Topps Finest Figuring out the Print Run

[merkin]

Hello all,
New to the hobby.
Little late to the game, but i just bought a bunch of finest.
Love the look and feel of these cards....

I think I understand how to figure a print run from data given,
but when looking at the stats I don't think I have enough information.
The only thing that might give me a clue is the Howards assuming there are no "non-refractors."

Am I missing something?
Can I figure out the print run from the info?
Thanks in advance

Configuration: 8 boxes per case. 3 six-pack mini-boxes per box. 5 cards per pack.

Topps Finest Baseball spotlights the 2007 season's best Rookie cards, including 30 autographed subjects from today's hottest players. This year, 2007 Topps Finest Baseball is introducing a Rookie Redemption Program featuring cards that can be exchanged for low-numbered actual 2007 Rookie cards.

SET FEATURES
* Thirty 2007 MLB Rookie base cards!
* Mickey Mantle cut signature cards!
* New Rookie Card Redemption Program! 1 per master box!
* Autographed cards! 3 per master box!
* Refractor parallels! 12 per master box!
* Two box loaders per master box!


BASE CARDS (135) - 5 PER PACK!
* Veteran(105)
* Rookies(15)
* Autographed Rookie Cards(15)

FINEST MOMENTS(105) - 6 PER MASTER BOX! 2 per mini-box; includes Rookie Autos and their parallels
Inserts
* MLB Veterans in their Rookie season(50)


Autographs(30)
* Gold Refractor - Numbered 1 of 1
* Refractor - Sequentially numbered to 25


Dual Autographs(25)
* SuperFractor - Numbered 1 of 1
* Refractor - Sequentially numbered to 25

FRAMED PRINTING PLATES
* Base and Insert Cards(200 subjects/4 per) - Each is a 1 of 1
* Autographed Cards(45 subjects/4 per) - Each is a 1 of 1

MANTLE FINEST MOMENTSTOPPS EXCLUSIVE!
* Mickey Mantle Cut Signature(1) - 1 of 1
* Cut Signature(1 subject/4 per) - Each is a 1 of 1

NEW ROOKIE REDEMPTION PROGRAM - Sequentially numbered
2007 Rookie Cards(10) - 1 PER MASTER BOX!

REFRACTOR PARALLELS- 12 PER MASTER BOX! 4 per mini-box!
Also paralleled are Rookie Auto and Finest Moment subjects!
* 1 of 1 Die-Cut SuperFractor(215) - Numbered 1 of 1
* 1 of 1 White-Framed X-Fractor(215) - Numbered 1 of 1
* X-Fractor(215) - Sequentially numbered to 25
* Gold Refractor(215) - Sequentially numbered to 50
* Black Refractor(215) - Sequentially numbered to 99
* Green Refractor(215) - Sequentially numbered to 199
* Blue Refractor(215) - Sequentially numbered to 299
* Refractor(215)

RYAN HOWARD FINEST MOMENTS BOX LOADER - 2 CARDS PER BOX LOADER PACK! 1 PER MASTER BOX!
* Refractor(58) - Sequentially numbered to 149
* X-Fractor(58) - Sequentially numbered to 50
* Gold Refractor(58) - Numbered 1 of 1


ALEX RODRIGUEZ BOX LOADER - 2 CARDS PER BOX LOADER PACK! 1 PER MASTER BOX!
* Alex Rodriguez Road to 500 inserts(25)
* Alex Rodriguez Road to 500 autographed cards(25) - Each is a 1 of 1!

[Jughead]

Originally Posted by merkin

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RYAN HOWARD FINEST MOMENTS BOX LOADER - 2 CARDS PER BOX LOADER PACK! 1 PER MASTER BOX!
* Refractor(58) - Sequentially numbered to 149
* X-Fractor(58) - Sequentially numbered to 50
* Gold Refractor(58) - Numbered 1 of 1

I remember we figured this out. 200 x 58 = 11600 master boxes, divided by 8 equals 1450 eight-box cases. Does this make sense to anyone? Hobby stores were four-box cases, and distributors were eight-box ones -- I remember that.

[go_steelers07]

the non refractor Howard's are numbered to 459..... i think.... but they are numbered. anyway, that would make the print run:

58(459+149+50+1)/2 = 19111 master boxes. which is approx 2389 8 box cases.

[merkin]

thanks guys

so that means if redemptions are spread evenly 1-10, then there are 1911 Auto Joba's out there.....

[Jughead]

Only if they are all redeemed. There will be plenty that aren't, and theoretically Topps will shred them.

[go_steelers07]

Originally Posted by Jughead

Only if they are all redeemed. There will be plenty that aren't, and theoretically Topps will shred them.

ie: some employee takes them home and sells them......