I'm glad Freddie is gone. You can't do it. You want to talk about last post-season and what Freddie did? Yeah, he was awesome, loved seeing it. Always been a Freddie fan, still am, always will be. How about the two other post-seasons for him with LA? The 1-10 performance in 2023 where they were swept. Or the 3-14 performance where they also lost their first playoff series? Sorry, but Freddie wasn't the guy to get LA over the hump.

Hard to be any worse? 2 division titles and three trips to the playoffs. Yeah, it's actually very easy for things to be worse.

I'll ask you the same question, were you complaining about the team chemistry when the team was winning 100+ games the first two years that Freddie was gone? The run on bad luck in the playoffs has nothing to do with "the chemistry being off"

The team has been just fine in the regular season in the last three seasons without Freddie. But magically, a rough first two series of the fourth season is because they couldn't get him re-signed? Quite possibly the stupidest take I've ever heard.

Sorry I have no interest in talking to you about it.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by bravesballer

Sorry I have no interest in talking to you about it.

Come on champ. You want to claim I said stuff, back it up.

Convient that you just continue to ignore those first two seasons where the Braves won 100+ games and the Dodgers also were eliminated in the playoffs in their first series.

The team is off to a rough start and it's somehow because they weren't able to re-sign a guy 4 years ago? It somehow took that long before it finally hit them and ruined the chemistry? GTFOH.

The chemistry has been just fine for this team since Freddie has been gone

[whitmm]

More runs in the first inning tonight than the last three games combined.

I assume the official scorer will change the ruling on Allen's hit. Currently being ruled a single, but he already around second when the ball got back to the infield.

[bravesballer]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Come on champ. You want to claim I said stuff, back it up.

Convient that you just continue to ignore those first two seasons where the Braves won 100+ games and the Dodgers also were eliminated in the playoffs in their first series.

The team is off to a rough start and it's somehow because they weren't able to re-sign a guy 4 years ago? It somehow took that long before it finally hit them and ruined the chemistry? GTFOH.

The chemistry has been just fine for this team since Freddie has been gone

Nope, I don't come here to get my kicks feeding trolls.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by bravesballer

Nope, I don't come here to get my kicks feeding trolls.

Because you can't do it. Because you know there's been zero issues with the chemistry in the clubhouse the last three seasons.

Because you were wrong about me saying I was happy Freeman was gone. Cute that you run your mouth and then go running when you get called out.

Freddie's gone, move on. You look pathetic suggesting he has anything to do with this bad start.

[whitmm]

Nick Allen continuing to outplay Arcia.

[Rabs]

There goes the lead…


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[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Rabs

There goes the lead…


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It's just laughable at this point.

[bravesballer]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Because you can't do it. Because you know there's been zero issues with the chemistry in the clubhouse the last three seasons.

Because you were wrong about me saying I was happy Freeman was gone. Cute that you run your mouth and then go running when you get called out.

Freddie's gone, move on. You look pathetic suggesting he has anything to do with this bad start.

No clue what your problem is man, I and anyone here can think whatever we want. Its called an opinion and if I think the Braves would have been better off keeping Freddie than getting Olson its just that, our opinion. Its not a fact and neither is what your saying. Geez, get a grip dude. I'm not pathetic, but your attacks really are.

[atk825]

Given how much playing time Nick Allen is getting why didn’t they back the truck up for Adames again?

[bravesballer]

Even though most of our runs came from Muncy, and again we score one or two innings and that's it, at least our bats had some life. Gives a little hope that we might do something against the Marlins.

[unreal13]

Can't come up empty with the bases loaded, nobody out and 2-4 up.

[bravesballer]

Originally Posted by whitmm

It's just laughable at this point.

"It's been 7 games, the overreactions are ridiculous."

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by unreal13

Can't come up empty with the bases loaded, nobody out and 2-4 up.

That was killer.


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