Brent Huigens & PWCC Used pwcc_auctions ID to Buy Cards for Gary Moser to Trim/Alter - Page 38

Saraste · 06-21-2019, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

100k views on this thread! Let's celebrate with another hilarious video about #SlabGate.

That laugh!!!

dfr52 · 06-21-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarbabies

It's the same card …….but the PSA 4.5 doesn't look much better than the SGC 2.

I agree, just based on the scan looks like it was just graded higher by PSA.

Hatorade · 06-21-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dfr52

I agree, just based on the scan looks like it was just graded higher by PSA.

Are you able to come to this decision without seeing a serial number?

dfr52 · 06-21-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatorade

Are you able to come to this decision without seeing a serial number?

Yep, plenty of matching areas on the front and back of both cards.

superdan49 · 06-22-2019, 12:26 PM

Ha, was searching for someone else's tweet, found this:

KhalDrogo · 06-22-2019, 12:31 PM

That’s hilariously true.

superdan49 · 06-22-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That’s hilariously true.

The guy was just confused and looking for clarification. Psalm 8:2

mjohnatgt · 06-22-2019, 12:38 PM

Just a little conservation here or there and they could be. ;-)

ThoseBackPages · 06-22-2019, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

Ha, was searching for someone else's tweet, found this:

HarryLime · 06-22-2019, 06:49 PM

That, right there, gentlemen, is t-shirt material. Bravo!

Arthur

HarryLime · 06-22-2019, 06:54 PM

I just straight went to that guy's tweet and liked it and retweeted, This Bud's for you, Bobby Cap!

Arthur

Bruins1993 · 06-23-2019, 06:08 PM

Can someone explain "String Bidding"

mjohnatgt · 06-23-2019, 06:45 PM

Bid is at $50. You bid $103.5, and eBay says you have been outbid and the new price is $104.12. Minimum increment at that stage is like $2.50. Since high bid is less than $2.50 more than yours, you've exposed the high bid without taking it.

signed79 · 06-23-2019, 06:52 PM

"string bidding" is a term Brent coined when the buyer's club was discovered.

3124508 on COMC · 06-23-2019, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by signed79

"string bidding" is a term Brent coined when the buyer's club was discovered.

And "conservation" is a term he coined when the trimmer's club was discovered.

pspa123 · 06-23-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by signed79

"string bidding" is a term Brent coined when the buyer's club was discovered.

Let's not forget "market pushing" as a euphemism for market manipulation.

mattglet · 06-24-2019, 07:40 AM

Bump to page 1.

Playball · 06-24-2019, 09:58 AM

"The only CRIME against it.
https://youtu.be/JttSOH64lC4

Bruins1993 · 06-24-2019, 12:54 PM

Can someone please give a summary (or direct me to one) of exactly what eBay did as far as timeframe cutting the feed to bidder ID's/masked bidder ID's on sales tracking web-sites, just as all this was being uncovered?

The timing seems like a smoking gun that eBay is trying to help hide possible criminal behavior and bury it under the rug from what I have briefly read.

Back in 2013 when other card "alterations" were brought to light eBay quickly made changes to further mask bidder ID's in the feedback (by removing the number count) from what I recall taking away the ability to "match" a buyer ID to previous auction purchase and also a card in some cases before it was altered.

Thanks!

mattglet · 06-24-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins1993

Can someone please give a summary (or direct me to one) of exactly what eBay did as far as timeframe cutting the feed to bidder ID's/masked bidder ID's on sales tracking web-sites, just as all this was being uncovered?

The timing seems like a smoking gun that eBay is trying to help hide possible criminal behavior and bury it under the rug from what I have briefly read.

Back in 2013 when other card "alterations" were brought to light eBay quickly made changes to further mask bidder ID's in the feedback (by removing the number count) from what I recall taking away the ability to "match" a buyer ID to previous auction purchase and also a card in some cases before it was altered.

Thanks!

One might find it easier to believe that ebay did *not* in fact cut a feed.

unclemonkey · 06-24-2019, 01:55 PM

Oh my...

I go away for a couple weeks and the proverbial Shate hit the fan.

I didn't even get past the first page!

Bruins1993 · 06-24-2019, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

One might find it easier to believe that ebay did *not* in fact cut a feed.

Oh really?

I found something on this (05-28-2019, 01:33 PM):
http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=158

QUOTED:

"BobbyVCP
Bobby Binder

VCP has been in business for 12 years now this month...and in that 12 years our eBay feed has been cut off 2 times.

We did not receive any email or letter from eBay telling us it was going to happen if we did not comply. We were working as usual and lost connectivity, and after doing all our trouble shooting found out it was the API feed not returning the calls.

11 years ago they turned off our API we called and they told us we needed to contact Terapeak and start paying for a license in order to post the data. We called Terapeak made a payment and they called eBay and our API was then turned back on again.

Yesterday again the same thing happening, while working we lost connection to eBay. So after trouble shooting we contacted eBay, was told that we had been flagged for a API data violation of posting buyer information. And it needed to be removed in order for our API to be restored. We removed the information and called them and an hour later our API was working again.

I wish I had more to show you but that is all I have...
__________________
Bobby Binder
www.vintagecardprices.com"

Pretty interesting...

mattglet · 06-24-2019, 02:48 PM

Yes, really.

I and plenty of others have already read that thread. I can only speculate, but there is a smell that goes along with that whole thing.

signed79 · 06-24-2019, 02:59 PM

It's possible PWCC and/or Moser complained to Terapeak and Terapeak decided to err on the side of caution (like many companies in similar situations) and pull the info until someone (possibly VCP) contacted them to say they have permission from eBay to use the data.

Bruins1993 · 06-24-2019, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by signed79

It's possible PWCC and/or Moser complained to Terapeak and Terapeak decided to err on the side of caution (like many companies in similar situations) and pull the info until someone (possibly VCP) contacted them to say they have permission from eBay to use the data.

I would not be surprised if they made a request straight to eBay to have the information shielded...

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mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,736 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Just a little conservation here or there and they could be. ;-)

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HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	That, right there, gentlemen, is t-shirt material. Bravo! Arthur

06-22-2019, 06:54 PM	#936
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	I just straight went to that guy's tweet and liked it and retweeted, This Bud's for you, Bobby Cap! Arthur

06-23-2019, 06:45 PM	#938
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,736 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Bid is at $50. You bid $103.5, and eBay says you have been outbid and the new price is $104.12. Minimum increment at that stage is like $2.50. Since high bid is less than $2.50 more than yours, you've exposed the high bid without taking it.

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signed79 Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 513	"string bidding" is a term Brent coined when the buyer's club was discovered.

06-24-2019, 12:54 PM	#944
Bruins1993 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Stuck inside of Mobile Posts: 1,291	Can someone please give a summary (or direct me to one) of exactly what eBay did as far as timeframe cutting the feed to bidder ID's/masked bidder ID's on sales tracking web-sites, just as all this was being uncovered? The timing seems like a smoking gun that eBay is trying to help hide possible criminal behavior and bury it under the rug from what I have briefly read. Back in 2013 when other card "alterations" were brought to light eBay quickly made changes to further mask bidder ID's in the feedback (by removing the number count) from what I recall taking away the ability to "match" a buyer ID to previous auction purchase and also a card in some cases before it was altered. Thanks! Last edited by Bruins1993; 06-24-2019 at 01:01 PM.

06-24-2019, 01:55 PM	#946
unclemonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 4,989	Oh my... I go away for a couple weeks and the proverbial Shate hit the fan. I didn't even get past the first page!

06-24-2019, 02:48 PM	#948
mattglet Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 4,358	Yes, really. I and plenty of others have already read that thread. I can only speculate, but there is a smell that goes along with that whole thing. __________________ Creator of ListingAlarm - get instantly notified when a card you're looking for is listed on eBay! https://www.listingalarm.com Collecting Riley Pint - www.RileyPint.com Total owned: 77%, 1/1s: 71

06-24-2019, 02:59 PM	#949
signed79 Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 513	It's possible PWCC and/or Moser complained to Terapeak and Terapeak decided to err on the side of caution (like many companies in similar situations) and pull the info until someone (possibly VCP) contacted them to say they have permission from eBay to use the data.