Ebay may be required to post full information about sellers on listings

shrevecity · 12-29-2022, 03:05 PM

https://www.eseller365.com/ebay-etsy...spending-bill/

longhornjunkie · 12-29-2022, 03:26 PM

I'm sure eBay will raise fees to cover reprogramming of their site as well.

cholodolo · 12-29-2022, 03:54 PM

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the language in the bill continually refers to High-Volume Sellers. The bill defines such sellers as having at least 200 or more discrete transactions, totaling $5,000 or more in gross revenues over any continuous 12-month period during the previous 24 months.

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Individuals that are high-volume sellers will only need to provide their name. However, sellers that are not individuals (businesses) must provide a valid personal government ID on behalf of the seller (business) or provide a valid government-issued record or tax document that includes the business name and physical address.

More transparency is always good.

KhalDrogo · 12-30-2022, 07:05 AM

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Sellers with more than $20,000 in annual gross revenues will have their contact information displayed on each listing OR in an order confirmation message or document after the purchase. This information includes:
The full name of the individual seller or company name
The physical address of the seller
Contact information for direct and unhindered communication between seller and buyer, which can be an email address, phone number, or a platform-provided messaging system.

The only change for eBay here would be you get the first two pieces of info when you make the purchase rather than when the package arrives. And I guess you’d not be deprived of this info on AG program buys.

Bosoxfan5990 · 12-30-2022, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The only change for eBay here would be you get the first two pieces of info when you make the purchase rather than when the package arrives. And I guess you’d not be deprived of this info on AG program buys.

Sellers also already get buyer information as soon as buyer makes a purchase.

shrevecity · 12-30-2022, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The only change for eBay here would be you get the first two pieces of info when you make the purchase rather than when the package arrives. And I guess you’d not be deprived of this info on AG program buys.

The part before the OR is where the concern is. Will it be shown in the actual listing. That could create alot of concern and issues. If it's after purchase that's really no change from what it was a few years back at one point you could bid on an item then pull contact information of the seller and get all that.

cruiserdaddy7 · 12-30-2022, 10:26 AM

I'd be concerned someone would come to my home and steal items I have posted for sale. You are basically then advertising the contents of your home and where to come and get them. Seems a bit dangerous.

shrevecity · 12-30-2022, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Sellers also already get buyer information as soon as buyer makes a purchase.

That's kind of necessary

shrevecity · 12-30-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

I'd be concerned someone would come to my home and steal items I have posted for sale. You are basically then advertising the contents of your home and where to come and get them. Seems a bit dangerous.

This is one of a few concerns. That's where 2 large dogs an Ar-15 and a few other guns come into play.

Hopefully they won't be that crazy with it the bill was signed into law. We just have to see how it gets implemented

DynaEtch · 12-30-2022, 10:51 AM

Email and phone on this listing? The amount of direct deals off ebay will skyrocket if that's the case I have to imagine.

Also this seems so unnecessary, and comes with a lot of concerns for personal home business type sellers (not the huge business sellers like COMC). Seems like a disaster in the making. Great job Congress if this passes, smh.

longhornjunkie · 12-30-2022, 10:51 AM

When a deal is made obviously info is exchanged between parties.

My concern here is having all my info publicly available 24/7 on eBay listings. I'm a private individual, not a brick and mortar business looking for people to drop by.
Maybe I'm missing something.

cruiserdaddy7 · 12-30-2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by longhornjunkie

When a deal is made obviously info is exchanged between parties.

My concern here is having all my info publicly available 24/7 on eBay listings. I'm a private individual, not a brick and mortar business looking for people to drop by.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Imagine all the spammers and also identity thieves having full names and addresses and phone info?

This fits the narrative of certain administrations. They make it tougher on law abiding citizens and easier on the criminals.

cholodolo · 12-30-2022, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by longhornjunkie

When a deal is made obviously info is exchanged between parties.

My concern here is having all my info publicly available 24/7 on eBay listings. I'm a private individual, not a brick and mortar business looking for people to drop by.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Are you selling as a business or individual?

My understanding is individuals would only have their first and last name displayed on the listing and the address would be revealed as the package arrives.

Maybe create a fictitious business name if you sell in large quantities.

shrevecity · 12-30-2022, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cholodolo

Are you selling as a business or individual?

My understanding is individuals would only have their first and last name displayed on the listing and the address would be revealed as the package arrives.

Maybe create a fictitious business name if you sell in large quantities.

Nobody knows for sure what this will require. What we know is just speculation. Until it's finalized anything could happen

cholodolo · 12-30-2022, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

Nobody knows for sure what this will require. What we know is just speculation. Until it's finalized anything could happen

The bit about individuals providing their name and emphasis on "high-volume sellers" is from the text of the bill.

Not really speculation. Would make sense for others concerned to begin looking into alternatives.

Link: https://www.eseller365.com/wp-conten...nding-Bill.pdf

LRV · 12-30-2022, 11:02 PM

Really not a problem at all. First things required Ebay already has from you:

Bank Account Info (They already have this with managed payments)
TIN / SS# (They already have this if you've received a 1099-K in the past)
Email Address (They send you emails already)
Phone Number (Get a second cell number just for Ebay if you don't have a business number)

Your name & address will only be listed in the order emails sent to buyers, NOT shown in your listings. That was part of the original bill which Ebay fought to change.

Again, easy to get around if you want. Use a PO Box as your business / return address as that is what will be sent to buyers. Another part of the law is if you don't have an actual storefront & your "business" address is your home, then only your state & US will be shown.

jamcas997 · 12-31-2022, 09:55 AM

What bozo on the Hill proposed this bill !?

paparoke · 01-04-2023, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jamcas997

What bozo on the Hill proposed this bill !?

Somebody in the pockets of big retailers, nothing new in our government. Bought and paid for.

Cubby5454 · 01-09-2023, 04:40 PM

Did Ebay already start doing this for UK sellers?
Maybe I missed it in the past, but I was just looking at a listing from a seller in the UK and it had all their info toward the bottom of the listing page- name, address, phone number, e-mail, VAT number.
I don't know how I feel about that, but my initial thought is I don't like it.

shrevecity · 01-09-2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubby5454

Did Ebay already start doing this for UK sellers?
Maybe I missed it in the past, but I was just looking at a listing from a seller in the UK and it had all their info toward the bottom of the listing page- name, address, phone number, e-mail, VAT number.
I don't know how I feel about that, but my initial thought is I don't like it.

It is required in there.

Cubby5454 · 01-11-2023, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shrevecity

It is required in there.

I think that's crazy.

So for you sellers in the UK- have people been calling or e-mailing you to deals outside of Ebay for items you have listed?
Or has anyone just shown up to your listed address hoping you will sell items to them there?

I would think Ebay would not want this sort of thing going on.

12-29-2022, 03:05 PM	#1
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	Ebay may be required to post full information about sellers on listings https://www.eseller365.com/ebay-etsy...spending-bill/

12-29-2022, 03:26 PM	#2
longhornjunkie Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 4,667 longhornjunkie	I'm sure eBay will raise fees to cover reprogramming of their site as well. __________________ Collecting Longhorns RCs 1999-2005 FB/BKB https://sites.google.com/view/longhornjunkie/home Running Card Show (Cards FS) - http://bit.ly/longhornjunkie

12-30-2022, 10:26 AM	#7
cruiserdaddy7 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15,602 Cruiserdaddy7	I'd be concerned someone would come to my home and steal items I have posted for sale. You are basically then advertising the contents of your home and where to come and get them. Seems a bit dangerous. __________________ Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.

12-30-2022, 10:51 AM	#10
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,836	Email and phone on this listing? The amount of direct deals off ebay will skyrocket if that's the case I have to imagine. Also this seems so unnecessary, and comes with a lot of concerns for personal home business type sellers (not the huge business sellers like COMC). Seems like a disaster in the making. Great job Congress if this passes, smh. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

12-30-2022, 10:51 AM	#11
longhornjunkie Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 4,667 longhornjunkie	When a deal is made obviously info is exchanged between parties. My concern here is having all my info publicly available 24/7 on eBay listings. I'm a private individual, not a brick and mortar business looking for people to drop by. Maybe I'm missing something. __________________ Collecting Longhorns RCs 1999-2005 FB/BKB https://sites.google.com/view/longhornjunkie/home Running Card Show (Cards FS) - http://bit.ly/longhornjunkie

12-30-2022, 11:02 PM	#16
LRV Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Where I'm At Posts: 6,028	Really not a problem at all. First things required Ebay already has from you: Bank Account Info (They already have this with managed payments) TIN / SS# (They already have this if you've received a 1099-K in the past) Email Address (They send you emails already) Phone Number (Get a second cell number just for Ebay if you don't have a business number) Your name & address will only be listed in the order emails sent to buyers, NOT shown in your listings. That was part of the original bill which Ebay fought to change. Again, easy to get around if you want. Use a PO Box as your business / return address as that is what will be sent to buyers. Another part of the law is if you don't have an actual storefront & your "business" address is your home, then only your state & US will be shown. __________________ "How much sleep do you need to go play three hours?" - Ken Stabler ROLL TIDE ROLL!

12-31-2022, 09:55 AM	#17
jamcas997 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 5,700	What bozo on the Hill proposed this bill !?

01-09-2023, 04:40 PM	#19
Cubby5454 Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: North Carolina Posts: 932 cubby5454	Did Ebay already start doing this for UK sellers? Maybe I missed it in the past, but I was just looking at a listing from a seller in the UK and it had all their info toward the bottom of the listing page- name, address, phone number, e-mail, VAT number. I don't know how I feel about that, but my initial thought is I don't like it.