Hold or Sell: Noah Syndergaard

thegreathambino · 02-25-2014, 11:26 AM

Syndergaard's prices all obviously at an all time high right now. Is it time to sell?

Looking for opinions!

Avery

WCTYSON · 02-25-2014, 11:40 AM

Sell IMO.

High walk rates, combined with a 6'6" frame. Looking at history, very few pitchers at that size have success. He is just too large to repeat his delivery with any expectation to lower his walks. Over ranked among the top 50 prospects IMO.

WCTYSON · 02-25-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WCTYSON

Sell IMO.

High walk rates, combined with a 6'6" frame. Looking at history, very few pitchers at that size have success. He is just too large to repeat his delivery with any expectation to lower his walks. Over ranked among the top 50 prospects IMO.

Scratch that, I was not looking at the correct numbers in regard to his walk rate. His size is still an issue to me though and at current prices, I would not hold.

mangia1976 · 02-25-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thegreathambino

Syndergaard's prices all obviously at an all time high right now. Is it time to sell?

Looking for opinions!

Avery

Dude's a beast- his height is to his advantage..some of the top SP prospects, Giolito, Stephenson, i believe are all in the 6'4"+ range.

Power thrower, tons of K's. From what i recall last season (w/o looking it up), he only had one poor game where he got rocked. And unfortunaly it was his last regular season game. Possibly just tired from a long season.

I'd certainly hold. I know i am.

lazygambler · 02-25-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WCTYSON

Scratch that, I was not looking at the correct numbers in regard to his walk rate. His size is still an issue to me though and at current prices, I would not hold.

What about Wacha, Randy Johnson, and Lance Lynn?

hagausaf · 02-25-2014, 12:46 PM

Def a keeper for me right now. With the NY market backing him his cards have room to grow with another great season

ctbinvestments · 02-25-2014, 02:21 PM

At current prices I'd be selling and buying twice as many Giolito's. What would he have to do to substain a $60 value in the majors? I understand the NY market has a factor but Wheeler was regarded as a better pitcher and his don't bring that much anymore and he's not Matt Harvey (when healthy). I don't see a huge window for upside here. Giolito can be a top 10 overall prospect next year and double from current values. I just don't see the same for Syndergaard.

Nickclark1988 · 02-25-2014, 02:52 PM

I wouldn't sell at this point. Believe me I'm a huge mets fan and I live in New York. Everyone around here loves this kid. Why not wait till he hits big leagues? I wouldn't be worried about a bad spring training. There going to give this kid every chance to get to the bigs.

jake312 · 02-25-2014, 02:55 PM

Im keepin!

tajikey · 02-25-2014, 03:16 PM

I just listed the only Syndergaard I own...could use the cash toward a nice Zunino or two.

hagausaf · 02-25-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ctbinvestments

I understand the NY market has a factor but Wheeler was regarded as a better pitcher and his don't bring that much anymore

Wheeler is no longer considered a prospect so naturally that kills values unless he pulls a CY season this year. Syndergaard prices can and will certainly bloat more with another dominant year as the hype train is in full steam. I think he'll surprise and become a serious contender for best pitcher in the minors. However I do agree that Lucas is a better investment right now

freddyb · 02-25-2014, 03:51 PM

HOLD- he is in NY and the minute he gets called up, before he even throws a pitch, there will be a bump

ctbinvestments · 02-25-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyb

HOLD- he is in NY and the minute he gets called up, before he even throws a pitch, there will be a bump

SELL- he is in NY and the minute he gets called up, after he throws a pitch, value will be cut in half if he loses or doesn't throw a shutout.

EDIT: Out of all of the pitchers who have been called up over the years...How many have actually "gained value" from when they were a top prospect in the minors vs. how many have declined. You can probably count on 1 hand how many have increased. Play the odds and sell if you can make a profit now.

IndySportsCards · 02-25-2014, 04:01 PM

If you're not a fan, SELL NOW..

mangia1976 · 02-25-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

I just listed the only Syndergaard I own...could use the cash toward a nice Zunino or two.

Haha, that's a good one. Oh wait, you're serious?!? Is it auto'd? If so I'll gladly trade you every Zunino i own for your last Syndy!

tajikey · 02-25-2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mangia1976

Haha, that's a good one. Oh wait, you're serious?!? Is it auto'd? If so I'll gladly trade you every Zunino i own for your last Syndy!

Unfortunately it is not, but fortunately, it's numbered to 5, so hopefully I get a bite or two (I inflated the price to see what kind of offers I get). And I assume you're laughing because what kind of fool would trade a low-numbered Syndergaard for anything Zunino. Well, my friend, I am a Mariner fan, and my favorite player happens to be Zunino.

ctbinvestments · 02-25-2014, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tajikey

Unfortunately it is not, but fortunately, it's numbered to 5, so hopefully I get a bite or two (I inflated the price to see what kind of offers I get). And I assume you're laughing because what kind of fool would trade a low-numbered Syndergaard for anything Zunino. Well, my friend, I am a Mariner fan, and my favorite player happens to be Zunino.

That's all that matters...if you're a fan I understand completely. If Needchapmans liked Syndergaard you could probably get some real nice Zuninos for it.

tajikey · 02-25-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ctbinvestments

That's all that matters...if you're a fan I understand completely. If Needchapmans liked Syndergaard you could probably get some real nice Zuninos for it.

Ha ha ha...ain't that the truth!

tigers3735 · 02-25-2014, 06:05 PM

I would hold. Maybe would sell around the time he gets called up

knicksguy86 · 02-25-2014, 06:11 PM

I'm a fan so I'm keeping my chrome autos..
Selling the sterling though. Every year I saw the same thing about sterling " why do I do buy this" LOL

jbmets95 · 02-25-2014, 06:11 PM

100% correct

If i wasnt a huge mets fan (hence my username) i would sell all my Syndy's

He is definitley getting a lot of hype

Adam Rubin the mets pr guy and twitter guy is so funny abt syndy

More Noah Syndergaard stalking: pic.twitter.com/eB2NpFXvbC

Tried an artsy shot of Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz watching Noah Syndergaard. Think I pulled it off: pic.twitter.com/QoOXBBpKVE

Anyway, I had two refrac autos /500 and have sold one

I am selling like 25% and keeping the rest just b/c im a mets fan

Lets not forgot in the RA Dickey trade D'arnaud was the main piece but Syndy has a sick year last year

I think D'arnaud prices can rise A LOT

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If you're not a fan, SELL NOW..

centereacan06 · 02-25-2014, 06:23 PM

Hold at least until he gets called up, which should be this season. I don't see him imploding in the minors or anything that will cause his prices to drop significantly.

jbmets95 · 03-03-2014, 03:10 PM

Loved what i say again today!!!

MiamiDolfan007 · 03-03-2014, 04:02 PM

I'm selling now without hesitation

Wrightfan85 · 03-03-2014, 04:55 PM

Hold absolutely. Earliest I would sell would be when he gets called up but being a Mets home, I would possibly wait until next year.

By the way, Adam Rubin is a beat reporter not the PR guy.

02-25-2014, 11:26 AM	#1
thegreathambino Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,108	Hold or Sell: Noah Syndergaard Syndergaard's prices all obviously at an all time high right now. Is it time to sell? Looking for opinions! Avery

02-25-2014, 12:46 PM	#6
hagausaf Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,268 hagausaf	Def a keeper for me right now. With the NY market backing him his cards have room to grow with another great season __________________ Selling everything. PM me who you want and Ill send you a list and prices

02-25-2014, 02:21 PM	#7
ctbinvestments Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 6,504 ctbinvestments	At current prices I'd be selling and buying twice as many Giolito's. What would he have to do to substain a $60 value in the majors? I understand the NY market has a factor but Wheeler was regarded as a better pitcher and his don't bring that much anymore and he's not Matt Harvey (when healthy). I don't see a huge window for upside here. Giolito can be a top 10 overall prospect next year and double from current values. I just don't see the same for Syndergaard. __________________ My basics about prospecting: "The higher draft pick isn't always the best player" & "Don't buy the hype, buy the results"

02-25-2014, 02:52 PM	#8
Nickclark1988 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 652 nickclark1988	I wouldn't sell at this point. Believe me I'm a huge mets fan and I live in New York. Everyone around here loves this kid. Why not wait till he hits big leagues? I wouldn't be worried about a bad spring training. There going to give this kid every chance to get to the bigs. __________________ COLLECTING: David Wright 2002 Bowman Chrome Autos! PM ME About Availability!

02-25-2014, 02:55 PM	#9
jake312 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New York Posts: 2,745	Im keepin! __________________ Collecting: Jose Fernandez & Rookie Card Autos

02-25-2014, 11:40 AM	#2
WCTYSON Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 16,597	Sell IMO. High walk rates, combined with a 6'6" frame. Looking at history, very few pitchers at that size have success. He is just too large to repeat his delivery with any expectation to lower his walks. Over ranked among the top 50 prospects IMO.

02-25-2014, 03:16 PM	#10
tajikey Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Exeter, CA Posts: 13,203 tajikey tajikey	I just listed the only Syndergaard I own...could use the cash toward a nice Zunino or two.

02-25-2014, 03:51 PM	#12
freddyb Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 3,270 ewok_baseball ewok_schultz	HOLD- he is in NY and the minute he gets called up, before he even throws a pitch, there will be a bump __________________ "Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones, but you still have to choose"-- The Doctor http://s916.photobucket.com/user/ewok_schultz/library/?sort=3&page=0

02-25-2014, 04:01 PM	#14
IndySportsCards Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: EO 13848 Posts: 42,013 braco0 IndySportsCards	If you're not a fan, SELL NOW.. __________________ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

02-25-2014, 06:05 PM	#19
tigers3735 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 372	I would hold. Maybe would sell around the time he gets called up __________________ Collecting: Jose Fernandez and Nick Castellanos!

02-25-2014, 06:11 PM	#20
knicksguy86 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 898	I'm a fan so I'm keeping my chrome autos.. Selling the sterling though. Every year I saw the same thing about sterling " why do I do buy this" LOL __________________ Collecting Mets Prospects.

02-25-2014, 06:23 PM	#22
centereacan06 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 19,502 centereacan06 centereacan06	Hold at least until he gets called up, which should be this season. I don't see him imploding in the minors or anything that will cause his prices to drop significantly.

03-03-2014, 03:10 PM	#23
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03-03-2014, 04:02 PM	#24
MiamiDolfan007 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 810	I'm selling now without hesitation

03-03-2014, 04:55 PM	#25
Wrightfan85 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NY Posts: 3,468 HOFpostcardcollector Wrightfan85	Hold absolutely. Earliest I would sell would be when he gets called up but being a Mets home, I would possibly wait until next year. By the way, Adam Rubin is a beat reporter not the PR guy.