PWCC Altered Cards Callout Thread - 1952 Topps Mantle etc

[gabballplayer14]

Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

They have already made their coin. They don't care if their rep is in flames.

Not really the point...

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Originally Posted by gabballplayer14

Not really the point...

Business can go down the tubes and these guys will just roll their money into a new business. Brent's a smart guy.

[TheRealDeal]

Originally Posted by Bassplayah101

Well, they arent mitigating vulnerabilities on their domain.
web01.pwccmarketplace.com has 1.5 pages of apache vulnerabilities


They are hosting some things in AWS (cloud)

This website is the xml for about 1000 card url's (The Jeter PSA 10 youre looking for isnt in the list)
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pwccauctions/

every line that looks like this: <Key>2015/2015_1/1000_10_1.jpg</Key> is an image, you can append the contents of <key> to the end of https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/pwccauctions/ to get the image.

example: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/p.../1000_10_4.jpg

What I find interesting is some of the <key> tags are missing a file.


EDIT: THIS appears to be the filename of the Jeter PSA 10, and no surprise.. its broken.

<Error>
<Code>NoSuchKey</Code>
<Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message>
<Key>2018/2018_4/382_0418A5_1.jpg</Key>
<RequestId>24871BB5EF06FE34</RequestId>
<HostId>
Alo2KhVR3SKIhjaeSm3JZPzTvI+b7Uz2flBz5Te3toTMtUN1hqFISHJRUNMyYxA8lJR+9xdS/D8=
</HostId>
</Error>

ENGLISH PLEASE!

[SirTommyWinAlot]

Originally Posted by TheRealDeal

ENGLISH PLEASE!

It means somebody's being sneaky sneaky.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by TheRealDeal

ENGLISH PLEASE!

I understood it .... up to "they aren't" anyhow.

[ThoseBackPages]

[Bassplayah101]

Originally Posted by TheRealDeal

ENGLISH PLEASE!

It means that their actions appeared suspect.

However, Dan said the images were all back, so my l33t hax0r skeels failed.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

File name changed to:

2018/2018_4/7935_0418A5_1.jpg

For whatever that's worth.

[gabballplayer14]

Looks like I found one.

I'm not savvy with the copy/pasting of the old auction and the detail that Dan and 312 are doing, but this 2001 SP Authentic Gold Ichiro 24/50 PSA 10: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-SP-Aut...53.m1438.l2649

Used to be a BGS 8.5, with subgrades of 8.5 and Corners 9. Sold October 22, 2018.

Then was a PSA 9 that sold on December 16, 2018 for $1269

If someone can give me an assist, I would appreciate it.

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by gabballplayer14

Looks like I found one.

I'm not savvy with the copy/pasting of the old auction and the detail that Dan and 312 are doing, but this 2001 SP Authentic Gold Ichiro 24/50 PSA 10: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-SP-Aut...53.m1438.l2649

Used to be a BGS 8.5, with subgrades of 8.5 and Corners 9. Sold October 22, 2018.

Then was a PSA 9 that sold on December 16, 2018 for $1269

If someone can give me an assist, I would appreciate it.

Thanks. I'll throw up a thread right now (giving you credit) and send it over to PWCC.

[cking]

Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

Brent's a smart guy.

I know two people he is not smarter then

Superdan and 3124508

[gabballplayer14]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Thanks. I'll throw up a thread right now (giving you credit) and send it over to PWCC.

You’re awesome, thank you!

[MBMiller25]

Originally Posted by PWCC Marketplace

These threads continue to be appreciated and we are grateful for the research.

While the original subject of this thread, the '52 Mantle, is an example of how a card can, in our opinion, be conserved, there have been a number of cards identified on this thread that do fit the definition of alteration.

Thanks to these important efforts, I will say that the submitters of the items that have been identified as altered are prohibited from participating in the PWCC Marketplace moving forward based on the terms of our Marketplace Tenets. We are also working with the grading companies to address the issue according to our Tenets.

Please don't hesitate to contact me at betsy@pwccmarketplace.com with any specific questions or comments.

I just wanted to take a minute and say a sincere Thank you to SuperDan, CornDog and 3124508 on COMC for the work the three of you are doing. You all should be applauded for everything your doing to clean up this hobby/business.

As angry as I am about your response above(and your inability to see how disrespectful your response is to purest collectors) and everything I have read that you and Brent have put in writing over the last week, I am going to remove my emotion from this post, and simple say that we spent a lot of time at last year's National discussing estate planning and working with my lawyer to finalize my wishes if anything should ever happen to me to as a single parent with three children. I know you will remember what I estimated my collection to be worth and its not chump change. Let me say publicly that I will never do a penny of business with PWCC moving forward.

We all have opinions, and I believe in respecting each and everyone's opinion on these boards, but this has absolutely ruined what has for years been a "getaway" for me, and I for one will no longer spend any substantial money purchasing cards moving forward. Thanks for assisting to shove this trash into the marketplace PWCC. Typical...., You put the love of the almighty dollar ahead of doing what's right! Lastly, Your actions speak so much louder than your words, so no matter how you try to spin this, I believe the majority will see you all for your true colors.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by MBMiller25

I just wanted to take a minute and say a sincere Thank you to SuperDan, CornDog and 3124508 on COMC for the work the three of you are doing. You all should be applauded for everything your doing to clean up this hobby/business.

As angry as I am about your response above(and your inability to see how disrespectful your response is to purest collectors) and everything I have read that you and Brent have put in writing over the last week, I am going to remove my emotion from this post, and simple say that we spent a lot of time at last year's National discussing estate planning and working with my lawyer to finalize my wishes if anything should ever happen to me to as a single parent with three children. I know you will remember what I estimated my collection to be worth and its not chump change. Let me say publicly that I will never do a penny of business with PWCC moving forward.

We all have opinions, and I believe in respecting each and everyone's opinion on these boards, but this has absolutely ruined what has for years been a "getaway" for me, and I for one will no longer spend any substantial money purchasing cards moving forward. Thanks for assisting to shove this trash into the marketplace PWCC. Typical...., You put the love of the almighty dollar ahead of doing what's right! Lastly, Your actions speak so much louder than your words, so no matter how you try to spin this, I believe the majority will see you all for your true colors.

I think you've articulated how a lot of us feel and in some cases have felt for a long time about the cancer on the hobby caused by card doctors and their enablers. In my case I'd like to think that I've been able to minimize the problem by various measures, but perhaps that is delusional. The whole thing is vile.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Moving forward past all of this garbage, I’d like to now if any resources are available to spot doctored cards beyond finding the same card online and comparing the two.

Does anyone know?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Moving forward past all of this garbage, I’d like to now if any resources are available to spot doctored cards beyond finding the same card online and comparing the two.

Does anyone know?

Why is this garbage?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Moving forward past all of this garbage, I’d like to now if any resources are available to spot doctored cards beyond finding the same card online and comparing the two.

Does anyone know?

You can extrapolate the size of the card based on the size of the psa case in the photos. This might help discern if it is short or not.

[rainmaker]

well my last consignment to pwcc just recently paid out. great hammers i couldn't be happier with the results. however, they lost me as a customer and will never sell another one of my cards with this whole ordeal. i know i am not the only one.

[HarryLime]

Does anyone need a copy of the Jeter image?

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Why is this garbage?

By garbage, I was referring to all the newly discovered corruption.

[EricTownsend88]

Superdan and 3124508 - thank you both very much for making this hobby a better place!! We are lucky to have you guys do what you do!

[pspa123]

Can you guys tell if the Mantle is still unpaid, sorry if I missed any recent posts.

[ThoseBackPages]

im not sure

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Can you guys tell if the Mantle is still unpaid, sorry if I missed any recent posts.

Still unpaid as of right now.

[Rooftop]

Originally Posted by MBMiller25

I just wanted to take a minute and say a sincere Thank you to SuperDan, CornDog and 3124508 on COMC for the work the three of you are doing. You all should be applauded for everything your doing to clean up this hobby/business.

As angry as I am about your response above(and your inability to see how disrespectful your response is to purest collectors) and everything I have read that you and Brent have put in writing over the last week, I am going to remove my emotion from this post, and simple say that we spent a lot of time at last year's National discussing estate planning and working with my lawyer to finalize my wishes if anything should ever happen to me to as a single parent with three children. I know you will remember what I estimated my collection to be worth and its not chump change. Let me say publicly that I will never do a penny of business with PWCC moving forward.

We all have opinions, and I believe in respecting each and everyone's opinion on these boards, but this has absolutely ruined what has for years been a "getaway" for me, and I for one will no longer spend any substantial money purchasing cards moving forward. Thanks for assisting to shove this trash into the marketplace PWCC. Typical...., You put the love of the almighty dollar ahead of doing what's right! Lastly, Your actions speak so much louder than your words, so no matter how you try to spin this, I believe the majority will see you all for your true colors.

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