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Old 09-30-2025, 01:45 PM   #41751
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Sucks for Tyreek. Obviously has his issues, but was an integral part of the Chiefs for Mahomes era, and will be one of the guys from that era to make the HOF.


If you want to go have a good time, go back to some of the takes on this thread when the Chiefs traded Tyreek a few Super Bowl wins ago:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...6928&page=1087


Looking back, I'd say most of the comments were somewhat optimistic about what the Chiefs would look like without Tyreek and with the picks, but here are a few highlights. Others: Not so much...
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How can so many brilliant minds be wrong? Quite the array of posters.

It’s the old tried and true formula: Predict the same thing every year and guess what? One year you’ll be right and you can proclaim yourself a genius!

That said, I’ve definitely been wrong before many times. Haha!

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Old 09-30-2025, 02:16 PM   #41752
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How can so many brilliant minds be wrong? Quite the array of posters.

It’s the old tried and true formula: Predict the same thing every year and guess what? One year you’ll be right and you can proclaim yourself a genius!

That said, I’ve definitely seen wrong before many times. Haha!
Brady haters finally got do a victory lap as soon as he turned 45 and didn't have enough gas in the tank.

LeBron haters have had it a little less difficult, but it's still gotta be rough watching him still be a top guy 20+ years in.
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Old 09-30-2025, 04:34 PM   #41753
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Mahomes had an insane game last weekend. Played out of his mind and the Worthy presence was huge.


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Old 10-02-2025, 05:44 PM   #41755
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How come these past few days I keep seeing mahomes breaking records ..fastest to 250 TDs (over Rodgers)..most TDs through 9 seasons (over manning)..most 4 TD games etc…. All these list include Manning and a few other guys…but NO list included tom Brady. People will argue different eras, but yet Manning put up stats ..so that argument does not hold
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Old 10-02-2025, 06:40 PM   #41756
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Finally got around to taking some pics of one of my more rare and favorite Mahomies. Bought this one in early 2019.

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Old 10-02-2025, 07:26 PM   #41757
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How come these past few days I keep seeing mahomes breaking records ..fastest to 250 TDs (over Rodgers)..most TDs through 9 seasons (over manning)..most 4 TD games etc…. All these list include Manning and a few other guys…but NO list included tom Brady. People will argue different eras, but yet Manning put up stats ..so that argument does not hold
Helps when you got Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison.
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Old 10-02-2025, 07:54 PM   #41758
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How come these past few days I keep seeing mahomes breaking records ..fastest to 250 TDs (over Rodgers)..most TDs through 9 seasons (over manning)..most 4 TD games etc…. All these list include Manning and a few other guys…but NO list included tom Brady. People will argue different eras, but yet Manning put up stats ..so that argument does not hold
Tom Brady is not the GOAT because of the regular season stats he put up in the early 00's.
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Old 10-02-2025, 08:04 PM   #41759
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Tom Brady is not the GOAT because of the regular season stats he put up in the early 00's.
When his playoff number is plummeting and there's a real possibility of him missing the playoff this season (something that Brady never did) folks start to rave about his regulsr season stats. Pathetic I guess
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Old 10-02-2025, 08:44 PM   #41760
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How come these past few days I keep seeing mahomes breaking records ..fastest to 250 TDs (over Rodgers)..most TDs through 9 seasons (over manning)..most 4 TD games etc…. All these list include Manning and a few other guys…but NO list included tom Brady. People will argue different eras, but yet Manning put up stats ..so that argument does not hold
You could touch Brady back then before his injury. You can’t even breathe on qbs these days. It’s sad, doesn’t even feel like football. More like two hand touch. I bet Mahomes, Peyton and any qb would trade their stats for 7 rings.
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Old 10-02-2025, 08:47 PM   #41761
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Mahomes has had record breaking stats on both regular season and playoffs ..in fact, he is the highest performer in the post season by stats alone … so he’s doing BOTH. If all we care about is rings, then Robert Horry is >>> Mj

I’ll give Brady being clutch and longevity

I find it funny that delta is saying Josh Allen is better than mahomes by regular season play alone …yet he’s saying season stats don’t matter for Brady. Sorta ironic

People hate to admit it, but today’s version of Brady is Jalen Hurts. Doesn’t wow anyone, so so stats.. but gets the job done … many people won’t put Jalen hurts in their top 5 qb currently ..that’s how people viewed brady back in the day. Now people want to have amnesia about that .. Manning was always known to be better…hence 5 mvps (individual accolade vs team SB)…too bad people can’t say bad things with mahomes since he’s got both SBs and MVPs

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Mahomes has had record breaking stats on both regular season and playoffs ..in fact, he is the highest performer in the post season by stats alone … so he’s doing BOTH. If all we care about is rings, then Robert Horry is >>> Mj

I’ll give Brady being clutch and longevity

I find it funny that delta is saying Josh Allen is better than mahomes by regular season play alone …yet he’s saying season stats don’t matter for Brady. Sorta ironic

People hate to admit it, but today’s version of Brady is Jalen Hurts. Doesn’t wow anyone, so so stats.. but gets the job done … many people won’t put Jalen hurts in their top 5 qb currently ..that’s how people viewed brady back in the day. Now people want to have amnesia about that .. Manning was always known to be better…hence 5 mvps (individual accolade vs team SB)…too bad people can’t say bad things with mahomes since he’s got both SBs and MVPs
Never once I said regular season stats dont matter
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Mahomes has had record breaking stats on both regular season and playoffs ..in fact, he is the highest performer in the post season by stats alone … so he’s doing BOTH. If all we care about is rings, then Robert Horry is >>> Mj

I’ll give Brady being clutch and longevity

I find it funny that delta is saying Josh Allen is better than mahomes by regular season play alone …yet he’s saying season stats don’t matter for Brady. Sorta ironic

People hate to admit it, but today’s version of Brady is Jalen Hurts. Doesn’t wow anyone, so so stats.. but gets the job done … many people won’t put Jalen hurts in their top 5 qb currently ..that’s how people viewed brady back in the day. Now people want to have amnesia about that .. Manning was always known to be better…hence 5 mvps (individual accolade vs team SB)…too bad people can’t say bad things with mahomes since he’s got both SBs and MVPs
Who were the quarterbacks viewed as better than Brady back in the day?
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Old 10-02-2025, 09:14 PM   #41764
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Who were the quarterbacks viewed as better than Brady back in the day?
Manning, Rogers and Brees…in fact many folks still debate if Brees was on the patriots , he would have won more SBs…this isn’t me saying that, ask around. No one is saying that about Mj…there is a large number of people who don’t see tom as the greatest because of what they saw…don’t shoot the messenger
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Manning, Rogers and Brees…in fact many folks still debate if Brees was on the patriots , he would have won more SBs…this isn’t me saying that, ask around. No one is saying that about Mj…there is a large number of people who don’t see tom as the greatest because of what they saw…don’t shoot the messenger
That’s 3 not 5. And I’m talking about pre 2007 when Brady wasn’t a good qb according to you.

Hurts in no way compares to Brady post 2007. Or pre 2007 for that matter.
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Old 10-02-2025, 09:21 PM   #41766
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If Hurts wins 3 SBs the same fashion as he did his first, he would mirror Brady. The reason mahomes was being touted a possible goat thru a few seasons is because his accolades and how he plays the Qb position … no one was calling Brady goat til he got 5 rings (passing Montana)..reason? It’s because his play …mahomes was a rocket ship from the jump and hasn’t slowed down..his bad year is a SB loss..

But back to my point…Brady is Not on many lists of “fastest to”…deduce that to what you want …those are facts

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If Hurts wins 3 SBs the same fashion as he did his first, he would mirror Brady. The reason mahomes was being touted a possible goat thru a few seasons is because his accolades and how he plays the Qb position … no one was calling Brady goat til he got 5 rings (passing Montana)..reason? It’s because his play …mahomes was a rocket ship from the jump and hasn’t slowed down..his bad year is a SB loss..
Cool, so who are these other quarterbacks viewed as better than Brady? You only gave me 3 names.

Waiting…
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I was referring to Hurts not being in the top 5 for many
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That’s what I thought.

Your arguments are sketchy. Can’t take you seriously.
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I was referring to Hurts not being in the top 5 for many
Then you said that’s how many viewed tom Brady back in the day. Tom Brady was always viewed as a top 5 qb. Before 2007 he was being compared to Joe Montana, the previous goat. That in and of itself precludes him from being viewed outside the top 5 during that era.
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Mahomes has had record breaking stats on both regular season and playoffs ..in fact, he is the highest performer in the post season by stats alone … so he’s doing BOTH. If all we care about is rings, then Robert Horry is >>> Mj

I’ll give Brady being clutch and longevity

I find it funny that delta is saying Josh Allen is better than mahomes by regular season play alone …yet he’s saying season stats don’t matter for Brady. Sorta ironic

People hate to admit it, but today’s version of Brady is Jalen Hurts. Doesn’t wow anyone, so so stats.. but gets the job done … many people won’t put Jalen hurts in their top 5 qb currently ..that’s how people viewed brady back in the day. Now people want to have amnesia about that .. Manning was always known to be better…hence 5 mvps (individual accolade vs team SB)…too bad people can’t say bad things with mahomes since he’s got both SBs and MVPs
I'm not sure why there is a Brady or Brady vs Mahomes discussion going on here,

But comparing Brady's rings to Horry is just stupid. Come on.
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How come these past few days I keep seeing mahomes breaking records ..fastest to 250 TDs (over Rodgers)..most TDs through 9 seasons (over manning)..most 4 TD games etc…. All these list include Manning and a few other guys…but NO list included tom Brady. People will argue different eras, but yet Manning put up stats ..so that argument does not hold
Because Brady didn't have the greatest start to a career ever (if your defining who was the greatest in their 20s).... but he had the greatest 30s and 40s in a career and that's what made him special.

Mahomes did in fact have the greatest 20s for any QB, but to expect anyone to do what Brady did in their 30s and 40s is a lot to ask.

And I'm fine with both of those things being true.
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Manning, Rogers and Brees…in fact many folks still debate if Brees was on the patriots , he would have won more SBs…this isn’t me saying that, ask around.
If you have to play make believe to make your point.....


...... then you have a very weak point.

The primary argument during the 00's was Manning versus Brady, but that argument pretty much disappeared when Manning threw his game losing interception in SB44.

Nobody - nobody - was calling Brees the GOAT because he wasn't all that impressive statistically until well after Brady already had 3 Super Bowls.

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Old 10-03-2025, 05:39 PM   #41774
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Mahomes has had record breaking stats on both regular season and playoffs ..
No, he kinda really doesn't. He only has a lot of records if you qualify them.... IOW, he has things like "most before age 30"... he doesn't have "most".
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already thought it was a solid ish price but being #1 really made me go for it


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