NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward?

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by grade

i think many rappers, sports players are taking advice from their money managers.
Might be good for Top Shot.

All the money being poured in doesn't mean a thing if you can't figure out the kinks and take this mainstream. The name you should be focusing on is Paul Tudor Jones, not LL Cool J.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Surely sarcasm, no? Hard to tell anymore

I'm outta of Dapper but yes, I was being sarcastic about going into Dogecoin. Then again, worst case scenario I lose it all which amounts to $20 or I turn the $500 I have in Dapper into thousands in Dogecoin.

[grade]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

All the money being poured in doesn't mean a thing if you can't figure out the kinks and take this mainstream. The name you should be focusing on is Paul Tudor Jones, not LL Cool J.

They should be focusing on this guy

[gamboooler]

Anyone interested in trading moments for any of this? Listed roughly what I'd be looking for value wise in return. PM if you want to discuss anything.

Bam Adebayo 2017 Prizm RC - $35
Bam Adebayo 2017 Optic RC - $20
Buddy Hield 2016 Prizm RC - $12
Domantas Sabonis 2016 Prizm RC - $50
Jayson Tatum 2017 Prizm Emergent - $20
LeBron James 2006 Topps Triple Threads Sepia /299 - $150
LeBron James 2016 Panini Studio Defying Gravity - $40

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by grade

They should be focusing on this guy

lol, you have no idea who Paul Tudor Jones is do you?

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

lol, you have no idea who Paul Tudor Jones is do you?

I haven't been following this thread much lately, but he's the source of one of my favorite investment quotes:

"Don't be a hero. Don't have an ego. Always question yourself and your ability. Don't ever feel that you are very good. The second you do, you are dead."

[grade]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

lol, you have no idea who Paul Tudor Jones is do you?

Do you? call him to post here. LOL.

Be proud of yourself and what you accomplish in life, not reading names in a article.

Tudor does nothing for me. I rather know the guy that works at Target that can actually benefit me.

[rifleman69]

Originally Posted by grade

Do you? call him to post here. LOL.

Be proud of yourself and what you accomplish in life. Not reading names in a article.

Tudor does nothing for me. I rather know the guy that works at Target that can actually benefit me.

But LL Cool J does something for you? I mean you brought up his name within the last 10 posts in this very thread. I know it's tough to keep your story straight but man, not even 6 hours has past! Does Ladies Love Cool James mean as much as the Target employee?

[brock]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

But LL Cool J does something for you? I mean you brought up his name within the last 10 posts in this very thread. I know it's tough to keep your story straight but man, not even 6 hours has past! Does Ladies Love Cool James mean as much as the Target employee?

Quit thinking so much.

This is just two Pokemon cards

-grade, probably


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[Jopeal]

I heard PTJ is taking on the winner of LP v Mayweather.

Stay woke on tiktok

[grade]

Originally Posted by rifleman69

But LL Cool J does something for you? I mean you brought up his name within the last 10 posts in this very thread. I know it's tough to keep your story straight but man, not even 6 hours has past! Does Ladies Love Cool James mean as much as the Target employee?

Look back. you mentioned LL cool J. i said "rapper".


If you cannot risk $100 in anything. You should go back and read your idol tudor books, cause he is willing to risk money .


Get your ducks in a row. LOL

[Howie7107]

Gotta think there’s a pretty massive pullback yet to happen at this point? Now 6K Market Sellers to 4.5K Market Buyers and the gap is widening. Not to mention 1 of the sellers, Pranksy, who was supposedly all in on this project in his interview last week, is liquidating a massive number of moments basically daily at this point. Safe to say TS probably ran off some people who are much needed in the market now with their site being a mess last week. I shall patiently wait with my dapper balance and hope one day I can withdraw it.

[Jamesebee]

Names, icons, payment platforms, UX, sales figures, or business models-these alone do not always equate into universal trust. It's precisely why there's a question mark in this thread's title: we can continue to be skeptical of the inevitable outcomes because we cannot see how TopShot ultimately scales. And that's okay, I think!

Here is a model that has had over a year of beta to evaluate risks and rewards. All of the recent history is on the table in this thread and elsewhere, and the emergent rise in sports card "collecting"/"investing"/speculating is going to bring a lot of different people into the fold. Like others have said, the onus is on TopShot to figure it out. I bet that sales metric gives them the edge to buy some more time/bandwidth.

There are some things I personally like, and some things I don't like. It's basically analogous to most everything the physical card companies (and similar platforms like ePack) have experienced for years.

I'm not sure I like-a the juice enough to look past my own blockers. I'd still advocate for a more fair royalty plan that gave persistent financial credit upon secondary market sale to some of the original athletes or in-game production staff (think TV syndication). Curious to hear from others whether that's a reasonable expectation, or if I'm out of my gourd...

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

Gotta think there’s a pretty massive pullback yet to happen at this point? Now 6K Market Sellers to 4.5K Market Buyers and the gap is widening. Not to mention 1 of the sellers, Pranksy, who was supposedly all in on this project in his interview last week, is liquidating a massive number of moments basically daily at this point. Safe to say TS probably ran off some people who are much needed in the market now with their site being a mess last week. I shall patiently wait with my dapper balance and hope one day I can withdraw it.

Tough to really say, there were over 15,000 people on discord just prior to the break and the que line was in the 60,000's and potentially higher. Prior to the pack drop there were over +500 buyers. The last pack drop had the same numbers and then a large increase in sellers afterwards. This could have a lot to do with the pack drops in general. Some people have already made up their mind on what they want to do. Some are selling, some are staying. Luckily I can do both.

I posted a few extra of my Series 2 Moments and 2/3 of them already sold.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Jamesebee

Names, icons, payment platforms, UX, sales figures, or business models-these alone do not always equate into universal trust. It's precisely why there's a question mark in this thread's title: we can continue to be skeptical of the inevitable outcomes because we cannot see how TopShot ultimately scales. And that's okay, I think!

Here is a model that has had over a year of beta to evaluate risks and rewards. All of the recent history is on the table in this thread and elsewhere, and the emergent rise in sports card "collecting"/"investing"/speculating is going to bring a lot of different people into the fold. Like others have said, the onus is on TopShot to figure it out. I bet that sales metric gives them the edge to buy some more time/bandwidth.

There are some things I personally like, and some things I don't like. It's basically analogous to most everything the physical card companies (and similar platforms like ePack) have experienced for years.

I'm not sure I like-a the juice enough to look past my own blockers. I'd still advocate for a more fair royalty plan that gave persistent financial credit upon secondary market sale to some of the original athletes or in-game production staff (think TV syndication). Curious to hear from others whether that's a reasonable expectation, or if I'm out of my gourd...

I hope we see some type of plan like that for the old school NBA players. Right now a portion of the transaction fees go to the NBPA. I'm all about grabbing a Tim Hardaway cross-over or Kareem skyhook.

[ninjacookies]

Got a desktop noti on a S2R12 pack drop tonight. Signed up and was already 16,xxxth in line.


Here's to another 20 minutes of LE spinning loading gifs to pull a Sekou bench celebration /25,000.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Howie7107

Gotta think there’s a pretty massive pullback yet to happen at this point? Now 6K Market Sellers to 4.5K Market Buyers and the gap is widening. .

So I just checked my port value and it's actually 10% higher than it was prior to the pack drop yesterday. I was concerned but they might actually have this que thing done right.

[Jamesebee]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I hope we see some type of plan like that for the old school NBA players. Right now a portion of the transaction fees go to the NBPA. I'm all about grabbing a Tim Hardaway cross-over or Kareem skyhook.

Emphasis added - and I agree. I think it would be awesome to see historical playoff, Conference, and Finals-game highlights with persistent "charity" allocations on the secondary market (every time it switched owners, a reserve donation (flat or scaled) would go to the NBA Foundation.

It's also entirely reasonable that there's some layer of contractual forfeiture for NBA employees making a tangible profit off of a game highlight. That's okay. It just feels a little lacking-establishing a well-constructed plan to repurpose these moments is going to have immense volume for the next wave of releases.

[MKCO]

I just got an email for a $999 satchel of gifs being offered tomorrow.

[ninjacookies]

All in on my Robin Lopez super iconoclast Legends of the Fall platinum holo fadeaway hook shot /99.




















I've dropped a rack on stupider ish down in Tijuana.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by MKCO

I just got an email for a $999 satchel of gifs being offered tomorrow.

Jeezus....$999....for a Holo Icon Pack

1 Deck the Hoops /99
3 Metallic Gold LE /499
6 Commons /15,000-

I like their player selection as it's balanced between stars and young guys. I would imagine Deck the Hoops Series 1 already has LeBron and Luka. I'm not a fan of the price at all.

Here is the checklist and full list of what will be inserted

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...InuuGIj794BKw#


Deck the Hoops (Series 2) /99

1. Marcus Smart converts a steal into a fastbreak
2. Gordon Hayward splits the Magic defense
3. Coby White absorbs contact for a bucket
4. Andre Drummond gets an easy dunk
5. Tim Hardaway Jr. drives and scores
6. Jerami Grant throws down massive put-back
   
7. Steph Curry hits quick release corner three
8. Victor Oladipo finishes extended reverse layup
9. T.J. Warren spins his way to an easy bucket
   
10. Kawhi Leonard hits pull up jumper at buzzer
    
11. Anthony Davis pivots into a fadeaway
12. Kyle Anderson hits a gap for reverse layup
13. Tyler Herro loses defender with pass fake
14. Jrue Holiday creates space for a three
15. Malik Beasley finishes in transition
16. Brandon Ingram drives for a one-handed slam
17. Mitchell Robinson throws down a alob
18. Luguentz Dort hits a nice reverse layup
19. Aaron Gordon soars for a two-handed slam
20. Tobias Harris finds Tyrese Maxey for an alley-oop
21. Deandre Ayton finishes an alley-oop from Chris Paul
22. Carmelo Anthony hits a fadeaway
23. Buddy Hield hits contested three
24. Dejounte Murray side-steps into a jumper
25. Kyle Lowry creates space for a deep two
26. Rudy Gobert denies a drive attempt
    
27. Russell Westbrook goes backdoor on the Magic

[boxbuster7]

Anyone know if you can adjust a price once you list a moment for sale? Can't seem to find out how to do this and it should be real easy

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Anyone know if you can adjust a price once you list a moment for sale? Can't seem to find out how to do this and it should be real easy

Just pull the listing, then relist it with the right price.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Just pull the listing, then relist it with the right price.

Thanks - left a tab open for like 2 hours for a pack of Daniel Theis, Khem Birch, and De'anthony melton

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Thanks - left a tab open for like 2 hours for a pack of Daniel Theis, Khem Birch, and De'anthony melton

Ha, I missed my window to buy. It expired. The pack tomorrow is only $999 though.