PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc

[Bruins1993]

Dear Goodwin & Co. and PWCC,

How many consignments have you sold for Gary Moser? Are you willing to provide a public list of Gary Moser sold consignments to notify/protect the auction winners? Collectors should know if they have a potentially altered card given the extent of this thread.

Never get cheated,
Right?

[corndog]

PSA Cert #14050937

1948 Leaf Warren Spahn #32

Value gain of $1,300.16

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller trusted_treasures as a BVG 5.5 on July 20, 2008 for $233.83.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 8 for $1,533.99 on February 01, 2011.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15381260

1948 Leaf Warren Spahn #32

Value gain of $3,171.25

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller sandlotheros as a SGC 7 on May 20, 2008 for $765.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $3,936.25 on July 17, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #16129591

1948 Leaf Warren Spahn #32

Value gain of $1,483.74

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller bbcexchange as a SGC 7 on October 18, 2009 for $716.26.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 8 for $2,200.00 on June 07, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[Bruins1993]

To date, what has become of bringing the individuals that engaged in this type of deception/fraud to justice? As far as I know we are all in the dark.

Are the buyers simply being offered purchase cost reimbursement? How about the loss of value if they had purchased an unaltered numerically graded card (purchase grade vs. todays market price)? PSA is sending individuals back to the seller, who I understand is offering purchase price, however that seems like a potential loss of value versus present market prices...

To me, the most important question, who does PSA protect, card doctors or collectors? What I mean by that, does PSA have all the submission records for cards submitted by the individuals featured in this thread? Shouldn't all those cards/certification numbers be recalled for evaluation to protect collectors? Never get cheated?

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by Bruins1993

To date, what has become of bringing the individuals that engaged in this type of deception/fraud to justice? As far as I know we are all in the dark.

Are the buyers simply being offered purchase cost reimbursement? How about the loss of value if they had purchased an unaltered numerically graded card (purchase grade vs. todays market price)? PSA is sending individuals back to the seller, who I understand is offering purchase price, however that seems like a potential loss of value versus present market prices...

To me, the most important question, who does PSA protect, card doctors or collectors? What I mean by that, does PSA have all the submission records for cards submitted by the individuals featured in this thread? Shouldn't all those cards/certification numbers be recalled for evaluation to protect collectors? Never get cheated?

PSA probably just wants a certain distribution of grades in their pop report no matter what. It helps sell slabs.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15381262

1948 Leaf Ewell Blackwell #39

Value gain of $254.45

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller sandlotheros as a SGC 7 on May 20, 2008 for $91.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8 for $345.45 on February 11, 2010.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15549218

1948 Leaf Ted Kluszewski #38

Value gain of $585.23

PSA Set Registry: The Bluegrass Collection

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller capecodvintage as a SGC 6 on June 16, 2008 for $104.50.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8 for $689.73 on February 12, 2010.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15277259

1948 Leaf Billy Johnson #14

Value gain of $858.66

PSA Set Registry: Andrew's 1948 Leaf Basic Set

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller markirodenko as a PSA 5 on January 28, 2008 for $46.09.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8 for $904.75 on February 13, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15723805

1948 Leaf Billy Johnson #14

Value gain of $1,016.10

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller *playmakers as a PSA 6.5 on June 29, 2009 for $79.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $1,095.10 on February 12, 2010.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[3124508 on COMC]

NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF SID LUCKMAN #1:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 7 Cert #10620146



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 6 Cert #17711090



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 8 Cert #15812336



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 5 Cert #16409052



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 5 Cert #16520680



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 6 Cert #17809928




ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF SID LUCKMAN #1:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 2 Cert #27364007



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 4 Cert #41004591



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 6 Cert #22755922



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 6 Cert #25578082



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 8 Cert #16188975



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Sid Luckman PSA 4 Cert #26467168

[corndog]

The buyer of this card is presently unknown (masked id of y***n). It was purchased thru PWCC and sold thru PWCC so there should be records of this buyer/consigner.
PSA has a record of the card submitter.

Note that both sales were by PWCC, but only the second time (post ateration) did the card receive a Certified High End sticker by Brent Huigens. *There was only a four month time period between sales.

This post will be updated when/if the buyer is identified or possibly a new thread will be started.

Brent Huigens' assessment of the card in March of 2016:


Brent Huigens' assessment of the card in July of 2016:



PSA Cert #25776400

N28 - 1888 Allen & Ginter Cap Anson #3

Value gain of $608.00

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by an unknown buyer (y***n) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 3 on March 06, 2016 for $2,550.00.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 3.5 for $3,158.00 on July 13, 2016.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify improved corners, a pressed out crease and stain removal (attempted).

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Wow, great work corndog!

Flip should read "8 PREVIOUSLY 4.5"

[3124508 on COMC]

NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF CLYDE (BULLDOG) TURNER #3:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Clyde (Bulldog) Turner PSA 9 Cert #14255446



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Clyde (Bulldog) Turner PSA 8 Cert #16316547



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF CLYDE (BULLDOG) TURNER #3:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Clyde (Bulldog) Turner PSA 6 Cert #18564293



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Clyde (Bulldog) Turner PSA 7 Cert #27364008



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Clyde (Bulldog) Turner PSA 8 Cert #15812335

[3124508 on COMC]

NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF DOAK WALKER #4:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 8 Cert #26782123



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 7 Cert #23977969



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 6 Cert #16409053



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 7 Cert #21588635



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 5 Cert #15812334



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 7 Cert #15549207



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF DOAK WALKER #4:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 7 Cert #23472692



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 6.5 Cert #20946827



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Doak Walker PSA 8 Cert #25578084

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #14429733

1948 Leaf Ralph Weigel #86

Value gain of $168.85

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller cooperstownsportscards as a PSA 7.5 on September 21, 2008 for $115.50.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8 for $284.35 on February 10, 2010.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15440578

1948 Leaf Ralph Weigel #86

Value gain of $443.48

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller card2handle as a PSA 8 on May 26, 2008 for $305.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $748.48 on July 17, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[3124508 on COMC]

NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF BOBBY LAYNE #6 RED PANTS:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bobby Layne PSA 8 Cert #16192943

[pspa123]

Lovely. As I have said many times, the hobby is an unholy alliance among card doctors, sellers, and TPGs.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #16270313

1948 Leaf Martin Marion #97

Value gain of $403.40

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller bbcexchange as a PSA 7.5 on November 22, 2009 for $213.48.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $616.88 on February 12, 2010.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[pspa123]

Bill Goodwin, I have heard, is back for yet another stint in the business. I wonder who his consignors will be.

[MoreToppsPlease]

More examples of PSA & PWCC making cards more expensive.

[Pink Pussycat]

PSA is not even trying anymore...

When have you ever seen legitimate 1948 Leafs with borders that narrow? One quick glance tells you definitively that these cards are trimmed.

PSA doesn't even need their missing rulers for these cards. This has transcended incompetence, and has entered the criminal corruption phase.

[goduke]

Originally Posted by Pink Pussycat

PSA is not even trying anymore...

:

Are the years listed correct? All these examples are 10-11 years old?

[mjohnatgt]

Originally Posted by goduke

Are the years listed correct? All these examples are 10-11 years old?

Why wouldn't they be? PSA was aware of Gary Moser and friends being major trimmers in 2005 and Joe Orlando remarked at the National that year that he would not suspend their ability to submit cards. As said before, if PSA (and new co-owner Nat Turner) wanted to make things right, they could DECERTIFY ALL CARDS SUBMITTED BY MOSER, PWCC, and the rest of the known card alterers outed.