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Old 03-21-2024, 02:34 PM   #476
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Seems like this is kind of a big story. Unless you look at the current MLB.com and ESPN sites...

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Old 03-21-2024, 02:38 PM   #477
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Someone needs to post a video of the celebrity throwing the first pitch in the series to lighten the mood here.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:39 PM   #478
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I have NO Ohtani cards (sold my Transcendent RC late last year) and I 100% believe he gambled and his interpreter is taking the fall.
Remember, Cris Carter said always have a fall guy.

Ohtani had one that spoke two languages.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:39 PM   #479
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Once again, it's fairly common for someone to not be actively monitoring their bank account(s). Unless something bounces, it's pretty simple for there to be transactions that don't get noticed even by people with pretty modest means. Like you know all those commercials for products promising to unsubscribe you from all the stuff you forgot you subscribed to? Those exist for a reason...because people forget and don't notice the transactions. Yes, this has a few more zeroes attached, but if it's not draining the account, many people, even smart people won't pay attention.
Yes, but these are wire transfers. I'm not sure how you forge those.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:39 PM   #480
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Ohtani now being investigated by the FBI for gambling
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:40 PM   #481
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Someone needs to post a video of a celebrity throwing the first pitch in the series to lighten the mood here.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:41 PM   #482
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Seems like this is kind of a big story. Unless you look at the current MLB.com and ESPN sites...


Face of the Game potentially becoming the Farce of the Game? MLB will bury this as long as they can. But I guarantee the Dodgers FO is squeezing their cheeks so tight if you put a lump of coal between them you’d have a diamond in 10 minutes


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Old 03-21-2024, 02:42 PM   #483
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LOL, not the one I was thinking about, but that’s fantastic!

If you can find the one for the Korea series, you’ll be on my good list!
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:43 PM   #484
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This will get buried deeper than hades himself.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:46 PM   #485
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Fell free to explain it since you think you are so smart. There is the possibility that Ohtani violated a Federal law. Bauer violated a state law. Yes, his was domestic violence related and the players union gave up all semblance of any defense over this because of the outrage of that type of crime. Ohtani's has to do with gambling which is baseball's cardinal sin. Both should be investigated and held to the same standard by MLB. Anything else, it is not fair to the fans and not fair to the union membership, AKA the players.
It's clear that you don't understand the Bauer case, nor do you have any inclination to actually understand it. That's fine, as this isn't the thread for it, yet you bring it up.

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The focus is currently on Ippei Mizuhara and the bookie, not Ohtani, therefore MLB need not act or place Ohtani on administrative leave.

If/when the focus shifts to Ohtani, administrative leave seems like a certainty.
The Bauer situation directly involved Bauer, and there were multiple situations investigated by MLB that violated the DV policy.

The Ohtani situation involves a bookie and Ohtani's interpreter, and therefore Ohtani indirectly.

Clearly different.
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It's clear that you don't understand the Bauer case, nor do you have any inclination to actually understand it. That's fine, as this isn't the thread for it, yet you bring it up.

I'll quote what I've already said regarding Ohtani:


The Bauer situation directly involved Bauer, and there were multiple situations investigated by MLB that violated the DV policy.

The Ohtani situation involves a bookie and Ohtani's interpreter, and therefore Ohtani indirectly.

Clearly different.
It involves Ohtani's bank account. No matter how much everyone wants this swept under the rug, he's involved.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:49 PM   #487
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It's clear that you don't understand the Bauer case, nor do you have any inclination to actually understand it. That's fine, as this isn't the thread for it, yet you bring it up.

I'll quote what I've already said regarding Ohtani:


The Bauer situation directly involved Bauer, and there were multiple situations investigated by MLB that violated the DV policy.

The Ohtani situation involves a bookie and Ohtani's interpreter, and therefore Ohtani indirectly.

Clearly different.
Oh, you're going to keep the Dodgers/Ohtani lawyers cover story alive after the interpreter originally said Ohtani gave him the money?
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:51 PM   #488
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Not sure what you guys are looking at, but it’s right on the front page if you go to the baseball section on the ESPN app.

Some people are really desperate for conspiracies, huh?

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Old 03-21-2024, 02:52 PM   #490
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It involves Ohtani's bank account. No matter how much everyone wants this swept under the rug, he's involved.
This is why NO ONE should have a bank account.

Cash in mattress.

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Old 03-21-2024, 02:52 PM   #491
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You think he gambled on baseball and he will be suspended for life? I think this would be a bad outcome for both Ohtani and baseball.
I’m curious how the suspension thing works out, because they’re doing their best to bury the poop. I do believe he gambled and his boy is taking the heat.

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Ohtani had one that spoke two languages.
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Old 03-21-2024, 02:53 PM   #492
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This is why NO ONE should have a bank account.

Cash in mattress.

Debt paid via courier.
I keep it all at the PWCC Vault. What could possibly go wrong.
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:00 PM   #493
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Oh, you're going to keep the Dodgers/Ohtani lawyers cover story alive after the interpreter originally said Ohtani gave him the money?
I'm going to go with what we know, versus what we can speculate on.

You have no issue speculating on Ohtani, yet refused to do the same with Bauer. Perhaps you should hold both players to a single standard.
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:01 PM   #494
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He met the bookie at a poker tournament in 2021so he was only betting with him for 2 years at most
If the terp plays NL Hold'em, there are some big high stakes games in the local casinos with minimum buy-ins of 10k-100k. Then there are the underground private home games with 100k-500k stacks. If its only been 2 years, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the $4.5 million in losses were from poker, assuming he plays. Those home games are known be shady and it wouldn't surprise me if the bookie "invited" the terp to them. There were allegations of marked cards recently where a player lost $1 million in one night.
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:01 PM   #495
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These are the options as I see it

1. Ohtani was knowingly betting through Ippei with an illegal bookie on all sports including baseball
2. Ohtani was knowingly betting through Ippei with an illegal bookie on all sports but not baseball
3. Ohtani was knowingly betting, but didn't know Ippei was betting with an illegal bookie
4. Ohtani wasn't betting, but was bailing out Ippei and knew it was an illegal bookie
5. Ohtani wasn't betting, but was bailing out Ippei and didn't know it was an illegal bookie
6. Ohtani wasn't betting, and Ippei was stealing from him, falsifying wire transfers that the bank never checked with Othani on

Some people seem to be on 6, but that just seems absurd to me given the original interview. Right now I'm more on 2 or 3. I just don't see Ippei getting down 5M on his own and even if he did that's a huge issue for mlb as he's in meetings, he's in the clubhouse, he could easily be pressed for information etc.
7. Everything associated with the story is false. April Fools is actually celebrated on March 20th in Japan. Ohtani heard that people were saying BO was "ded" and he wanted to help spice things up a bit. Also, it's "Otani" (see- everything is false!).
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:02 PM   #496
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They didn't suspend a single Astro for the cheating scandal even though Altuve was wearing a wired device on camera. This will get swept under the rug. Baseball doesn't want the heat. The players association doesn't want the heat. The gambling industry doesn't want the heat. This shouldn't go away, but it will.
Astros didn't break any law. Astros didn't break any MLB rule. Altuve wearing a wired device is still hearsay and was never corroborated by one deposition. The franchise was still penalized.

I'm actually surprised this whole Ohtani stuff wasn't pinned on the Astros either.
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Same source that said that Ohtani's new wife's family has ties to the Yakuza
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This should be easy to prove, and a potential smoking gun ~ unless there’s a coordinated coverup to make this not easy to prove…..
That's assuming the feds investigate all of his transactions. If the bookie is their target, and he has potentially thousands of clients, there's no guarantee they're going after the clients.
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:04 PM   #499
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But yeah, Ohtani is going to be paying hundreds of millions in state taxes the next few decades. He's not going to jail and MLB isn't going to suspend let alone ban him.
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Old 03-21-2024, 03:12 PM   #500
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Anybody know when the Topps NOW card for this is coming out?
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