PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc

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ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF PAUL CHRISTMAN #21:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf George Taliaferro PSA 7 Cert #19606407

[Friars]

Originally Posted by corndog

An unsuccessful mess created by Moser/Huigens.

PSA Cert #19776760

1948 Leaf Matthew Batts #108

Value LOSS of $242.00

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller diamondstarsportscards as a PSA 6 on October 27, 2010 for $325.00.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA ALTERED for $83.00 on November 13, 2017.

Catch rate of 1/750 isn't terrible

[Pink Pussycat]

Originally Posted by Friars

Catch rate of 1/750 isn't terrible

It's pathetic. The razor sharp edges and corners are so ridiculously unnatural looking on these vintage Leaf cards. It should be an immediate tipoff to PSA, and they've somehow missed it (everytime but one).

If you were a grader, wouldn't the ultra-sharp corners and bright white borders represent a tip-off, that the card should be investigated further? Those obvious factors, combined with the criminal submitter should at least prompt the grader to break out a ruler or blacklight.

And exactly why did PSA decline to de-certify the moser-submitted cards? They have done NOTHING at all to garner the public trust. In any other business, there would be an immense public outcry and a potential boycott. But in this greed-filled arena, the non-communication, ineptitude, favoritism, corruption, lies, censorship and deception has only helped them grow.

Never Get Cheated.

[corndog]

Credit to 312 for finding this one.

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #08982286

1948 Leaf Frank Overmire #17

Value gain of $1,162.55

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller brsz-2 as a PSA 6 on February 08, 2008 for $43.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $1,205.55 on February 13, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #42313728

1948 Leaf Clifford Fannin #123

Value gain of $172.50

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 5 on April 25, 2018 for $233.50.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 6 for $406.00 on March 29, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15085463

1948 Leaf Warren Rosar #128

Value gain of $6,187.81

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller clubcards as a PSA 6.5 on August 14, 2008 for $34.99.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 9 for $6,222.80 on February 12, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #19224466

1948 Leaf Warren Rosar #128

Value gain of $171.16

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller laurasalzy as a PSA 5 on September 25, 2011 for $17.60.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 8 for $188.76 on September 11, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

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NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF STEVE VAN BUREN #22:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 7 Cert #16737213



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 8 Cert #41221904
(Not a Moser card)



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 7 Cert #20386757



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 6 Cert #25578087



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 8 Cert #17865633



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 8.5 Cert #16316551



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 8 Cert #27581418



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF STEVE VAN BUREN #22:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 8 Cert #15713080



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 7 Cert #23977971



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 7 Cert #25959105



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Steve Van Buren PSA 7 Cert #26466901

[Friars]

Originally Posted by Pink Pussycat

It's pathetic. The razor sharp edges and corners are so ridiculously unnatural looking on these vintage Leaf cards. It should be an immediate tipoff to PSA, and they've somehow missed it (everytime but one).

If you were a grader, wouldn't the ultra-sharp corners and bright white borders represent a tip-off, that the card should be investigated further? Those obvious factors, combined with the criminal submitter should at least prompt the grader to break out a ruler or blacklight.

And exactly why did PSA decline to de-certify the moser-submitted cards? They have done NOTHING at all to garner the public trust. In any other business, there would be an immense public outcry and a potential boycott. But in this greed-filled arena, the non-communication, ineptitude, favoritism, corruption, lies, censorship and deception has only helped them grow.

Never Get Cheated.

Yeah I'm with you, I was being sarcastic. It is somewhat ironic that a guy who looks like a 70s porn star is responsible for raping sports cards earliest specimens.

[Friars]

Originally Posted by Pink Pussycat

It's pathetic. The razor sharp edges and corners are so ridiculously unnatural looking on these vintage Leaf cards. It should be an immediate tipoff to PSA, and they've somehow missed it (everytime but one).

If you were a grader, wouldn't the ultra-sharp corners and bright white borders represent a tip-off, that the card should be investigated further? Those obvious factors, combined with the criminal submitter should at least prompt the grader to break out a ruler or blacklight.

And exactly why did PSA decline to de-certify the moser-submitted cards? They have done NOTHING at all to garner the public trust. In any other business, there would be an immense public outcry and a potential boycott. But in this greed-filled arena, the non-communication, ineptitude, favoritism, corruption, lies, censorship and deception has only helped them grow.

Never Get Cheated.

Also, I agree about the de certification, how can nothing be done from a professional level? if we find cheating we strip players of their heisman trophies and other awards etc etc.

They are telling the consumer that if you don't want to buy a mangled pos, to have a good eye for the card when purchasing. Thats not a firm enough role when at the very least their company was defrauded.

Unless, of course the fine folks at PSA believe trimming and touch ups and bright white 80 year old cards are truly signs of preservation.

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NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF KEN KAVANAUGH #23:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Ken Kavanaugh PSA 7 Cert #19776773



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF KEN KAVANAUGH #23:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Ken Kavanaugh PSA 8 Cert #21227864

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ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF JIM MARTIN #24:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Jim Martin PSA 6 Cert #19623360



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Jim Martin PSA 6 Cert #25790393

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NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF BUD ANGSMAN #25:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bud Angsman PSA 8.5 Cert #17468471



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bud Angsman PSA 8 Cert #17929167



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF BUD ANGSMAN #25:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bud Angsman PSA 7 Cert #22136487

[corndog]

PSA Cert #20870984

1948 Leaf Kirby Higbe #129

Value gain of $386.49

PSA Set Registry: private

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller www.stevenovella.com as a PSA 5 on October 24, 2012 for $239.49.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 6 for $625.98 on October 05, 2014.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by an unknown buyer from hugginsandscott in 2006, trimmed, graded by PSA and then consigned to and sold by probstein123 in 2012. It is likely not tied to Moser or PWCC.

PSA Cert #14595234

1948 Leaf Kirby Higbe #129

Value gain of $53.17

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by an unknown buyer from Auction seller hugginsandscott as a GAI 4 on March 15, 2006 for $188.00.

Same card was sold by Probstein123 as a PSA 6 for $241.17 on September 18, 2012.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15277255

1948 Leaf Cliff Aberson #136 short sleeves

Value gain of $3,659.91

PSA Set Registry: Littlewahoo

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller www-jasonssportscards-com as a PSA 6 on March 23, 2008 for $103.61.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8 for $3,763.52 on February 13, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[mjohnatgt]

Except it is the Short Sleeve variation like they graded it the first time... Looks like Heritage may have had it corrected:

[corndog]

PSA Cert #15237458

1948 Leaf Harry Walker #137

Value gain of $53.34

PSA Set Registry: bobsbbcards

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller milehighcard as a PSA 4 on March 31, 2008 for $236.66.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 5 for $290.00 on October 06, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #24182101

1948 Leaf Danny Murtaugh #142

Value gain of $639.35

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 4 on February 16, 2015 for $186.49.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 6 for $825.84 on June 07, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #27581422

1948 Leaf Dick Sisler #143

Value gain of $201.85

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller littlewahoo as a PSA 2.5 on May 21, 2017 for $168.15.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 6 for $370.00 on October 09, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.

[5CentWaxPack]

Looking to the future, how does a business like PWCC's do anything differently after being so consistently involved in fraud for this many years? It would seem the hobby as a whole does not care so much. Aside from time behind bars I am not sure there is really an incentive for him to change.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by 5CentWaxPack

Looking to the future, how does a business like PWCC's do anything differently after being so consistently involved in fraud for this many years? It would seem the hobby as a whole does not care so much. Aside from time behind bars I am not sure there is really an incentive for him to change.

The people who don’t seem to care don’t know or don’t mind fraud.

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NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF BOB WATERFIELD #26:

Trimmed and Recolored: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6 Cert #25229741



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 Cert #17157836



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 Cert #25230124



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7.5 Cert #19438056



Trimmed and Recolored/Removed Common Print Defect: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 8 Cert #27843816



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 Cert #23478374



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6 Cert #19532555



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 Cert #16808543



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6 Cert #25578089



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF BOB WATERFIELD #26:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 Cert #20580392



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6 Cert #26255227



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6 Cert #29059569



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 6.5 Cert #17393317

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NEW TRIMMED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF FRED DAVIS #27:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Fred Davis PSA 8 Cert #21680045



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Fred Davis PSA 7 Cert #10620150



ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF FRED DAVIS #27:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Fred Davis PSA 7 Cert #22755926



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Fred Davis PSA 8 Cert #20778902

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ALREADY OUTED COPIES OF 1948 LEAF WHITEY WISTERT #28:

Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Whitey Wistert PSA 7 Cert #24182111



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Whitey Wistert PSA 7 Cert #26255226



Trimmed: 1948 Leaf Whitey Wistert PSA 7 Cert #18961526