Seattle Mariners Thread

[jraarmy]

Wow!!!!

[JLChinn]

these outs are getting harder and harder....

[Verufian]

Good game plan for the Jays. Swing at everything as hard as you can

[JLChinn]

LeBron James Paxton

[crtsports]

Amazing performance. The Maple Grove will be insane going forward.

[pgisback]

Amazing!! Congrats James!

[jraarmy]

MOJO is rising!!

[Verufian]

What a game!

[ucLAkers]

Congrats!

[jason122883]

Haha.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Paxton-Auto-2012-Bowman-Chrome-Gold-Refractor-12-50/253611338530?hash=item3b0c69eb22:g:QUwAAOSwyi1a8k5F

[fritzfreddie]

What a great moment for him to have, congrats James!

[jason122883]

https://twitter.com/TitanicBaseball/status/994031799826345984/video/1

[AnthonyCorona]

Haha.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/James-Paxton-Auto-2012-Bowman-Chrome-Gold-Refractor-12-50/253611338530?hash=item3b0c69eb22:g:QUwAAOSwyi1a8k5FCan't lie, during the ninth I went searching for any Paxton I had to list

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[jason122883]

Can't lie, during the ninth I went searching for any Paxton I had to list

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Funny is I listed some after his performance last week. They ended during the game. I think I still have 1-2 left.

I understand selling now. Makes the most sense. But there was a gold listed for $250, then this masterpiece showed up

[AnthonyCorona]

Funny is I listed some after his performance last week. They ended during the game. I think I still have 1-2 left.

I understand selling now. Makes the most sense. But there was a gold listed for $250, then this masterpiece showed upOh yeah, this guy is loco

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[billbanning]

416080This just made me realize I need to up my Paxton game. That and I’m still upset with my Gold grade. On the upside, I found a blue that I had forgotten about!

[pgisback]

416080This just made me realize I need to up my Paxton game. That and I’m still upset with my Gold grade. On the upside, I found a blue that I had forgotten about!

Super awesome stuff!! Paxton’s big time!

[pgisback]

Great start for the Ms! Dee is so fast. Such an asset when he gets on base even if it’s lucky

[billbanning]

Super awesome stuff!! Paxton’s big time!

I needed to get that Heritage Chrome signed by Taijuan but they traded him before I could.

[LVDan]

Can't lie, during the ninth I went searching for any Paxton I had to list

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Same here, no BC autos but listed a bunch of 2014 rc stuff on 1 days...we'll see how that goes. Hoping to find 2 more Topps black RCs in my mailbox when I get home too!


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[billbanning]

Same here, no BC autos but listed a bunch of 2014 rc stuff on 1 days...we'll see how that goes. Hoping to find 2 more Topps black RCs in my mailbox when I get home too!


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Are you the one who posted the 12 Bowman Platinum /25?

[LVDan]

Nope. Just some TC,BC, and Topps parallels


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[pgisback]

Nelli twice with Segura on third and only one out. Gotta get him home at least once

[pgisback]

Starting to lose faith in Nicasio

[pgisback]

Get this bum out of there. Good lord

[jason122883]

Might be time to find a new 8th inning guy. He's been rough lately

[crtsports]

Might be time to find a new 8th inning guy. He's been rough lately

You mean our prized free agent signing? :doh:

[pgisback]

Might be time to find a new 8th inning guy. He's been rough lately

He's given up 12 hits and 6 runs in his last 4 outings which was only 3 1/3 inning. Sad.

[jason122883]

Ben has been putting together some solid ABs

[pgisback]

Ben has been putting together some solid ABs

He's starting to kind of resemble the point last year when he was batting .320. Was a very tough out.

[pgisback]

SEAGER BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grand Salami style!

[REGGIE206]

Grand Slam!! :)!

[pgisback]

Leake needs to use this lead to get confidence and work on his game. He’s been pretty bad this year. Seems to throw such meatballs that get crushed like that Martin shot.

[SoftMuscle]

Leake needs to use this lead to get confidence and work on his game. He’s been pretty bad this year. Seems to throw such meatballs that get crushed like that Martin shot.

Yeah too many getting too much of the plate. He also needs to keep that sinker down. But I think he'll be fine as the season progresses.

[jason122883]

This guy has an Edwin Gold at a really good price. It's a really strong 9. I already have a 9.5/10

So posting this for one of you guys if you want it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Edwin-Diaz-2014-Bowman-Chrome-Gold-Refractor-Auto-46-50-BGS-9-10/292520652058?hash=item441b96ed1a:g:3VQAAOSwHllaztw1

[jason122883]

Time for Scrabble to go bye bye

[billbanning]

DiPoto has swung and miss on our last two “big free agent signings”. Rzepczynski and Nicasio have been garbage, especially considering the size of their contracts. Maybe Pazos can move up a spot in the bullpen pecking order.

[jason122883]

DiPoto has swung and miss on our last two “big free agent signings”. Rzepczynski and Nicasio have been garbage, especially considering the size of their contracts. Maybe Pazos can move up a spot in the bullpen pecking order.

I do think Pazos has taken over. I think that's probably why he went to Scrabble in a game with such a lead

[billbanning]

I do think Pazos has taken over. I think that's probably why he went to Scrabble in a game with such a lead

I just wish Pazos would keep the mustache next time he grows it.

[jason122883]

I just wish Pazos would keep the mustache next time he grows it.

Haha, it is pretty awesome

[jason122883]

Double headers are fun

[jason122883]

Manny Acta can go now

[pgisback]

No challenge?

[rcmb3220]

No challenge?

That was dumb.

[jason122883]

Is there some crazy penalty or beating you get for getting a challenge wrong? I mean, I think the call would have been overturned. 0 reason for you to not at least look at it

[jason122883]

"Manny Acta says there was miscommunication on whether to challenge the play at the plate"

Literally the reason they lost this game. Just hope at the end of the season they don't miss out on the playoffs by 1 game

[jason122883]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nhkqfm5cwfev2d/20180512_154955.jpg?dl=0

[pgisback]

"Manny Acta says there was miscommunication on whether to challenge the play at the plate"

Literally the reason they lost this game. Just hope at the end of the season they don't miss out on the playoffs by 1 game

That's pathetic. For such a huge play if there is a miscommunication it is much better to just challenge it and look dumb for challenging an out than lose a game. These games definitely add up. Especially with how tight the race is going to be this year.

[jraarmy]

No excuse should've challenged. Like jason said I sure hope we don't miss the playoffs by one game. Unreal.

[jason122883]

LOL. Another big miss by the Umpires. This is a joke

[pgisback]

Felix is rough to watch. When people hit him, they are crushing the ball.

[jason122883]

Felix is rough to watch. When people hit him, they are crushing the ball.

Sadly he's just not good anymore. I mean, he's even rough for a back end of the rotation type guy. His decline has been steep. I always figured he would keep adjusting, and still be solid into his mid 30s. At this rate, he won't be in the game in a couple years

[pgisback]

Healy baby!!! Dude is crushing. Becoming one of our best hitters.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Sadly he's just not good anymore. I mean, he's even rough for a back end of the rotation type guy. His decline has been steep. I always figured he would keep adjusting, and still be solid into his mid 30s. At this rate, he won't be in the game in a couple years

He insists on throwing his sinker and throwing it often, even though it's been getting crushed for a couple years now. If he stopped throwing that one pitch he could probably be an average pitcher again.

[pgisback]

Robbiiieeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

[pgisback]

He insists on throwing his sinker and throwing it often, even though it's been getting crushed for a couple years now. If he stopped throwing that one pitch he could probably be an average pitcher again.

Yep, has very little movement, over the plate, just hangs there making for BP style contact.

[jason122883]

I love Cano's HR swing

[jason122883]

I was a bit concerned that Felix was gonna go a game without giving up a HR

[pgisback]

What is Haniger doing. Play with a little urgency. That is way too lazy.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Haniger you effing idiot

[jason122883]

Haniger is probably our best player, but I'd bench him after that

[fritzfreddie]

Should charge him with an error for that crap

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Haniger is probably our best player, but I'd bench him after that

That was the first thing I thought. But the drop off from him to Heredia is huge.

[jason122883]

That was the first thing I thought. But the drop off from him to Heredia is huge.

He is better than Heredia, but Heredia is actually better than we give him credit for. 2nd on the team in OPS.

Still gotta make a point though.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

He is better than Heredia, but Heredia is actually better than we give him credit for. 2nd on the team in OPS.

Still gotta make a point though.

I like Heredia's defense, but he's not much of a hitter IMO. His current numbers are based on a really small sample size and should regress back to the mean with more PAs. I hope I'm wrong though.

That said, there is never an excuse to play Gamel over Heredia.

[jason122883]

I like Heredia's defense, but he's not much of a hitter IMO. His current numbers are based on a really small sample size and should regress back to the mean with more PAs. I hope I'm wrong though.

That said, there is never an excuse to play Gamel over Heredia.

Heredia is our best defender. I know it is not a ton of plate appearances, but he does have a nice OBP. Probably our most patient hitter. I'm more for making the point that you can't do what Mitch did. Sitting for a few innings to finish out the game would get the point across

[pgisback]

I'm all for Pazos being the 8th inning guy. Feel way more comfortable when he is brought in the game than Nicasio.

[billbanning]

I'm all for Pazos being the 8th inning guy. Feel way more comfortable when he is brought in the game than Nicasio.

Agreed. I think Acta went to him so early is because he has been so effective lately. I’d also like to see if he can stretch out and work a few multi inning outings, especially in a game like this. But with how many pitches he threw last inning, he probably won’t.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Heredia is our best defender. I know it is not a ton of plate appearances, but he does have a nice OBP. Probably our most patient hitter. I'm more for making the point that you can't do what Mitch did. Sitting for a few innings to finish out the game would get the point across

Oh I agree with you. I would have liked to have seen it too, I was just giving a reason for why I didn't think it would happen.

[jason122883]

Whoa Nellie

[pgisback]

Agreed. I think Acta went to him so early is because he has been so effective lately. I’d also like to see if he can stretch out and work a few multi inning outings, especially in a game like this. But with how many pitches he threw last inning, he probably won’t.

Yea, Scott is too by the book. When you have a guy like Pazos who's in the zone give him a chance to give you an extra couple batters. Pazos will dominate 3 batters, then
he'll bring in Zep to give up a hit, haha.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Just a guess, but I think within the next few years the specialization of relievers will go away. We already see it in the playoffs -- the best pitchers come in in the highest leverage situations because the managers are doing everything they can to win. At some point that has to cross over to the regular season.

[pgisback]

Probably nit-picking too much, but I don't understand why you bunt Segura early in the game with a guy who can steal the base himself on first with no outs. Seems really stupid to me.

[pgisback]

Crap, hope robbie is ok. No broken bones.

[jason122883]

Crap, hope robbie is ok. No broken bones.

I hope they are pulling him only as a precaution

[Verufian]

Ugh....that’s really not good

[pgisback]

Dee is the man!!

[Jaypers]

Fractured fifth metacarpal on Cano's right hand. :(

[pgisback]

Fractured fifth metacarpal on Cano's right hand. :(

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :mad:

[jason122883]

Dammit!

Well, Gordon Beckham has been doing great in Tacoma, and has an opt out clause coming up this Tuesday if still in the minors. So I have to assume he will be our new 2nd baseman

[texmcpherson]

Fractured fifth metacarpal on Cano's right hand. :(

I literally just traded for Cano in fantasy.

Sucks, looked pretty painful

[pgisback]

Segura baby!!!! Let's goooooo!!

[jason122883]

Most of Romine's ABs remind me of what I would probably look like trying to hit major league pitching.

Obviously he is hitting about 192 points higher than I would be.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Beckham can't be an option, IMO. Maybe if it was just a few games, but for 6-8 weeks I think they need to look for better options. Beckham may be doing well in Tacoma but he's really not a major league player at this point. If he were, he would already be on the roster.

[jason122883]

Beckham can't be an option, IMO. Maybe if it was just a few games, but for 6-8 weeks I think they need to look for better options. Beckham may be doing well in Tacoma but he's really not a major league player at this point. If he were, he would already be on the roster.

Well, there really aren't a bunch of Robinson Cano's just sitting around looking for work. Beckham had a good spring, has been really good in Tacoma, at what point do you see if he is capable of playing at the major league level? I mean, we use Romine. He's brutal. I think Gordon should be option #1 at this point, considering the opt out and all. You don't have to stick with him for the whole time, but give him a shot.

I would assume the next options would be

Move Healy to 2nd, Vogelbach at 1st

Move Gordon back to 2nd, slide Heredia to CF. Use Werth as a backup OF. But he has looked really bad at Tacoma


Like I said, Beckham is the option I would like to see first. He has had great plate discipline down in Tacoma. I'd like to see if he could be serviceable

[pgisback]

Nicasio is so awful. Just brutal

[pgisback]

Get him outta here. Just wasting games

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Well, there really aren't a bunch of Robinson Cano's just sitting around looking for work. Beckham had a good spring, has been really good in Tacoma, at what point do you see if he is capable of playing at the major league level? I mean, we use Romine. He's brutal. I think Gordon should be option #1 at this point, considering the opt out and all. You don't have to stick with him for the whole time, but give him a shot.

I would assume the next options would be

Move Healy to 2nd, Vogelbach at 1st

Move Gordon back to 2nd, slide Heredia to CF. Use Werth as a backup OF. But he has looked really bad at Tacoma


Like I said, Beckham is the option I would like to see first. He has had great plate discipline down in Tacoma. I'd like to see if he could be serviceable

Romine is better than Beckham. So is Motter. They both suck, but they are both better than Beckham.

Man, am I the only one who remembers how overmatched he was last year when he got called up? His defense may be passable, but he can't hit MLB pitching... Like, at all. Just no bat speed at all anymore. Spring stats don't mean much because you're facing a bunch of guys who won't even make rosters.

But anyway, what I think they SHOULD do, but won't, is put Gordon at 2B. He's a GG there and is at least good as Cano, possibly better. Put Heredia in CF, you gain A LOT of value over Gordon there. I don't really care who the 4th OF is, but I don't have any interest in Werth. Like Beckham, he's a washed up older guy that doesn't really have a future. Plus he's a horrible defender. IF Miller is ready, and by all accounts he is at least very close, I would bring him up.

[jason122883]

Romine is better than Beckham. So is Motter. They both suck, but they are both better than Beckham.

Man, am I the only one who remembers how overmatched he was last year when he got called up? His defense may be passable, but he can't hit MLB pitching... Like, at all. Just no bat speed at all anymore. Spring stats don't mean much because you're facing a bunch of guys who won't even make rosters.

But anyway, what I think they SHOULD do, but won't, is put Gordon at 2B. He's a GG there and is at least good as Cano, possibly better. Put Heredia in CF, you gain A LOT of value over Gordon there. I don't really care who the 4th OF is, but I don't have any interest in Werth. Like Beckham, he's a washed up older guy that doesn't really have a future. Plus he's a horrible defender. IF Miller is ready, and by all accounts he is at least very close, I would bring him up.


Romine is a year older than Beckham with worse career stats. I like Ian Miller. No way I bring him up to be a 4th OFer here, while he can continue to play everyday in Tacoma. I'd rather bring up someone like a Werth(probably not him) that is not part of the future plans, nor needs many ABs if we were going that route

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Romine is a year older than Beckham with worse career stats. I like Ian Miller. No way I bring him up to be a 4th OFer here, while he can continue to play everyday in Tacoma. I'd rather bring up someone like a Werth(probably not him) that is not part of the future plans, nor needs many ABs if we were going that route

My bad if it sounded like I like Romine. I certainly don't. I would still take him over Beckham right now though. He has more defensive versatility and more speed. I don't think either can hit, so I guess I feel like he "sucks less." I'm probably also biased because Beckham was one of the highest-rated prospects coming up, which means he's also one of the biggest busts.

I can see not wanting to stunt Miller's growth. I just don't know how much damage it would do to ask him to start a handful of games. But like I said, I would only call him up if they think he could handle it. Werth would be a HUGE defensive liability.

I think what it boils down to is I'm sick of this org making bad decisions. And it feels like they looooove washed up older guys with nothing left. I feel like Beckham and Werth are just Eric Byrnes 2.0.

[jason122883]

My bad if it sounded like I like Romine. I certainly don't. I would still take him over Beckham right now though. He has more defensive versatility and more speed. I don't think either can hit, so I guess I feel like he "sucks less." I'm probably also biased because Beckham was one of the highest-rated prospects coming up, which means he's also one of the biggest busts.

I can see not wanting to stunt Miller's growth. I just don't know how much damage it would do to ask him to start a handful of games. But like I said, I would only call him up if they think he could handle it. Werth would be a HUGE defensive liability.

I think what it boils down to is I'm sick of this org making bad decisions. And it feels like they looooove washed up older guys with nothing left. I feel like Beckham and Werth are just Eric Byrnes 2.0.

Oh no, I get your point of view for sure. I really dislike what Romine offers. I mean, he is solid on defense, but is terrible at the plate. I would personally rather have Motter. I just wanna see what we would get with Beckham. The talent was there at one point. He's still only 31. I am not expecting him to be Cano, but if somehow he could come up and be a .270 guy, I'd be ok. If he had a bad first week, we move on and go elsewhere

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Oh no, I get your point of view for sure. I really dislike what Romine offers. I mean, he is solid on defense, but is terrible at the plate. I would personally rather have Motter. I just wanna see what we would get with Beckham. The talent was there at one point. He's still only 31. I am not expecting him to be Cano, but if somehow he could come up and be a .270 guy, I'd be ok. If he had a bad first week, we move on and go elsewhere

Fair enough. I guess when the other option is Andrew Romine, it certainly doesn't hurt to give Beckham another shot. Ha. Man, losing Cano is gonna hurt.

[trixstar]

http://media4.giphy.com/media/12XMGIWtrHBl5e/200.gif

[jason122883]

Looks like it is Beckham. Hopefully some of that AAA success translate to ML. This has got to be his last shot

[pgisback]

Looks like it is Beckham. Hopefully some of that AAA success translate to ML. This has got to be his last shot

Nice! Batting 9th. The way Z and Gamel are batting, eesh. I hope he can hit. I have more faith in Z to pick it up than Gamel. My Gamel hope is fading by the day. Scott pretty much refuses to use him against lefties at this point.

[jason122883]

Nice! Batting 9th. The way Z and Gamel are batting, eesh. I hope he can hit. I have more faith in Z to pick it up than Gamel. My Gamel hope is fading by the day. Scott pretty much refuses to use him against lefties at this point.

Heredia has been much better than Gamel. Yes Servais pulls Heredia first chance he gets for Gamel. Gamel has put together some late clutch plate appearances though. Drawing some tough walks. He should be the 4th OF at this point, but they are sticking him in there a lot still.

Zunino is hitting for power. Strikeouts have started to rise again though, would love to see him cut that back down. Hasn't been back long yet, so he could get back to where he was last year.

As far as Beckham, I am just hoping to keeps up the good eye at the plate. Looked good at AAA. No way he is replacing Cano, that's impossible. Just please be better than Romine :)

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Nice! Batting 9th. The way Z and Gamel are batting, eesh. I hope he can hit. I have more faith in Z to pick it up than Gamel. My Gamel hope is fading by the day. Scott pretty much refuses to use him against lefties at this point.

I think they're always going to platoon Gamel and Heredia. Heredia is really solid against lefties, but not very good against righties. So it makes sense to play Heredia whenever a lefty is on the mound.

On defense, Heredia is much better than Gamel so I would like to see him play more overall, but I don't think that will happen.

[pgisback]

3 lead off doubles. Zero runs. Smh

[pgisback]

Leblanc giving them 6 innings, no runs. Can’t ask for much more than that!! Nice work

[WhyMarinersWhy]

At least they got got Odorizzi out of there. They've had some bad luck in that they've faced a lot of really good pitchers lately.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

They have Segura bunt but not Beckham? Unreal. Take a few more days off Servais.

[pgisback]

Vincent in the 8th!! Finally

[crtsports]

Vincent in the 8th!! Finally

about time

[pgisback]

about time

Sugar!! Would love to see the Pazos/Vincent/Sugar trio more often

[crtsports]

Sugar!! Would love to see the Pazos/Vincent/Sugar trio more often

Diaz with another great save!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Great job by the pitchers tonight.

[crtsports]

Great job by the pitchers tonight.

Thanks to LoMo for one again winning a game for us!

[Devi8or]

Whelp, Cano get popped for substance.....80 games and ineligible for the playoffs if they were to make it. What do we do going forward a the 2B position this season?

He's eligible to return in August, but if they make the playoffs who goes into that spot? Do we slide Dee back into 2B and look for an OF'er? Do we look for another 2B? Do we really have to rely on Beckham and Motter for the rest of the year?

Such a tough choice, personally as much as I would hate to take away CF experience from Gordon, I would move him back to 2B until Cano comes back and then hopefully again for the playoffs while looking for a new OF'er. I'm not positive, but I would guess finding a quality OF'er is easier than a 2B?

Hell they could put Dee at 2B right now and start Gamel in LF and Heredia in CF, although not ideally for the whole season lol

[SoftMuscle]

Whelp, Cano get popped for substance.....80 games and ineligible for the playoffs if they were to make it. What do we do going forward a the 2B position this season?

He's eligible to return in August, but if they make the playoffs who goes into that spot? Do we slide Dee back into 2B and look for an OF'er? Do we look for another 2B? Do we really have to rely on Beckham and Motter for the rest of the year?

Such a tough choice, personally as much as I would hate to take away CF experience from Gordon, I would move him back to 2B until Cano comes back and then hopefully again for the playoffs while looking for a new OF'er. I'm not positive, but I would guess finding a quality OF'er is easier than a 2B?

Hell they could put Dee at 2B right now and start Gamel in LF and Heredia in CF, although not ideally for the whole season lol

Yeah I agree, think you gotta put Gordon back into 2nd. He's proven there and Heredia can play center for the time being.

[jason122883]

Yes. Now that this has popped, I would be ok using Gordon at 2B again. I initially didn't want to if only for 4-6 weeks.

IF we get to keep Robbie's salary lost(12 million) I'd look into trading for Starlin Castro

[Devi8or]

Yes. Now that this has popped, I would be ok using Gordon at 2B again. I initially didn't want to if only for 4-6 weeks.

IF we get to keep Robbie's salary lost(12 million) I'd look into trading for Starlin Castro

That's what I was thinking too, but since he's not playoff eligible, I say throw Dee back in there....that's assuming we make the playoffs at this point....certainly doesn't help

[WhyMarinersWhy]

I would like them to move Gordon back to 2B, but I doubt it will happen. In his interview yesterday Servais made it sound like they gave a little thought to moving Gordon over there after Robbie got hurt, but not much. He said Dee is their CF and the most important thing for him is consistency. It would be hard to walk back comments like that, IMO. Cano is out for 80 games now, but there was a very real chance he was going to be out for 50 or more when he got hurt.

[pgisback]

Sad day!

[Devi8or]

I would like them to move Gordon back to 2B, but I doubt it will happen. In his interview yesterday Servais made it sound like they gave a little thought to moving Gordon over there after Robbie got hurt, but not much. He said Dee is their CF and the most important thing for him is consistency. It would be hard to walk back comments like that, IMO. Cano is out for 80 games now, but there was a very real chance he was going to be out for 50 or more when he got hurt.

yeah it's tough to walk back comments like that, I think they could have worked with it for the DL stint. Now with him missing that and postseason, I don't think there is a better option unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat at the trade deadline. Gordon back to 2B makes the most sense, we can't live with Beckham/Romine/Motter in there.....just not sustainable. I would imagine it's easier to find an OF'er than it is a decent 2B....who knows

Trader Jerry has his work cut out for him now

Also, your screen name couldn't be any more appropriate at this time

[WhyMarinersWhy]

yeah it's tough to walk back comments like that, I think they could have worked with it for the DL stint. Now with him missing that and postseason, I don't think there is a better option unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat at the trade deadline. Gordon back to 2B makes the most sense, we can't live with Beckham/Romine/Motter in there.....just not sustainable. I would imagine it's easier to find an OF'er than it is a decent 2B....who knows

Trader Jerry has his work cut out for him now

Also, your screen name couldn't be any more appropriate at this time

Agreed. I would much rather see Dee at 2B and try to pick up an OF instead of the other way around. Besides, we would gain defensive value by moving him out of CF and replacing him with Heredia. Either way I think they need to do something. You just can't throw Beckham out there and hope for the best anymore.

And yes, my screenname is almost always appropriate! :doh:

[Devi8or]

There it is, Dipoto says they are gonna begin transitioning Dee to second base

In wake of Cano news, Dipoto says Dee Gordon will get time at second base.
Will give him time to readjust.

[Devi8or]

Yes. Now that this has popped, I would be ok using Gordon at 2B again. I initially didn't want to if only for 4-6 weeks.

IF we get to keep Robbie's salary lost(12 million) I'd look into trading for Starlin Castro

Just saw this on Twitter

Dipoto says that they CAN use the $ that Cano is not being paid for other roster moves.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Well, on one hand I'm glad they are putting Dee back at 2B, but on the other hand it makes me realize the "consistency" line was a bunch of BS. I've always liked the team, but it's been years since I've had much respect for the org itself.

[Devi8or]

This isn't a good look

Cano hadn’t told anyone with the Mariners about the positive test. Front office found out about it yesterday. Servais and the players found out today.

[Verufian]

Just saw this on Twitter

Dipoto says that they CAN use the $ that Cano is not being paid for other roster moves.

Brandon Phillips perhaps?

[pgisback]

Get manny machado, move segura to 2nd and dee back to Cf.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

We have him for 5 more years AFTER this season. Don't get me wrong, he's still a very good player, but that contract is going to be an albatross and a half.

[pgisback]

Cruz’s inability to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs is ridiculous

[jason122883]

Cruz’s inability to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs is ridiculous

Even worse considering he stared at 2 hanging meatballs

[ucLAkers]

Strange how a guy that already served 80 is going to replace a guy getting ready to serve 80? Is this a baseball first?

[jason122883]

Mike Leake is garbage

[crtsports]

Maybe we can trade for Tyler O'Neill and then move Dee to 2nd. :)!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Mike Leake is garbage

I was joking with a buddy today that Cano getting suspended will be a Godsend for the org. Now if/when they don't make the playoffs they can blame it on Cano instead of them not addressing the rotation. It's basically Paxton, who is an ace, and then a bunch of 4 or 5 guys.

[jason122883]

I was joking with a buddy today that Cano getting suspended will be a Godsend for the org. Now if/when they don't make the playoffs they can blame it on Cano instead of them not addressing the rotation. It's basically Paxton, who is an ace, and then a bunch of 4 or 5 guys.

Only Seattle would do that. But sadly, I believe you may be right. They did screw up by going for nothing to add to the rotation. Paxton is great. Everyone else is a 4 at best. The way some of these guys have looked, they probably shouldn't even be in a ML rotation

[SoftMuscle]

Mike Leake is garbage

Yeah not sure what is up with him. He pitched well last season after coming over, but just can't seem to locate pitches for whatever reason.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Only Seattle would do that. But sadly, I believe you may be right. They did screw up by going for nothing to add to the rotation. Paxton is great. Everyone else is a 4 at best. The way some of these guys have looked, they probably shouldn't even be in a ML rotation

Yeah, I mean I realize they don't have unlimited funds, but the rotation was the most glaring weakness. Definitely odd that they didn't address it.

[jason122883]

Yeah, I mean I realize they don't have unlimited funds, but the rotation was the most glaring weakness. Definitely odd that they didn't address it.

I think they were expecting Felix to at least be a solid 2-3 guy. Leake continue what he was doing last year, and Marco improving a bit. I guess I kinda see it, but it all backfired

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Yeah not sure what is up with him. He pitched well last season after coming over, but just can't seem to locate pitches for whatever reason.

I think Leake overachieved a bit last year. He was basically a #4 in St. Louis. I have a buddy who is a huge Cards fan and he was happy to see him go. He was also happy to see Gonzalez go....

[WhyMarinersWhy]

With Cano out the bottom of the order is baaaaaaad

[jason122883]

With Cano out the bottom of the order is baaaaaaad

Zunino looks broken again.

Jerry loves offense, and loves trading. With that extra 12 million, I assume we will see another deal.

If there were ever a year for this to happen, this is the year for it. 1-6 is really nice

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Zunino looks broken again.

Jerry loves offense, and loves trading. With that extra 12 million, I assume we will see another deal.

If there were ever a year for this to happen, this is the year for it. 1-6 is really nice

Yeah, Z is definitely struggling. I think his defense and game calling will always be his strengths, not his offense. But it WOULD be nice if he could channel last year again.

[pgisback]

Can they stop hitting our batters!!

[jason122883]

Baseball sucks

[crtsports]

Baseball sucks

The life of a Mariners fan is really tough today.

[pgisback]

It would only be fitting on this day that we blow a 6-3 lead. Leake is awful. Throws such fat meatballs.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Well done, Servais.

[pgisback]

Nicasio sucks. Get rid of that bum

[jason122883]

Nicasio giving up runs. Didn't see that coming

[jason122883]

I am starting to get on the "Fire Servais" wagon

[pgisback]

I am starting to get on the "Fire Servais" wagon

Right there with you. Just kind of know what we’re getting with Servais by now.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Yeah, I'm leaning toward dumping Servais as well. No ability to manage a bullpen and no ability to adjust, even when the facts are right in his face. Just because you WANT Nicasio to be the 8th inning guy doesn't mean you should keep running him out there. Servais costs this team too many games.

And this doesn't even factor in him leaving Leake out there to implode.

[jason122883]

0 clue how to handle any pitching. Seems like he rarely makes the right move.

Then his obsession with lefty/righty matchups. Heredia could be 11 for 12 off of a righty. He would immediately put in Gamel just because of the matchup. Just hasn't gotten beyond mediocre as a manager

[jason122883]

Beckham doing his job tonight

[pgisback]

0 clue how to handle any pitching. Seems like he rarely makes the right move.

Then his obsession with lefty/righty matchups. Heredia could be 11 for 12 off of a righty. He would immediately put in Gamel just because of the matchup. Just hasn't gotten beyond mediocre as a manager

His lefty/righty obsession is one of the most annoying things I’ve seen.

[crtsports]

Keep fighting to the end!

[pgisback]

Bats bailing him out today! Nice job segura

[jason122883]

Jean!

Please give us last night's Diaz

[jason122883]

Segura is playing out of his mind right now

[pgisback]

Gamel looked horrible that at bat

[jason122883]

Gamel looked horrible that at bat

Unfortunately that is more often than not

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Hope not scoring there doesn't come back to bite them.

[pgisback]

Diaz forgot about the runner

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Haha... I'm done watching. Diaz couldn't put anyone away tonight.

[jason122883]

Was a pretty questionable pitch 0-2 to Gallo. Literally fast ball right down the middle. The one thing Gallo can hit

[pgisback]

Was a pretty questionable pitch 0-2 to Gallo. Literally fast ball right down the middle. The one thing Gallo can hit

Said the same thing to my roommate. Why not throw another slider out of the zone. Gallo would swing at anything in that spot. And you throw the easier pitch for him.

[jason122883]

Said the same thing to my roommate. Why not throw another slider out of the zone. Gallo would swing at anything in that spot. And you throw the easier pitch for him.

That. Bury something in the dirt. High fastball. Literally anything but the pitch he threw

[pgisback]

Sooooooooo close

[jason122883]

Please Gamel

[jason122883]

I love Heredia

[SoftMuscle]

I love Heredia

I got worried he was going to strike out on those outside pitches. Good thing he didn't. :)!

[jason122883]

I got worried he was going to strike out on those outside pitches. Good thing he didn't. :)!

For sure. He was amped up to win it. Was swinging at some junk. But that Umpire was not helping. Calling some real junk, strikes

[REGGIE206]

Yeah! Hard earned win! Go M’s! :)!

[pgisback]

Big Sexy time!! Hope Mariners bats explode on him. Lineup looks a lot less scary without the 3/4 punch in Cano and Nellie but I have faith Gamel and Z will start picking up.

[pgisback]

Who would have guessed, Christian Bergman vs Big Sexy would be a 1 hit 0-0 game through 4, ha.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Colon has always owned us. Although I guess in the last game we eventually got to him, but historically he's always shut us down.

[pgisback]

Gamel's back!!!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Haha... I don't know if he's back, but he's apparently the only one who can touch Colon.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Colon at 59 pitches after 5. He's going to throw a CG and we will probably lose 1-0 or 2-0.

[jason122883]

Colon at 59 pitches after 5. He's going to throw a CG and we will probably lose 1-0 or 2-0.

Nah. We will take this one 0-0 into the 9th and walk it off again

[pgisback]

I want to hang out with that chick who just chugged a beer with tons of grasshoppers in it, haha. Knows how to party.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Nah. We will take this one 0-0 into the 9th and walk it off again

If we can get to their BP I like our chances. The problem is Colon will probably still be pitching in the 9th.

[pgisback]

Wow, Bergman and Leblanc look great. Felix/Leake not so much.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Yeah, I'll have what Bergman's having. What a game.

[pgisback]

Yeah, I'll have what Bergman's having. What a game.

Yep, that was quite the game. Earn yourself another start pitching like that!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

At least it isn't Nicasio that's throwing the game away?

[jason122883]

Bergman isn't a part of the future plans. Bullpen is beyond taxed. Why did he come out after 7?

Pazos is probably our best reliever right now, so I am good with the player. Just think Bergman had at least another inning

[JLChinn]

Bergman isn't a part of the future plans. Bullpen is beyond taxed. Why did he come out after 7?

Pazos is probably our best reliever right now, so I am good with the player. Just think Bergman had at least another inning

i agree with you completely, but it's Servais we're talking about here... always the quick trigger

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Oh I like Pazos. Just being a smartass because I've had quite enough of seeing Nicasio out there in the 8th in high leverage situations.

My guess on Bregman is that either a) Servais doesn't have a lot of confidence in him, or b) they were worried about pitch count. I'm not sure what his typical count has been in the minors.

[pgisback]

Bergman isn't a part of the future plans. Bullpen is beyond taxed. Why did he come out after 7?

Pazos is probably our best reliever right now, so I am good with the player. Just think Bergman had at least another inning

Robot Scott is not programmed to care about results, rhythm or feel, haha.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Boo. That will probably do it. Although if we hold them to 1 I guess there is still a slight chance.

[pgisback]

I simply can't complain on this one. I've been asking for Pazos and Vincent for weeks now and he gives it to us and they blow it. Sorry Scott.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Yeah, I agree. The right guys were out there.

It's a shame the offense couldn't get anything going.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Good news is Colon might get lifted for the 9th due to his pitch count.

[pgisback]

I can't believe I'm excited to see Big Sexy step off the mound. Dude is incredible this year at his age.

[jason122883]

Can't even blame this bad outing on Scrabble. Healy error. Freitas is about as smart as a box of rocks

[SoftMuscle]

Yeah Freitas has to catch that. Cmon man

[Devi8or]

Zep did his job, Freitas blew that one twice

True to the Blue

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Well, crap, it wasn't 1-0 OR 2-0.

[JLChinn]

Where's Zuni at...? Ugh.

What a rough game... if we didn't win last night I would've thought this is the beginning of our downfall this season. Maybe that's just the chronic Mariners-itis I have in me.

[fritzfreddie]

I really dislike replay

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Crap, they have to face Boyd again? These guys can't catch a break.

[pgisback]

Big Z is strugggggling

[pgisback]

Ughhhh, if Seager and Healy make that play that would be 19 scoreless innings in a row between Leblanc, Bergman, and Marco. Can’t ask for much more than they’ve given.

[jason122883]

Gordon is good, no doubt. Needs to work on plate discipline though. That was ugly

[pgisback]

Killing me Nick

[jason122883]

Seager-Healy-Zunino

9 K’s

[pgisback]

With Cruz back, I like the lineup today. Gamel and Heredia should get a lot of playing time now.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

I think Houston is going to start pulling away soon, so we need to keep pace with Anaheim. And it would be nice if Jerry would spend some of that Cano money on pitching.

[jason122883]

I think Houston is going to start pulling away soon, so we need to keep pace with Anaheim. And it would be nice if Jerry would spend some of that Cano money on pitching.

From the way he talks, I think he is gonna spend it. I also think it will be on pitching.

[jraarmy]

Watching pre game. Dipota just said he expects a deal sooner rather than later

[crtsports]

Watching pre game. Dipota just said he expects a deal sooner rather than later

Bring back O'Neill. :)!

[pgisback]

Ughhhhhh, Felix

[crtsports]

Ughhhhhh, Felix

Its over.

[jason122883]

Too stubborn to realize what isn't working. Will be out of baseball in no time at this rate

[SoftMuscle]

Its over.

This just means he'll give us 5 more scoreless :)!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

So does Felix pitch in the majors next year?

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Dipoto said they had flexibility to get either a 2B or outfielder since Dee can play both. Soooo you're not going to address one of the worst rotations in baseball? Gee, I wonder why fans are fed up.

[pgisback]

That facial expression of Zunino with the mask crooked is classic Mariner face, ha

[pgisback]

Wow, can’t believe he got out of that. Huge. Still have a chance

[WhyMarinersWhy]

That facial expression of Zunino with the mask crooked is classic Mariner face, ha

Haha I thought the same thing. It's like when Lucy yanks the football away right as Charlie Brown tries to kick it.

[pgisback]

Haha I thought the same thing. It's like when Lucy yanks the football away right as Charlie Brown tries to kick it.

Haha, that’s a great way to describe it

[pgisback]

Fulmer is dealing

[pgisback]

What is Healy doing

[Devi8or]

Zunino literally couldn't hit the broad side of a barn right now

[pgisback]

Thata baby Gamel!!!

[pgisback]

Jean is the man!!!! Let’s goooooooo

[jason122883]

Mittens!

[pgisback]

Sugar got away with one there

[SoftMuscle]

Sugar got away with one there

Yeah and also Zunino with the nice assist. As good as a throw you'll see all year. Great team rally/win tonight. Hope Paxton can shut them down tomorrow.

[jason122883]

Stop plunking our guys!

[pgisback]

Gamel!!!!! So glad to see him look like he belongs again!

[jason122883]

Gamel comin on big. Dee Gordon has been brutal with a bat

[jason122883]

Get that cycle tonight, Jean!

[WhyMarinersWhy]

If anyone knows the backstory on the the thumbs up every time they get a hit I'd appreciate it. Not their best work, IMO.

[pgisback]

Mittens with the incredible grab!! And yea, can’t stand the thumbs up thing. I see multiple teams doing it now

[jason122883]

Fans coulda helped him out a bit on that fall though

[WhyMarinersWhy]

They could have done a lot more damage off of Fiers. 3 runs probably isn't going to hold up tonight.

[jason122883]

They could have done a lot more damage off of Fiers. 3 runs probably isn't going to hold up tonight.

Too talented of a lineup to have this many slumping

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Haha how lucky was that? Ok, now they're putting up some runs.

[jason122883]

Haha how lucky was that? Ok, now they're putting up some runs.

I was just telling my buddy how ice cold he has been. That he is extremely hard to double up, but he would find a way to GIDP with the way he has been playing. Sure enough, he did. Luckily the pitcher screwed it up

[jason122883]

Good on Servais letting him go the distance

[pgisback]

Good on Servais letting him go the distance

Absolutely shocked! Haha.

[WhyMarinersWhy]

With all the uncertainty in the rotation, I really want to see them extend Paxton long-term. If he can stay healthy he will be an ace for years.

[jason122883]

Yeah, I'd love to have Paxton. Don't see it happening though. Boras client

On the plus side, we're in the 2nd WC as of right now

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Yeah, I'd love to have Paxton. Don't see it happening though. Boras client

On the plus side, we're in the 2nd WC as of right now

True, but it's ultimately up to Paxton where he plays. As a BC kid I think playing in Seattle is a big deal for him. His family is fairly close and he seems to enjoy Seattle. Don't get me wrong, he will definitely get paid, but I don't think he's a guy who is just looking to go the highest bidder. Obviously just my opinion though.

[pgisback]

Are we really getting no hit by Liriano right now

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Are we really getting no hit by Liriano right now

Liriano, like Colon, has always dominated us, so I'm not too surprised. Also, this is the last game of the homestand and the team has tomorrow off, so I don't think they really have their heads in the game. Oh, and then there's the fact that the lineup is horrendous today. If I was a betting man I would have taken the Tigers today without question.

[jason122883]

Liriano, like Colon, has always dominated us, so I'm not too surprised. Also, this is the last game of the homestand and the team has tomorrow off, so I don't think they really have their heads in the game. Oh, and then there's the fact that the lineup is horrendous today. If I was a betting man I would have taken the Tigers today without question.

Yeah. Servais emptied his bench of scrubs into the starting lineup today. Not sure why they all played on the same day

[pgisback]

Yeah. Servais emptied his bench of scrubs into the starting lineup today. Not sure why they all played on the same day

Especially with a day off tomorrow. No reason Gamel needed today off unless he's still stuck on that lefty thing. Even though Gamel has a higher batting average against lefties than righties. Not sure the logic in todays game. Rather waste a game against a really good team and pitcher instead of games we'll be regretting losing at the end of the season.

[pgisback]

Mittens!!!!!! Goat!

[JLChinn]

Haniger. What a pickup

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[jason122883]

Haha, I went and did some stuff, and didn't even watch the 9th

[pgisback]

What a game!! Never seen a team look so dead the last two games and end up winning!! That’s amazing

[WhyMarinersWhy]

Liriano, like Colon, has always dominated us, so I'm not too surprised. Also, this is the last game of the homestand and the team has tomorrow off, so I don't think they really have their heads in the game. Oh, and then there's the fact that the lineup is horrendous today. If I was a betting man I would have taken the Tigers today without question.

Looks like I would've lost money today! I was sorting through some cards and came back and the game was in the 11th. Missed the Hanny shot but saw Jean's walk-off.

In other news, Gordon is definitely hurt. I hope he only needs a few days off, but he may be looking at a DL stint.

[pgisback]

Now this is a sweeeet card. Haniger NT 1/1 Mariners Logo patch. If I were wealthier, I'd take a stab at that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-National-Treasures-Mitch-Haniger-True-RPA-1-1-Logo-Patch-RC-Auto-Mariners/232743388970?hash=item363096472a:g:0dEAAOSw~mpa3QE4