2020 All-Time Redraft Voting Round 1- NL West

[Hollywood42]

Over the past few months, we have been conducting an all-time redraft of the MLB. The project is now complete, and it is time to crown our champion through a series of polls. Here we have the NL East.

As a voter, your task is simple- Which of the following teams is the best all-time team? Pick your top 2 teams.

The following are the rosters of each team. Owners also had the opportunity to submit a short justification of why you should vote for their team. Teams are listed here in alphabetical order. Poll will be open for 1 week


Atlanta Braves

Lineup
1. Ozzie Smith (SS)
2. Torii Hunter (CF)
3. Giancarlo Stanton (LF)
4. Jackie Robinson (1B)
5. Roger Maris (RF)
6. J.D. Martinez (DH)
7. Victor Martinez (C)
8. Bill Mazeroski (2B)
9. Evan Longoria (3B)

Bench
1. Ryan Howard (1B)
2. Prince Fielder (1B)
3. Jason Kendall (C)
4. Neil Walker (2B)

Rotation
1. Sandy Koufax (SP)
2. Gerrit Cole (SP)
3. Catfish Hunter (SP)
4. Barry Zito (SP)
5. Jake Arrieta (SP)

Bullpen
1. Jason Isringhausen (CL)
2. Frank Viola (SU)

My team consists of a good mix of power in the middle of the batting lineup with solid defense as well. Leading my pitching staff is one of the very best to ever pitch in the game Sandy Koufax. Wanted also to have the legendary number 42 Jackie Robinson leading the offense. All in all very excited to have a team with a combined 70 All Star appearances and a staggering 2,938 combined HR's!


Miami Marlins

Lineup
1 Frankie Frisch (2B)
2 Arky Vaughn (SS)
3 Dan Brouthers (1B)
4 Joe Dimaggio (CF)
5 Goose Gosslin (LF)
6 Earl Averill (RF)
7 Paul Molitor (3B)
8 Roy Campanela (C)
9 Edd Roush (DH)

Bench
B Rabbit Maranville (SS, 2B)
B Mark Texiera (1B, 3B)
B Frank Howard (1B, OF)
B Joe Carter (OF)

Rotation
SP1 Roger Clemens
SP2 Red Ruffing
SP3 Burleigh Grimes
SP4 Joe McGinnity
SP5 Red Faber

Bullpen
CL Rich Gossage
BP Dave McNally

Starting Lineup: All 9 in HOF. 8 have a career BA of .306 or higher. 7 career BA of .316 or higher. 2 3X MVP
Bench: 1 HOF, 3 players with HR totals of 382,396 and 409. 4 players with 26 total top 20 MVP finishes
SP: 4 of 5 in the HOF, the other being 7x Cy Young winner Roger Clemens. All 5 SP have a minimum of 4 20 Win seasons.
Bullpen: Closer in the HOF. Long man won 20 games 4 times
INSANE STAT: 8 players are in the top 10 at their position in Jafe's JAWS score system


Montreal Expos

Lineup
1) Maury Wills (SS)
2) Moises Alou (LF)
3) Mike Piazza (C)
4) Frank Robinson (RF)
5) Eddie Murray (1B)
6) Orlando Cepeda (DH)
7) Hack Wilson (CF)
8) Ron Santo (3B)
9) Bobby Doerr (2B)

Bench
Fred Lynn
Trea Turner

Rotation
Gaylord Perry
Andy Pettite
Denny McClain
Josh Beckett
Bob Welch

Bullpen
Long Relief : Blake Snell
Long Relief: Rick Porcello
Setup: Roberto Osuna
Closer: John Wetteland

Team Accolades: 8 HOF, 6 MVP, 106 AS appearences, 17 world series champs, 15 gold gloves
Batting Accolades: 15 silver sluggers, 2 batting titles, 3426 HR, 23,227 total hits, .292 BA, .848 ops, 13,142 RBI, 53.58 average war
Pitching Accolades: 7 CY youngs, 1299 Wins, 504 Saves, 3.44 era 1.18 WHIP 14375 K, 1 era title, 34.1 avg war


New York Mets

Lineup
1. Rickey Henderson (LF)
2. Wade Boggs (3B)
3. Edgar Martinez (DH)
4. Larry Walker (RF)
5. Jim Edmonds (CF)
6. Will Clark (1B)
7. Alex Bregman (SS)
8. Brian McCann (C)
9. Jose Reyes (2B)

U]Bench[/U]
B. Jay Buhner
B. Edgardo Alfonzo

Rotation
SP1. Randy Johnson
SP2. Bret Saberhagen
SP3. Corey Kluber
SP4. AJ Burnett
SP5. Doug Drabek

Bullpen
RP1. Josh Hader
RP2. Joakim Soria
RP3 Seth Lugo
CL. Tom Henke

My team rocks. Pick them. Or don't. I dont care


Philadelphia Phillies

Lineup
1. Bernie Williams (CF)
2. Anthony Rendon (3B)
3. Hank Aaron (RF)
4. Willie Stargell (LF)
5. Yogi Berra (C)
6. Jeff Kent (2B)
7. Gil Hodges (DH)
8. Todd Helton (1B)
9. Phil Rizzuto (SS)

Bench
B - Troy Tulowitzki (SS)
B - Rusty Staub (OF)

Rotation
SP1 - Clayton Kershaw
SP2 - Stephen Strasburg
SP3 - David Cone
SP4 - Mickey Lolich
SP5 - Dave Stieb

Bullpen
RP1 - Herb Pennock
RP2 - Ted Lyons
RP3 - Joe Niekro
CL - Huston Street

This lineup has 4 HOFers, several HR hitters, high WAR players, and some defensive greats as well. The rotation has some modern greats including arguably the best pitcher of today's generation, as well as a bunch of high strikeout pitchers. The bullpen is filled with 2 HOFers and pitchers who can also start if needed. An all-around great team here.

[Hollywood42]

NL East. Oops

[Cubsfanp]

I like that Phillies team but the lineup could use some re-arranging.

[999tony]

I’ve been following the draft but picking a best team would be tough. Has anyone made comparison of teams based on things like total war highest peak war or other universal metrics (would need mles for non major league players, maybe separate stats for starting eight? I guess for guys still playing would have to estimate rest of career. Maybe Tom tresh stats could be used but only go back to 1920s or so. Or am I taking this too seriously

[Cubsfanp]

Originally Posted by 999tony

I’ve been following the draft but picking a best team would be tough. Has anyone made comparison of teams based on things like total war highest peak war or other universal metrics (would need mles for non major league players, maybe separate stats for starting eight? I guess for guys still playing would have to estimate rest of career. Maybe Tom tresh stats could be used but only go back to 1920s or so. Or am I taking this too seriously

I think its up to each voter to decide on how to vote. Using stats would be hard because of different eras, leagues (Negro and Foreign). Not to mention some stats were not kept in certain eras. WAR advanced metrics are also very deceiving across eras.

[34JacktheRipper]

Ah crap. Meant to post in the main thread.

[ldsports]

Today's History lesson is Dan Brouthers Wiki

(he is on the Miami Marlins roster BTW)

Dennis Joseph "Dan" Brouthers (/ˈbruːθərz/;[1] May 8, 1858 – August 2, 1932) was an American first baseman in Major League Baseball whose career spanned the period from 1879 to 1896, with a brief return in 1904. Nicknamed "Big Dan" for his size, he was 6 feet 2 inches (1.88 m) and weighed 207 pounds (94 kg), which was large by 19th-century standards.[2]

Recognized as the first great slugger in baseball history,[3] and among the greatest sluggers of his era, he held the record for career home runs from 1887 to 1889,[4] with his final total of 106 tying for the fourth most of the 19th century. His career slugging percentage of .519 remained the Major League record for a player with at least 4,000 at bats until Ty Cobb edged ahead of him in 1922. At the time of his initial retirement, he also ranked second in career triples (205), and third in runs batted in (1,296) and hits.[5]

A dominant hitter during the prime of his career, he led (or was in the top of) the league in most offensive categories, including batting average, runs scored, runs batted in (RBI), on-base percentage and hits. He led the league in batting average five times, the most by a 19th-century player, and his career .342 batting average still ranks ninth all-time. Brouthers is one of only 29 players in baseball history to date who have appeared in Major League games in four decades.

[7jacfire]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

I like that Phillies team but the lineup could use some re-arranging.

Yeah creating a lineup was the most difficult part for me. Drafted several clean-up hitters so had to shuffle them around for the lineup.

[dashcol]

Man, what a team when Fred Lynn is on your bench!

[Hollywood42]

This is a tough division, all of these teams are really good

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

This is a tough division, all of these teams are really good

You're right this is going to end up being a very interesting race to watch.

[7jacfire]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

This is a tough division, all of these teams are really good

Just like the real life NL East (minus the Marlins).

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by 7jacfire

Just like the real life NL East (minus the Marlins).

Even the Marlins are tough in my opinion.

[7jacfire]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Even the Marlins are tough in my opinion.

Yeah this Marlins team is solid. I'm talking about the real life Marlins team, which is the only bad team in the division.

[Hollywood42]

Poll closes at 9:15am CST tomorrow